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BoRED S2upid

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20,982 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Last night I was pondering Evolution and if we as a species have stopped evolving, this was while I couldn't find a damn nail clipper to cut my nails with.

I presume our nails grow from when we evolved from Monkeys and came down from the trees, nails are obviously useful for climbing trees and ripping open food but how many thousands of years have we had eating implements and not needed nails?. They haven't stopped growing, likewise with women and hairy bits they all (or they should all) shave their legs and other bits so why haven't they evolved to not grow hair on these bits?.

I have lots of other unanswered questions that im sure PH's has the answers to.

metro lover

553 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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did you find the nail clippers?

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Shaving legs is artificial - it's not going to affect evolution at all.

metro lover

553 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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binned

Edited by Kinky on Friday 21st August 19:54

Chilli

17,320 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Thing is, if we evolved from Monkeys/Apes....how come we still have them?
Also, why did ****(insert who/whatever decided that evolution should exist) decided that as I got older, my nostrils and my ears would require extra insulation, yet the top of my head wouldn't?

deadmau5

3,197 posts

203 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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How would you scratch your balls if you didn't have nails?

ewenm

28,506 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
I presume our nails grow from when we evolved from Monkeys and came down from the trees, nails are obviously useful for climbing trees and ripping open food but how many thousands of years have we had eating implements and not needed nails?. They haven't stopped growing, likewise with women and hairy bits they all (or they should all) shave their legs and other bits so why haven't they evolved to not grow hair on these bits?.
There needs to be a benefit to a change before it will end up being selected for. And "benefit" in that sense means "more likely to pass on the genes". How is someone who doesn't have to cut their ails more likely to breed than others who do have to cut their nails. Only if nail-cutting was so abhorrent to us that a nail-cutter would never breed would the need to nail-cut have a chance of being evolved out.

Genetic diseases may become more prevalent as we become better at surviving them thanks to medical science, so we can pass on those genes.

Read some of Richard Dawkins work (The Blind Watchmaker for example).

Eric Mc

124,815 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Chilli said:
Thing is, if we evolved from Monkeys/Apes....how come we still have them?
Also, why did ****(insert who/whatever decided that evolution should exist) decided that as I got older, my nostrils and my ears would require extra insulation, yet the top of my head wouldn't?
ALL mammals have nails or claws - including humans. We haven't lost them because we are still far too close in time to our arboreal ancestors. Give another 10 million years or so (a blink in geological time) and they may disappear

And by the way, we didn't evolve from apes - we ARE apes - still.

ewenm

28,506 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Chilli said:
Thing is, if we evolved from Monkeys/Apes....how come we still have them?
We didn't. Humans and apes and monkeys all evolved from common ancestors which no longer exist.

BoRED S2upid

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20,982 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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ewenm said:
BoRED S2upid said:
I presume our nails grow from when we evolved from Monkeys and came down from the trees, nails are obviously useful for climbing trees and ripping open food but how many thousands of years have we had eating implements and not needed nails?. They haven't stopped growing, likewise with women and hairy bits they all (or they should all) shave their legs and other bits so why haven't they evolved to not grow hair on these bits?.
There needs to be a benefit to a change before it will end up being selected for. And "benefit" in that sense means "more likely to pass on the genes". How is someone who doesn't have to cut their ails more likely to breed than others who do have to cut their nails. Only if nail-cutting was so abhorrent to us that a nail-cutter would never breed would the need to nail-cut have a chance of being evolved out.

Genetic diseases may become more prevalent as we become better at surviving them thanks to medical science, so we can pass on those genes.

Read some of Richard Dawkins work (The Blind Watchmaker for example).
Ok then well a hairy ape like woman is very unlikely to breed a nice smooth one would!.

And no I didn't find the damn clippers had to bite them like a caveman!.

fathomfive

11,067 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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deadmau5 said:
How would you scratch your balls if you didn't have nails?
Or pick your nose?

ewenm

28,506 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
ewenm said:
BoRED S2upid said:
I presume our nails grow from when we evolved from Monkeys and came down from the trees, nails are obviously useful for climbing trees and ripping open food but how many thousands of years have we had eating implements and not needed nails?. They haven't stopped growing, likewise with women and hairy bits they all (or they should all) shave their legs and other bits so why haven't they evolved to not grow hair on these bits?.
There needs to be a benefit to a change before it will end up being selected for. And "benefit" in that sense means "more likely to pass on the genes". How is someone who doesn't have to cut their ails more likely to breed than others who do have to cut their nails. Only if nail-cutting was so abhorrent to us that a nail-cutter would never breed would the need to nail-cut have a chance of being evolved out.

Genetic diseases may become more prevalent as we become better at surviving them thanks to medical science, so we can pass on those genes.

Read some of Richard Dawkins work (The Blind Watchmaker for example).
Ok then well a hairy ape like woman is very unlikely to breed a nice smooth one would!.
Really? Just walk into your local town and you'll see lots of examples of "unattractive" people who have managed to breed...

gib6933

5,278 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Or eat pistachio nuts.
Or open a can of beer!

BoRED S2upid

Original Poster:

20,982 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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ewenm said:
BoRED S2upid said:
ewenm said:
BoRED S2upid said:
I presume our nails grow from when we evolved from Monkeys and came down from the trees, nails are obviously useful for climbing trees and ripping open food but how many thousands of years have we had eating implements and not needed nails?. They haven't stopped growing, likewise with women and hairy bits they all (or they should all) shave their legs and other bits so why haven't they evolved to not grow hair on these bits?.
There needs to be a benefit to a change before it will end up being selected for. And "benefit" in that sense means "more likely to pass on the genes". How is someone who doesn't have to cut their ails more likely to breed than others who do have to cut their nails. Only if nail-cutting was so abhorrent to us that a nail-cutter would never breed would the need to nail-cut have a chance of being evolved out.

Genetic diseases may become more prevalent as we become better at surviving them thanks to medical science, so we can pass on those genes.

Read some of Richard Dawkins work (The Blind Watchmaker for example).
Ok then well a hairy ape like woman is very unlikely to breed a nice smooth one would!.
Really? Just walk into your local town and you'll see lots of examples of "unattractive" people who have managed to breed...
What about midgets and dwarfs?.

MitchT

17,089 posts

232 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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deadmau5 said:
How would you scratch your balls if you didn't have nails?
+1 thumbuphehe

ewenm

28,506 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
What about midgets and dwarfs?.
What about them? I'm sure there are websites for that if you look for them wink

JudgeMental

7,251 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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fathomfive said:
deadmau5 said:
How would you scratch your balls if you didn't have nails?
Or pick your nose?
or wear nail varnish on your left hand

BrabusMog

21,416 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Eric Mc said:
And by the way, we didn't evolve from apes - we ARE apes - still.
Speak for yourself

Chilli

17,320 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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ewenm said:
Chilli said:
Thing is, if we evolved from Monkeys/Apes....how come we still have them?
We didn't. Humans and apes and monkeys all evolved from common ancestors which no longer exist.
Ah, that makes sense, cheers.

Halb

53,012 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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We haven't stopped evolving.

These pages are helpful, and if you like to read aboot religiousists trying to get into science, the wiki pages offer some of the best stuff...apart from utubebiggrin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolu...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_a...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evolution/FAQ