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Hi everyone
I was hoping someone could help me here or give me some advice. I have had one of my neighbors complain to the rspca over the last week about my alaskan malamutes howling. They haven't bothered knocking on my door over the last week while I've been in but instead chucked a note over the back door and then the RSPCA sellotaped our front door? We have been in every day for at least 13-14 hours but as my father has just gone through kidney failure (monday) we have been out more than usual.
Another problem is that Louis has just had the snip and the vet didn't allow us to walk him for a week in fear of infection. As far as i can see he may have been howling between the hours of 12 and 8. Normally we never leave him for more than 3 hours but for this week its be unavoidable.
I have read up on the RSPCA and while originally i was quite happy for them to come see him, he is perfect weight has a huuuuge garden to run around in his kennel is my garage. He sleeps indoors overnight and while were in which is most of the day in regular times. He usually walks for at least an hour a day and he has the best food and proper treats control.
I have been made to feel like a bad parent, he is treated like one of the family it upsetting and quite scary that we are in trouble for no reason.
I have checked with one of my neighbors and hes been in with his children and hasn't had any bother or heard any noixe.
Any advice would be appreciated as im a bit worried.
I was hoping someone could help me here or give me some advice. I have had one of my neighbors complain to the rspca over the last week about my alaskan malamutes howling. They haven't bothered knocking on my door over the last week while I've been in but instead chucked a note over the back door and then the RSPCA sellotaped our front door? We have been in every day for at least 13-14 hours but as my father has just gone through kidney failure (monday) we have been out more than usual.
Another problem is that Louis has just had the snip and the vet didn't allow us to walk him for a week in fear of infection. As far as i can see he may have been howling between the hours of 12 and 8. Normally we never leave him for more than 3 hours but for this week its be unavoidable.
I have read up on the RSPCA and while originally i was quite happy for them to come see him, he is perfect weight has a huuuuge garden to run around in his kennel is my garage. He sleeps indoors overnight and while were in which is most of the day in regular times. He usually walks for at least an hour a day and he has the best food and proper treats control.
I have been made to feel like a bad parent, he is treated like one of the family it upsetting and quite scary that we are in trouble for no reason.
I have checked with one of my neighbors and hes been in with his children and hasn't had any bother or heard any noixe.
Any advice would be appreciated as im a bit worried.
You're not in trouble. The RSPCA despite wearing "uniforms" etc. are not the law and are merely a charity. They can call on the law if there is genuine abuse.
However, I've had the same s
te from knobend neighbours (now thankfully moved on with ASBO orders - after deliberately provoking my dogs amongst many other things)
With my dogs, I am perfectly happy to let the RSPCA in to see how well looked after they are. It's nothing to worry about. Of course if it's inconvenient tell them to come back at an appointed time.
Sadly the RSPCA can only call the law in if you do not provide the barest minimum for your dog, which is food, water, and a shelter from the rain.
So the "yard-dogs" my poor old mum had to put up with around hers, that are left 24/7 in all weather in a 6x4 yard with the barest minimum of shelter is legal. The fact they bark and cry all day and night, and jump up the walls, means nothing to the RSPCA - thats down to the Environmental Health.
I remember one prospective candidate for one of my last litter of pups wanted it as "a yard dog", she then laughed her head off about how the last one managed to kill itself because it kept jumping up the wall and managed to snap its spine. Needless to say she was shown the door, most insulted she was too!
Basically you have nothing to worry about if you look after your dog as a pet should be.
However, I've had the same s
te from knobend neighbours (now thankfully moved on with ASBO orders - after deliberately provoking my dogs amongst many other things)With my dogs, I am perfectly happy to let the RSPCA in to see how well looked after they are. It's nothing to worry about. Of course if it's inconvenient tell them to come back at an appointed time.
Sadly the RSPCA can only call the law in if you do not provide the barest minimum for your dog, which is food, water, and a shelter from the rain.
So the "yard-dogs" my poor old mum had to put up with around hers, that are left 24/7 in all weather in a 6x4 yard with the barest minimum of shelter is legal. The fact they bark and cry all day and night, and jump up the walls, means nothing to the RSPCA - thats down to the Environmental Health.
