Anyone else this is ridiculous pandering to propaganda ?
Anyone else this is ridiculous pandering to propaganda ?
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marshalla

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15,902 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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New "travel policy" at work contains this :


"Would all members of staff who intend to renew their permit rights for the year 2009/10 please note that, in accordance with the University Travel Policy, the rates for the next academic year are as follows:

Standard rate of £216.00 per year
Payable in full or at a monthly rate of £18.00 deducted from payroll.

Discounted rate of £144.00 per year
Payable in full or at a monthly rate of £12.00 deducted from payroll.

Car-Share rate of £108.00 per year
Payable in full or at a monthly rate of £9.00 deducted from payroll.

Pre-selected day rates:
1 day £43.20 Payable in full.
2 days £86.40 Payable in full or at £7.20 per month
3 days £129.60 Payable in full or at £10.80 per month
4 days £172.80 Payable in full or at £14.40 per month

Pre-selected days are not transferable. "

No definition of what the discounted rate is for, nor any means of registering a car share - and no consultation with the staff before it was introduced.

I read it as "You are no longer permitted to live where you choose, especially if that location has crap public transport and requires you to travel to work, and if WE required you to make visits at any time during the day, we will make YOU pay extra for providing the vehicle which supports our business"

So glad I'm resigning tomorrow - no job to go to, but I can't take this st any more.


RemaL

25,102 posts

263 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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pardon my ignorance but the place you work want it's workers to pay for the right to drive to work?
what about if you ride a motorbike like I have into work?

dear god don't we get taxed enought for driving anywho

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Are they passing on this new "workplace parking" tax st or something? I thought that was just an idea at the moment?

marshalla

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15,902 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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It's part of a new policy on the environment and sustainability

Reality is that there aren't enough parking spaces to go round, but they won're restrict the number of permits issue - so we pay for a sticker which means nothing except we won't get clamped if we manage to find a space.

Strangely Brown

15,671 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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marshalla said:
It's part of a new policy on the environment and sustainability

Reality is that there aren't enough parking spaces to go round, but they won're restrict the number of permits issue - so we pay for a sticker which means nothing except we won't get clamped if we manage to find a space.
It's exactly the same here. You have to apply for a "permit to hunt for a space" for which you pay either up front, by deduction from salary or, the option that you don't have, pay and display.

We also have messages sent round reminding us that it is renewal time.

PC message said:
If you no longer require this pass and are using alternative modes of transport to commute to the campus I congratulate you.
punch

shirt

25,393 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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surely they have to give you a new contract for that kind of crap? i'd refuse and see what happens. probably not a lot.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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£18 per month for a parking permit doesnt sound that bad, given that even in a little provincial city like Chester your looking at around £5 per day for parking. or have I missed the point?

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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dibbers006 said:
Though I only live 12miles from work, it would take me over two hours by any form of Pubic (sic) Transport you care to mention. I live in a Town, near a Motorway, near a River... not a village in deepest darkest snowland.
I'm exactly the same. 12 miles takes 30 minutes - 40 in traffic.

I can cycle but it is a bit longer as I take the canal towpath so 15 miles takes 1h 30m but always the same time.

Public transport is walk - bus - train - train 2 - bus - walk = 2 hours assuming no delays or traffic anywhere.

Hmmmm.

Fleegle

16,710 posts

205 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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marshalla said:
It's part of a new policy on the environment and sustainability
The person who makes our policy had a bumper environment month in July.

2 weekends away in Spain
1 week in Israel
1 weekend in Budapest

And he didn't cycle there either.


They are all full of wind and piss

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
£18 per month for a parking permit doesnt sound that bad, given that even in a little provincial city like Chester your looking at around £5 per day for parking. or have I missed the point?
The point that there may not be a space available?

Strangely Brown

15,671 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Hey, Fleegle, shouldn't your name be spelt with an 'a'?



Fleagle.

Fleegle

16,710 posts

205 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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I like to be different

Mr E

23,039 posts

288 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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madbadger said:
I can cycle but it is a bit longer as I take the canal towpath so 15 miles takes 1h 30m but always the same time.
5mph?

Pedal harder....

smile

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Mr E said:
madbadger said:
I can cycle but it is a bit longer as I take the canal towpath so 15 miles takes 1h 30m but always the same time.
5mph?

Pedal harder....

smile
10mph, but your point stands...

mechsympathy

58,619 posts

284 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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marshalla said:
and no consultation with the staff before it was introduced.
Not that that would helpbanghead When I worked for the NHS we had a period of "consultation" about bus and cycle use that resulted in various anti-car policies despite the fact the bus service was inadequate and there was no cycle storage, changing facilities or showersbanghead

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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ewenm said:
Mr E said:
madbadger said:
I can cycle but it is a bit longer as I take the canal towpath so 15 miles takes 1h 30m but always the same time.
5mph?

Pedal harder....

smile
10mph, but your point stands...
Offroad? Fast enough for me. I don't want to arrive at work in a big sweaty mess, thanks.

klootzak

686 posts

245 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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madbadger said:
ewenm said:
Mr E said:
madbadger said:
I can cycle but it is a bit longer as I take the canal towpath so 15 miles takes 1h 30m but always the same time.
5mph?

Pedal harder....

smile
10mph, but your point stands...
Offroad? Fast enough for me. I don't want to arrive at work in a big sweaty mess, thanks.
So cycle on the road.

You said yourself that it's 3 miles shorter. And 10 mph on the road isn't enough to raise a sweat unless you're a lardyboy.

k

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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klootzak said:
So cycle on the road.

You said yourself that it's 3 miles shorter. And 10 mph on the road isn't enough to raise a sweat unless you're a lardyboy.

k
Good idea. The M1 is lovely to ride on on a mountain bike.

I think I'll stick to the trails thanks.

shakotan

10,862 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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madbadger said:
klootzak said:
So cycle on the road.

You said yourself that it's 3 miles shorter. And 10 mph on the road isn't enough to raise a sweat unless you're a lardyboy.

k
Good idea. The M1 is lovely to ride on on a mountain bike.

I think I'll stick to the trails thanks.
A great idea, you'd have an entire lane all to yourself, save the occasional broken down Renault or Highway Agency Womble. Of course, negotiating junctions could prove 'interesting'!

pits

6,704 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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I wouldnt be able to go to work
2 buses run through the day where I live, one after 9 and one around 4 and the route I would have to take would be massive,
15 miles to Newport
6 miles to Cwmbran
5 miles to where I work

So I would have to leave at 9am already late for work, take 2 hours via busses, work till 1 to get back to home around 4