Any Vets on here? - Poorly dog
Any Vets on here? - Poorly dog
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Rollcage

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11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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My female GSD Ria has had a poorly tummy for nearly a week now. Started off with the runs and progressed to bouts of trying to go to the loo but passing very little other than water or VERY runny stools(Would hesitate to call them that even) .Took her to the vet on Wednesday ,as despite starving her for two days she was no better ,passing no solids and trying frequently to go.(every couple of minutes for 10 minutes ,then OK for hour or so ,then repeat)

Vet said she has stomach bug ,and gave her painkillers and presumably antibiotics by injection ,and a course of Diarsanyl oral paste (nearly gone) and Noroclav 250mg (2,twice a day).

She is still no better ,and eating very little but drinking as normal. (refusing her normal dry food and tinned meat ,refusing rice but eating fresh cooked meat OK ,but not overly interested)

She is passing mostly reddish/brown water and the odd bit of watery stool.Still trying to go frequently ,but in bouts .

I am now getting worried that the reddish brown water is indicative of some sort of internal bleeding ,but am prob being paranoid .

In other ways she seems to be fine ,goes for walks etc but is a bit flat and doubtless a bit pissed off with the whole thing by now!Odd bit of grunting when trying to go ,but otherwise no signs of being in pain.

My other dog is fine and not affected at all.

Any ideas as to what I can try and feed her ,and what any next steps for tomorrow would be .Will be going straight to vet on Mon morning if no change.

m3jappa

6,948 posts

247 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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I,d take her to another vet sharpish if i were you.

No offence to the vets on here but some of them (i have been to anyway) are useless.

Hope shes ok.

Disco_Biscuit

837 posts

223 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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plain rice ans chicken is pretty good when there are poorly, i'd go back to the vets or seek another vets opinion, doesn't sound right, do you have it insured?

Poledriver

29,591 posts

223 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Try a different VET! Don't want to be alarmist, and I really hope I'm wrong, but it could be a blocked or twisted gut. Relatively easy to remedy but not something which can be left for very long! frown

Good luck, and keep us posted!

Rollcage

Original Poster:

11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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m3jappa said:
I,d take her to another vet sharpish if i were you.

No offence to the vets on here but some of them (i have been to anyway) are useless.

Hope shes ok.
This is the strange thing ,she does not seem to be too bad ,and is certainly not in pain ,just a bit down I think!

Being a GSD ,stomach upsets are par for the course ,but this is going on for too long now!

ali_kat

32,154 posts

250 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Your Vet should have a 24hour call number.

Call them! Don't wait until Monday, reddish water really doesn't sound good, and the Vet will be able to advise you over the phone if they think they shoudl see you now, tomorrow or Monday once you've explained.

Do you have insurance?

Rollcage

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11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Poledriver said:
Try a different VET! Don't want to be alarmist, and I really hope I'm wrong, but it could be a blocked or twisted gut. Relatively easy to remedy but not something which can be left for very long! frown

Good luck, and keep us posted!
Poley - I had thought of this but she has not been vomiting or trying to, and not showing any signs of discomfort or bloatedness. If it wasn't for the toilet problems and a slight dullness to her generally you wouldn't really say she was ill.

Furyous

25,720 posts

250 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Different Vet, sharpish.Even a senior partner from your own practice.

If one of mine is off their food, scrambled egg with brown bread mixed in always seems to appear palatable and also fairly bland.

Dont leave it though, get another opinion.

m3jappa

6,948 posts

247 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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I,m not too knowledgeable on gsd's at all but i do know some dogs won't really show pain. I have staffs and the amount of times they have visibly hurt themselves but carry on 95% normal is untrue.

Better be safe than sorry though, good luck with her.

Poledriver

29,591 posts

223 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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It was just reminiscent of a problem I had with a GSD of mine years ago. She had swallowed 2 or 3 'J' cloths which got stuck and were acting like a filter. Gave us a scare for a week but no problem after a very quick (and messy) operation!

Rollcage

Original Poster:

11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Poledriver said:
It was just reminiscent of a problem I had with a GSD of mine years ago. She had swallowed 2 or 3 'J' cloths which got stuck and were acting like a filter. Gave us a scare for a week but no problem after a very quick (and messy) operation!
Had a similar prob with my other one (swollen liver compressing all his internal organs - probable poisoning ),but could tell he was in trouble when we woke up and rushed him to the vets as soon as they opened and they operated pretty much instantly.

Mrs Grumpy

863 posts

218 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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If it was torsion on bloat she would not be here after a week. My guess would be she's eaten something that has got stuck. I would be asking the vet for an x-ray or blood tests maybe to see if it could be anything else. A week is a long time to see no improvement.

moleamol

15,887 posts

292 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Definitely another vet ASAP. The symptoms are similar to my Cocker Spaniel and it turned out to be quite serious. X-Rays and blood tests are surely warranted now?

Rollcage

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11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Ladies and Gents ,many thanks for all your replies - I will phone the vet in the morning for further advice .Just been for a quick trot around the block ,and she nearly ripped my arm out trying to chase a cat ,so I don't think there can be too much amiss but it is still a worry - I am sure all of you with pets understand!

She has just had a bit more fresh meat ,but still won't touch anything else ,especially rice - even thouroughly mixed in with chopped meat!

If only they could talk......

SPR2

3,220 posts

225 months

Saturday 22nd August 2009
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Try boiling a chicken and adding some cooked veg to tempt her if she refuses rice. Could she have swallowed a stone?

Edited by SPR2 on Saturday 22 August 23:39

Rollcage

Original Poster:

11,345 posts

221 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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Just a quick update -

Having spoken to the duty vet on Sunday morning we agreed I should take Ria in to the surgery on Monday morning ,as she had not improved at all over the course of Sunday .

They have done some blood tests ,and she has a white blood cell count off the scale ,so she obviously has some kind of infection ,but at the moment we don't know what!

Other blood results were not a cause for concern.

I have some antibiotics for her ,but as she is now not really eating getting them down her will be fun!

She is no better ,but on the other hand no worse!

Going back to the vets in the morning so they can check her bloods again and see if she has responded to the antibiotics or not.

Thanks everyone

ScottishSamurai

8,176 posts

205 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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Hope everthying works out smile

Poledriver

29,591 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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Well a medical problem is usually better than a surgical one! Hope everything turns out OK! smile

becksW

14,698 posts

240 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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They should consider iv fluids, unless she is drinking plenty but she will be losing fluids through the diarrhoea. Plus iv fluids just make you feel a lot better and provide useful support if been inappitent for a few days. Dogs can develop medical anorexia if they have illness which puts them off food. We had a dog at the surgery recently that wouldn't eat for a week, she had no blockage etc just gastritis but because it put her off food for 24hrs it took ages to get her to eat again, she needed to go on fluids just to support her until she ate properly again.

Just too note, twisted gut/ bloat was mentioned. Symptoms of this are far more severe, she would have been in a lot of pain, weak, trying to vomit unsucessfully and collapsing. This is a true emergency and not easily remedied as if twisted they nearly always need major (high risk surgery - due to the condition of the animal) surgery to fix.
Bloat is less severe (though still very distressing for the aniaml) but can turn into a tortion.

Hope she is continuing to improve.

Andy_stook_2k

179 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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Fingers firmly crossed for you, I have two German Shepherds and know how worrying these sorts of things can be.