I remember one prospective candidate for one of my last litter of pups wanted it as "a yard dog", she then laughed her head off about how the last one managed to kill itself because it kept jumping up the wall and managed to snap its spine. Needless to say she was shown the door, most insulted she was too!
Basically you have nothing to worry about if you look after your dog as a pet should be.
Edited by gadzookz on Saturday 5th September 20:07
Sounds like you have a stupid neighbour that thinks that a howling dog (like wolves howl) is in distress.
It's quite rare to find domestic dogs howling, but very funny, it is after all ancient wolf communication. My male dogs would do it when there was a bh in season around the neighbourhood and they really got desperate. They haven't done it since castration.
One of them does howl if nobody answers the ringing telephone though. Very funny it is too!
I would imagine Alaskan dogs, being closer to wild dogs, would howl very often. Nothing wrong with it. Perfectly normal behaviour.
It's quite rare to find domestic dogs howling, but very funny, it is after all ancient wolf communication. My male dogs would do it when there was a b
h in season around the neighbourhood and they really got desperate. They haven't done it since castration. One of them does howl if nobody answers the ringing telephone though. Very funny it is too!
I would imagine Alaskan dogs, being closer to wild dogs, would howl very often. Nothing wrong with it. Perfectly normal behaviour.
Edited by gadzookz on Saturday 5th September 20:15
The law has changed fairly recently about what you need to provide for your pet's welfare, so is now more than just food, shelter, etc.
I'm guessing your door was taped as they were worried about abandonment. If the tape was still there they could have involved the police and broken in. I would contact them and invite them in for an explanation. I really dont think there is anything to worry about especially if you explain to them as you have here.
I'm guessing your door was taped as they were worried about abandonment. If the tape was still there they could have involved the police and broken in. I would contact them and invite them in for an explanation. I really dont think there is anything to worry about especially if you explain to them as you have here.
OnTheOverrun said:
If my neighbours dog was left alone for 8 hours howling, I too would call the RSPCA.
If my neighbours dog was howling for 8 hours a day, I'd get pretty cross.If, as you say, it is due to an unusual combination of unfortunate circumstances, I wouldn't worry about it.
If it continues, you need to sort it out as it wouldn't be fair on the neighbour or the dog and indeed might be a legal nuisance.
I know why he has been howling more. He needs to be walked an hour a day or at least 45 minutes. He hasn't for fear of infection and under commands of the vet. He's had a brisk walk this evening for a couple of miles so he should be a bit more content. I would honestly have appreciated a knock on the door or something.
The amount of crap i put up with from them its only decent that they at least speak to me to say theres an issue. One of them had a crazy build project that he would start at just before 8 every day. He puts his yappy dog out at 8 am every morning to have it bark till 11. The guy over the road plays drums from sunday morning. The guy neighboring my garden has screaming matches with his wife every weekend. the 2 houses next to my neighbors either side hate each other and twice have had brawls and smashed up each others cars/windows they also have a rotty that they don't walk and is constantly aggressive and barking. all this and i just let the buggers be.
My neighbor has been in all week with his kids and he hasn't noticed a thing and will say so to anyone. In short i have stty neighbors.
The amount of crap i put up with from them its only decent that they at least speak to me to say theres an issue. One of them had a crazy build project that he would start at just before 8 every day. He puts his yappy dog out at 8 am every morning to have it bark till 11. The guy over the road plays drums from sunday morning. The guy neighboring my garden has screaming matches with his wife every weekend. the 2 houses next to my neighbors either side hate each other and twice have had brawls and smashed up each others cars/windows they also have a rotty that they don't walk and is constantly aggressive and barking. all this and i just let the buggers be.
My neighbor has been in all week with his kids and he hasn't noticed a thing and will say so to anyone. In short i have s
tty neighbors.loafer123 said:
OnTheOverrun said:
If my neighbours dog was left alone for 8 hours howling, I too would call the RSPCA.
If my neighbours dog was howling for 8 hours a day, I'd get pretty cross.If, as you say, it is due to an unusual combination of unfortunate circumstances, I wouldn't worry about it.
