Hypnosis; is it real or BS?
Discussion
Been hypnotised.
It does work.
I was told an onion was the juiciest apple I had ever seen - had the taste in my mouth for weeks.
I was also told that when I woke up I would be the only one with clothes on. Everyone else in the pub was naked. Apparently I stared at some girl for ages, but trying to make it not look obvious, at the time I didn't think I was hypnotised and I didnt realise everyone was looking at me.
It does work.
I was told an onion was the juiciest apple I had ever seen - had the taste in my mouth for weeks.
I was also told that when I woke up I would be the only one with clothes on. Everyone else in the pub was naked. Apparently I stared at some girl for ages, but trying to make it not look obvious, at the time I didn't think I was hypnotised and I didnt realise everyone was looking at me.
dpbird90 said:
Conveniently they couldn't show you how he did it
I believe this is due to the fact that TV viewers could become hypnotised through the television.Can you imagine homes all over the UK with people sat there for weeks on end, monged on the setee because McKenna didn't undo them ?
lazyitus said:
dpbird90 said:
Conveniently they couldn't show you how he did it
I believe this is due to the fact that TV viewers could become hypnotised through the television.Can you imagine homes all over the UK with people sat there for weeks on end, monged on the setee because McKenna didn't undo them ?
There is legislation relating to it.
People laugh as they are scared by it. A decent hypnotist will get anyone under.....they have to be talked into it more. It's more "feeling safe and trusting a confident person".....everyone can do that.
You need an environment where you can get people to relax. Where you can maintain someone's attention. Hence low lights, trancey music, etc.
lazyitus said:
dpbird90 said:
Conveniently they couldn't show you how he did it
I believe this is due to the fact that TV viewers could become hypnotised through the television.Can you imagine homes all over the UK with people sat there for weeks on end, monged on the setee because McKenna didn't undo them ?
... I must kill
... I must kill
... I must kill
... I must kill
... I must kill
... I must kill
Having studied stage hypnosis and clinical hypnotherapy for several years - here are the points that you are probably looking for in order to make your mind up
- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
TheCarpetCleaner said:
Having studied stage hypnosis and clinical hypnotherapy for several years - here are the points that you are probably looking for in order to make your mind up
- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
The key question is..- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
can you make women give you sexual favours.
TheCarpetCleaner said:
Having studied stage hypnosis and clinical hypnotherapy for several years - here are the points that you are probably looking for in order to make your mind up
- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
blimey! I'd never guess all that was going on in the head of someone shampooing my rug.Gedon said:
You need an environment where you can get people to relax. Where you can maintain someone's attention. Hence low lights, trancey music, etc.
Once in a situation like this on a management course.The facilitator had us all lie on the floor with the lights dimmed and got us to go tighten and relax specific groups of muscles and the leave that group relaxed and move on.
You know the story, fists & relax, forearms & relax, etc then on through the leg groups, the on to the head and moving down through the body core becoming more and more relaxed.
The last group was the buttocks which clenched up nicely but rejoiced with a truly monumental fart upon being relaxed.
Fair to say it killed the occasion completely
CommanderJameson said:
Gedon said:
There is legislation relating to it.
OK, you've piqued my curiosity.Do tell.
British TV watchdog Ofcom: said:
Rule 2.9 Hypnosis
Elements of the hypnotist’s routine may be broadcast to set the scene. However, it is important not to broadcast the routine in its entirety, nor to broadcast elements that may cause a member of the audience to believe they are being influenced in some way.
This is because it is perfectly possible to be hypnotised through the TV, or indeed through the radio.
The most important thing to know about hypnosis is that people vary in their hypnotisability and this is the single most important thing that determines whether suggestions will have an effect.
Edited by lazyitus on Thursday 10th September 12:30
joe_90 said:
TheCarpetCleaner said:
Having studied stage hypnosis and clinical hypnotherapy for several years - here are the points that you are probably looking for in order to make your mind up
- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
The key question is..- Hypnosis only works if you believe it is going to work. Having a presence like Paul Mckenna helps as he is known to be able to do it, as people see it and believe it. If I were to approach you and say "I can hypnotise you" - it probably wouldn't work.
- If you are one of those people that say "I can never be hypnotised, it doesn't work" - then you are right, it wont. It is more a guided meditation more than anything else (clinical), or the want to be hypnotised in front of others (stage)
- If you go to a stage hypnosis show, they will do what is called a susceptibility test. This is where they ask all the audience members to do a simple task, for example, they tell you to clasp your hands together and say "Your hands are now locked together, and you cannot unclasp them". Some audience members (usually most as they are they because they believe it) will not be able to unclasp their hands, some will. Guess which ones will be picked to go on stage...
- Clinical hypnosis works on the same basis, as you go to a clinical hypnotist wanting to lose weight / give up smoking / to become a carpet cleaner. Therefore you are guided to what you deep down already want, so it has massive effect on some people, limited on others. If you dont really want to achieve the goal, or are not really that committed, it won't work.
- You can NEVER by hypnotised to do what you do not want to do. I could not hypnotise you, regardless of your belief, to hand over all the money in your bank account, and the deeds to your house. Or I could not hypnotise you to murder your parents, unless of course you actually really wanted to. It was experimented with during WWII alongside chemical stimulants but was generally a failure.
So the short answer is, yes it does work. If you believe it, and if you want to be hypnotised. The level in which it works depends on you, your belief in the hypnotist, and the environment that it is carried out in.
Anyway back to carpet cleaning...
can you make women give you sexual favours.
TheCarpetCleaner said:
911motorsport said:
TheCarpetCleaner said:
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blimey! I'd never guess all that was going on in the head of someone shampooing my rug.
My only experience of it is indirect through my girlfriend, she was petrified of spiders (and I mean petrified literally - when she saw one she froze and couldn't do anything but scream for someone to come and help her).
She went to a course at London Zoo which as far as I can tell was a mixture of cognitive behavioural therapy and hypnosis and was fine with spiders (to the extent of being able to sleep in a room with one on the ceiling) until recently, when her old phobia has started to reappear.
So, from that I conclude that either CBT or hypnosis works and possibly both.
She went to a course at London Zoo which as far as I can tell was a mixture of cognitive behavioural therapy and hypnosis and was fine with spiders (to the extent of being able to sleep in a room with one on the ceiling) until recently, when her old phobia has started to reappear.
So, from that I conclude that either CBT or hypnosis works and possibly both.
youngsyr said:
...when her old phobia has started to reappear.
For something as deep seated as a proper phobia, especially one as severe as the reaction you have described, she would need multiple sessions about 3-4 weeks apart in order for her to subconsciously not be bothered by spiders any more.The fact it did work proves that she wants to be rid of her phobia, and I would honestly ask her to look around for a trusted recommended hypnotherapist to continue with it.
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