Is this a new saying?
Is this a new saying?
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TheCarpetCleaner

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7,294 posts

231 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Just recently, over the past 6 months or so, I have noticed an increasing trend amoung some co-workers, clients and friends.

I can't say its an annoying habit, as I cannot let something as trivial as how one wishes to speak annoy me. However I do find it puzzling and was wondering if someone here could explain the reason behind it.

The saying is used in virtually every sentence that requires a confirmation - for example, you may not be able to make a particular appointment so you say

"If I don't make the appointment, then I don't make the appointment"

Or if you are going to arrive late somewhere and it can't be predicted

"If I am going to arrive late, then I am going to arrive late"

So why the need to say something, then confirm it again to the listener straight afterwards confused

Surely it is easier just to say "I may be arriving late" or am I missing something here? I don't understand why loads of people have started saying it as well - it almost sounds a bit retarded like they are having to confirm it to themselves while saying it...

Either that or all my friends are poorly programmed robots obsessed with "If - Then" routines yes



Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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This.
This.

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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If its not going to annoy you, then its not going to annoy you.

ShadownINja

80,050 posts

311 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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I think there's an underlying arrogance in the statement in a kind of "that's how it is so tough st if you don't like it" manner.

AB

20,472 posts

224 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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It's just like saying "Nothing you can do about it" the alternative is "If I'm going to be late, I'll drive faster"

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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ShadownINja said:
I think there's an underlying arrogance in the statement in a kind of "that's how it is so tough st if you don't like it" manner.
Just what I was thinking, a modified "no responsibility, I am a victim, you owe me" mentality coming into vogue.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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If i'm going to be late, the deal falls through,

If i'm going to be late, then you'll have to step in for me.

If i'm going to be late, there is no point in me going.

All bad...

If i'm going to be late, then i'm going to be late.

Doesn't matter, ie non-consequential, the worst that will happen is the fact that i am late.

WTFWT

868 posts

252 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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They have a word for this in the areas I work: "Inshallah".

Sums it up perfectly and I've even notice it creep in to my own conversations back in Europe. To some very suspect looks! evilshoot

lightningghost

4,943 posts

278 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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WTFWT said:
They have a word for this in the areas I work: "Inshallah".

Sums it up perfectly and I've even notice it creep in to my own conversations back in Europe. To some very suspect looks! evilshoot
Arabic for "God Willing" or something like that?

Simpo Two

92,709 posts

294 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Fotuntately it's not a phrase I come across. I wouldn't get much work if I said 'Well if I don't turn up to photograph your wedding, I don't turn up to photograph your wedding'.


Yep, thoughtlessness at best and arrogance at worst.

Blib

48,071 posts

226 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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The way I read it is, "I'll try my very best to get there on time. However, if I still arrive late, then so be it".

I don't see the phrase as arrogant. Rather it's one of accepting the fact that, despite one's best efforts, things don't always go to plan.

Arese

21,350 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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lightningghost said:
WTFWT said:
They have a word for this in the areas I work: "Inshallah".

Sums it up perfectly and I've even notice it creep in to my own conversations back in Europe. To some very suspect looks! evilshoot
Arabic for "God Willing" or something like that?
"If God is willing"

It's more common in my place of work than "Fancy a brew?"

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

218 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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TheEnd said:
If i'm going to be late, the deal falls through,

If i'm going to be late, then you'll have to step in for me.

If i'm going to be late, there is no point in me going.

All bad...

If i'm going to be late, then i'm going to be late.

Doesn't matter, ie non-consequential, the worst that will happen is the fact that i am late.
Exactly, it plays down the problem. Like "If she's got a problem with it, then she's got a problem with it. Big deal"

Vespula

3,210 posts

205 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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It is certainly not new. Maybe it is a resurgence in your area.

People also use a similar saying with money e.g. "After all, £100 is £100." meaning it is no mean sum.

Edited by Vespula on Friday 9th October 08:06

parakitaMol.

11,876 posts

280 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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swerni said:
Que Será Será wink
Get you with your é ó á shortcuts

Poof.

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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parakitaMol. said:
swerni said:
Que Será Será wink
Get you with your é ó á shortcuts

Poof.
+1

Massive poof.

Massive, bald poof.

Massive, bald poof with terrible dress sense.

Edited by Cara Van Man on Friday 9th October 08:55


Edited by Cara Van Man on Friday 9th October 08:56


Edited by Cara Van Man on Friday 9th October 08:56

TheCarpetCleaner

Original Poster:

7,294 posts

231 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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So has it featured on a TV show or advert recently that I have missed? Normally these pointless expressions come about after it features in an advert or a TV show ('simples' anyone rolleyes )

I would be interested to know how it started again as it is becoming more and more noticeable.

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Can't say I've noticed anyone doing it (unless of course I have noticed someone saying it).

Zad

13,007 posts

265 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Deo volente...

Or, as it was commonly used, D.V.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Maybe they think it makes them sound more edgy and risk-taking, like an action hero tough guy. "If I'm late for my dentist appointment then so be it, I'll take it like a man!"