If it continues, you need to sort it out as it wouldn't be fair on the neighbour or the dog and indeed might be a legal nuisance.
Darkstalker said:
I know why he has been howling more. He needs to be walked an hour a day or at least 45 minutes. He hasn't for fear of infection and under commands of the vet. He's had a brisk walk this evening for a couple of miles so he should be a bit more content. I would honestly have appreciated a knock on the door or something.
The amount of crap i put up with from them its only decent that they at least speak to me to say theres an issue. One of them had a crazy build project that he would start at just before 8 every day. He puts his yappy dog out at 8 am every morning to have it bark till 11. The guy over the road plays drums from sunday morning. The guy neighboring my garden has screaming matches with his wife every weekend. the 2 houses next to my neighbors either side hate each other and twice have had brawls and smashed up each others cars/windows they also have a rotty that they don't walk and is constantly aggressive and barking. all this and i just let the buggers be.
My neighbor has been in all week with his kids and he hasn't noticed a thing and will say so to anyone. In short i have stty neighbors.
Sounds like paradise. (On a council estate!)The amount of crap i put up with from them its only decent that they at least speak to me to say theres an issue. One of them had a crazy build project that he would start at just before 8 every day. He puts his yappy dog out at 8 am every morning to have it bark till 11. The guy over the road plays drums from sunday morning. The guy neighboring my garden has screaming matches with his wife every weekend. the 2 houses next to my neighbors either side hate each other and twice have had brawls and smashed up each others cars/windows they also have a rotty that they don't walk and is constantly aggressive and barking. all this and i just let the buggers be.
My neighbor has been in all week with his kids and he hasn't noticed a thing and will say so to anyone. In short i have s
tty neighbors.I have my issues with the RSPCA but I would work with them in this case. Explain what has happened recently, they will see you having him neutered as a responsible thing to have had done etc.. Don't let your neighbours get one over on you by being difficult with the RSPCA. If you were a bad owner I would want to know the RSPCA had acted upon a tip off. They don't know you let them know how good you are, they may even be able to give you some advice, help at a tricky time.
N.B. If your dog is a bit stressed etc ask your vet about Zylkene. It is not a drug but may help to calm your pet down whilst he is being left for longer than usual and whilst not being walked as normal. DAP diffusers also worth looking into.
Good luck.
N.B. If your dog is a bit stressed etc ask your vet about Zylkene. It is not a drug but may help to calm your pet down whilst he is being left for longer than usual and whilst not being walked as normal. DAP diffusers also worth looking into.
Good luck.
I had a note from the RSPCA last week, thanks to my nutty neighbour, she has complained that my GSD, Jackrat and Golden R pup have been fighting, and that we have been arranging dog fights, naturally this is total crap.
When I phoned the helpline they passed my number on to the inspecting officer, who left me a voicemail to say that he'd been to my house and checked the dogs over and was happy that they are all in good health and uninjured. This was most interesting as I was out walking them all at the time and had been with them all day, needless to say I hadn't seen anyone from the RSPCA.
The issue, I believe is that the lady next door has rescued a very timid dog about two months ago, and will not let it meet my dogs, hence, the GSD fence runs trying to get to it and barks. I've done my best to ensure that my dogs are out at different times, and to stand out with them to stop the fence running but this has been made a lot harder in the past week as she has taken to going out to work leaving her kitchen door wide open so her dog can have the run of the house and the garden all day, madness IMO considering the estate where we live.
I've paid for a behaviourist to come to our home and see the dogs about the fence running as I'm concerned it may cause aggression in either dog but without the dogs meeting, the only option is to keep mine in while her dogs out.... my dogs are not yard dogs, they're walked through woodland for about an hour every day and my lodger is currently doing a degree in animal behaviourism, next door's is never walked and seems to fear everything in sight, including the owner.
Last year I had a complaint that the dogs had been chained up in the yard for three weeks without food or water as I was away on holiday. The day the complaint was made the dogs were at my mums farm, as I was having a new gate and fence fitted, and the three weeks in question both myself and my ex were at home...that time the RSPCA did check the dogs over, concluded that it was a malicous (SP) complaint but refused to tell me who had made it. My belief is that next door was annoyed that I wouldnt pay for both our carports to be fixed as I was fixing mine, and she gave me some sob story about how she was too poor to afford to do hers, but it made sense for me to pay for the completion as it would save on costs if they were both done at one time. I'm sure that you can guess my reaction.
