Medical bill from a French hospital visit!
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Sorry mods, no idea where to put this!
I had a brief stay in a French hospital earlier in the year, overnight I think!. Anyways, I've just received what looks like a 170 euro bill. I thought the E111 card (or whatever it is) negated the need to pay such things. I guess I was wrong.
Do I need to pay it? Anyone had similar?
Cheers.
I had a brief stay in a French hospital earlier in the year, overnight I think!. Anyways, I've just received what looks like a 170 euro bill. I thought the E111 card (or whatever it is) negated the need to pay such things. I guess I was wrong.
Do I need to pay it? Anyone had similar?
Cheers.
Chilli said:
Sorry mods, no idea where to put this!
I had a brief stay in a French hospital earlier in the year, overnight I think!. Anyways, I've just received what looks like a 170 euro bill. I thought the E111 card (or whatever it is) negated the need to pay such things. I guess I was wrong.
Do I need to pay it? Anyone had similar?
Cheers.
What do you mean "overnight, I think!"? Did you bang your head? I had a brief stay in a French hospital earlier in the year, overnight I think!. Anyways, I've just received what looks like a 170 euro bill. I thought the E111 card (or whatever it is) negated the need to pay such things. I guess I was wrong.
Do I need to pay it? Anyone had similar?
Cheers.
Apparently an E111 gives you "reduced cost or sometimes free" healthcare, whatever that means. Did you present the card to them at the time?
What's it for? A friend of mine was in for a few days and they charged him bed and board, plus crutches, bandages and medication. I don't know whether he claimed it back from his insurance or the NHS, although I expect claiming off the NHS would be like getting blood from a stone
ETA and they wouldn't give him any painkillers before they had a credit card despite his badly broken leg
ETA and they wouldn't give him any painkillers before they had a credit card despite his badly broken leg
Edited by Bill on Friday 25th September 19:32
When I had some metalwork added in Sallanches (nr Chamonix) the EU cover only paid for the treatment...and only then after months of phone calls! There was other stuff that I had to pay and get back off travel insurance. On the day I was discharged they actually wheeled me to the hospital cashier/accounts office and wouldn't let me out until I'd settled all the 'extras'. IIRC this included ambulance, tranfer to airport, food, meds for jouney home etc.
Driller said:
...Apparently an E111 gives you "reduced cost or sometimes free" healthcare, whatever that means. Did you present the card to them at the time?
Quite right, all the E111 will do is provide the basics, like the NHS will do, any additional bills are still payable. Just forward them onto your travel insurance people, (presuming they're aware) and you'll be covered.Cool, cheers!
I'd had a couple of beers, and trying to find my way home decided to climb the fence surrounding the Le mans circuit.... I made it halfway, then gravity took over.
Woke up in a bed, with a drip etc...and a mate picked me up a few hours later.
Rach, I doubt it...but I'd rather not be arrested for it in 10 years time, and have to spend the next month at the mercy of mr big and his wedding proposals!
I'd had a couple of beers, and trying to find my way home decided to climb the fence surrounding the Le mans circuit.... I made it halfway, then gravity took over.
Woke up in a bed, with a drip etc...and a mate picked me up a few hours later.
Rach, I doubt it...but I'd rather not be arrested for it in 10 years time, and have to spend the next month at the mercy of mr big and his wedding proposals!
Chilli said:
Cool, cheers!
I'd had a couple of beers, and trying to find my way home decided to climb the fence surrounding the Le mans circuit.... I made it halfway, then gravity took over.
Woke up in a bed, with a drip etc...and a mate picked me up a few hours later.
Rach, I doubt it...but I'd rather not be arrested for it in 10 years time, and have to spend the next month at the mercy of mr big and his wedding proposals!
You could send Mr Big my way! I'd had a couple of beers, and trying to find my way home decided to climb the fence surrounding the Le mans circuit.... I made it halfway, then gravity took over.
Woke up in a bed, with a drip etc...and a mate picked me up a few hours later.
Rach, I doubt it...but I'd rather not be arrested for it in 10 years time, and have to spend the next month at the mercy of mr big and his wedding proposals!
Mutley said:
Driller said:
...Apparently an E111 gives you "reduced cost or sometimes free" healthcare, whatever that means. Did you present the card to them at the time?
Quite right, all the E111 will do is provide the basics, like the NHS will do, any additional bills are still payable. Just forward them onto your travel insurance people, (presuming they're aware) and you'll be covered.
I think that they will keep "reminding" you until the debt is settled.
The big difference between France and UK is that all the medical practitioners here are private and charge for everything.
If you are a french resident (or hold a carte vitale) you get 60% of the standard fee back.
So a trip to a GP will cost you c€28. the standard fee is €25..... of which you get €15.. so the trip costs you €13.
YOu can buy "Mutual" which tops up the balance as a percentage of the standard fee ranging from 100% to 400%.. so if you buy the basic then this €28 trip would only cost you €3...... if you buy the 400% you could go and see a very expensive GP and get it back!!!
So the people pursuing you for payment aren't actually the French NHS as it doesn't exist it's effectively a private company... the ambulance isn't an ambulance per say it's more of a taxi company.....
HTH
The big difference between France and UK is that all the medical practitioners here are private and charge for everything.
If you are a french resident (or hold a carte vitale) you get 60% of the standard fee back.
So a trip to a GP will cost you c€28. the standard fee is €25..... of which you get €15.. so the trip costs you €13.
YOu can buy "Mutual" which tops up the balance as a percentage of the standard fee ranging from 100% to 400%.. so if you buy the basic then this €28 trip would only cost you €3...... if you buy the 400% you could go and see a very expensive GP and get it back!!!
So the people pursuing you for payment aren't actually the French NHS as it doesn't exist it's effectively a private company... the ambulance isn't an ambulance per say it's more of a taxi company.....
HTH
Big Time Charlie said:
Be thankful it wasn't Switzerland. I had an overnight stay and a few scans after a car accident. Bill for just over 12 hours? 5 grand sterling. Lucikly my health insurance picked it up but it took a long time to go through.
What happens if you can't afford the treatment?And as a more general question for other parts of the world, do doctors have a legal duty of care in that they HAVE tp provide treatment, even if it is very very basic if the patient can't afford anything else?
Marcellus said:
If you are a french resident (or hold a carte vitale) you get 60% of the standard fee back.
So a trip to a GP will cost you c€28. the standard fee is €25..... of which you get €15.. so the trip costs you €13.
like this idea for UK, and reduce income tax - would stop all the timewasters bothering doctors over a sore throatSo a trip to a GP will cost you c€28. the standard fee is €25..... of which you get €15.. so the trip costs you €13.
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