When I phoned the helpline they passed my number on to the inspecting officer, who left me a voicemail to say that he'd been to my house and checked the dogs over and was happy that they are all in good health and uninjured. This was most interesting as I was out walking them all at the time and had been with them all day, needless to say I hadn't seen anyone from the RSPCA.
The issue, I believe is that the lady next door has rescued a very timid dog about two months ago, and will not let it meet my dogs, hence, the GSD fence runs trying to get to it and barks. I've done my best to ensure that my dogs are out at different times, and to stand out with them to stop the fence running but this has been made a lot harder in the past week as she has taken to going out to work leaving her kitchen door wide open so her dog can have the run of the house and the garden all day, madness IMO considering the estate where we live.
I've paid for a behaviourist to come to our home and see the dogs about the fence running as I'm concerned it may cause aggression in either dog but without the dogs meeting, the only option is to keep mine in while her dogs out.... my dogs are not yard dogs, they're walked through woodland for about an hour every day and my lodger is currently doing a degree in animal behaviourism, next door's is never walked and seems to fear everything in sight, including the owner.
Last year I had a complaint that the dogs had been chained up in the yard for three weeks without food or water as I was away on holiday. The day the complaint was made the dogs were at my mums farm, as I was having a new gate and fence fitted, and the three weeks in question both myself and my ex were at home...that time the RSPCA did check the dogs over, concluded that it was a malicous (SP) complaint but refused to tell me who had made it. My belief is that next door was annoyed that I wouldnt pay for both our carports to be fixed as I was fixing mine, and she gave me some sob story about how she was too poor to afford to do hers, but it made sense for me to pay for the completion as it would save on costs if they were both done at one time. I'm sure that you can guess my reaction.
To update,
Had a call from the RSPCA today. The gent on the phone said he had a call about an abandoned dog. he had checked his health seen he was in tip top condition and explained why he taped my door. He then said that he could see that the dog had my garage to run in and out of to which i replied that he would have to have been on my property to do so which is illegal. He quickly said he looked over my back fence. Which i know is about 10-12 foot high and behind it is about 20-30 foot of thorny bushes. so now i know its one of three neighbors who basically were being complete tts, He also said when he arrived the dog was simply playing in the garden with his many toys not making any noise throughout the whole thing.
I will sent the miss round to go give them our number if there is any issue in further.
Had a call from the RSPCA today. The gent on the phone said he had a call about an abandoned dog. he had checked his health seen he was in tip top condition and explained why he taped my door. He then said that he could see that the dog had my garage to run in and out of to which i replied that he would have to have been on my property to do so which is illegal. He quickly said he looked over my back fence. Which i know is about 10-12 foot high and behind it is about 20-30 foot of thorny bushes. so now i know its one of three neighbors who basically were being complete t
ts, He also said when he arrived the dog was simply playing in the garden with his many toys not making any noise throughout the whole thing. I will sent the miss round to go give them our number if there is any issue in further.
Basically, your neighbour has issues with you, and instead of confronting you about whatever their problem is, called the RSPCA [which is a complete waste of their time and money] because they knew it would probably upset you.
You neighbour is pathetic and cowardly.
That said - those three hours when the dog is usually left alone could be hell for your neighbours...barking and howling dogs are very annoying and unacceptable. Maybe your neighbour has simply had enough? [/devils advocate]
You neighbour is pathetic and cowardly.
That said - those three hours when the dog is usually left alone could be hell for your neighbours...barking and howling dogs are very annoying and unacceptable. Maybe your neighbour has simply had enough? [/devils advocate]
May not help alot now, but you should speak to your vet about the problem you're experiencing, both as they can also speak to the RSPCA and back up your story, and also may be able to provide some help with stopping your dog howling [ask about DAP diffusers or Aboistop collars] which can be a real earache if you're next to it and don't know why it's happening. Could be your neighbour is a prat, and believe me the RSPCA will recognise that if you're open with them. HTH
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