'rising above it' and not always being able to..!

[briSk]

sometimes.. do you just feel that, not being a 'christian' (!), you just can't 'rise above things'! say if there's someone who always tries to push in on the train. you've observed other people being 'disadvantaged' (by him) and just putting up with it and then the s0d does it to you with a cocky grin so you just lean in to him and 'robustly defend your position' (even if it's just for the sake of it!)??

i did and he went a bit mental at me (!)but everyone else just ignored his protestations (because he's an effing cock end). so i know i was in the moral victory area - but it just fvcks me off that people who probably claim to be good quality middle england types think they can c0ck around and get away with it because of other people (including me 95% of the time)being 'soft'.

or am i just getting old and commuter-worn..!

[BoRED S2upid]

Had exactly the same rage on Friday, we had climbed Snowdon the long way around, this had taken us almost 4 hours in the wind and rain and I was running out of water for the return trip, I was in the que for a bottle of water at the cafe and some snooty woman (who had just stepped off the train) pushes tot he front. "Oi theres a que, get to the back!".

I normally wouldn't have been so abrupt but circumstances took the better of me.

[TheD]

Good on you sir. I feckin hate these bullying in types and I always have something to say when they try it on with me. But I know how you feel as everyone just seems to let them get on with it. Saying that if they tried that in few pubs I know he wouldn't last long

[GekkoRules]

I have always taken a zero tolerance approach to anything I perceive as rude.

Example - Not being thanked for holding a door open always results in me saying ' You think I'm here to hold the door for you?'

I do have a bit of the rage in general but there is no excuse for rudeness.

With queues I find if you challenge the 'rudester' then you always, always, get some support from others.

Airport queues are a favourite.

[58warren]

Same with the muppets that try and enter a tube or train whilst everyone else is trying to get off. Do they think it's going to pull away whilst people are still disembarking??? Also the idiots that don't get out the way of the doors when you are trying to exit... Just get off the bloody train and stand on the platform for a few seconds you cretins!!!

[briSk]

^ that's another thing - my wife always tells me off 'for lowering myself' if i say 'no really thank you' in those sorts of situations..!

[Terzo123]

Similar thing happened to me at a busy bar.

I had been waiting patiently for 10 minutes or so trying to get served, when some guy managed to push his way past several people including myself and squeeze his way to the front of the queue. To rub it in he got served straight away. I was raging.

However when he tried to push past me again to leave the bar with his armful of drinks, I just stood my ground and said something along the lines of " You managed to shove your past me to get to the bar, so you'll just have to shove by me again" along with questioning his parentage.

He didn't say too much, and scuttled off to the side, whilst getting a wet t-shirt from his spilling drinks.

Nobody else said a thing, I think they thought it was just to be expected, or maybe i was in the wrong for thinking people would observe some sort of queuing etiquette.

[briSk]

Terzo123 said:

or maybe i was in the wrong for thinking people would observe some sort of queuing etiquette.

this is the thing though isn't it. i bet this same chap would have expected some one to give his mother a seat or his sister a taxi at the rank or whatever. probably maons about 'foreigners etc. but has absolutely no 'british' 'manners'.

the thing is with this chap if he'd have done anything other than smirk and clearly give no indication that he'd yield i'd have just conceded (out of being a nice chap) and it's usually the case these fvckers think they're 'winning' by playing outside the rules (of an alleged civilised society).

and that's the rub. i am a big chap. normally i have to effectively concede to some little girl or whatever because i'd flipping knock her flying with no effort at all. so when some mummy's boy comes along every so often you just have to 'accidentily' 'not pull back'..!

[6655321]

briSk said:

sometimes.. do you just feel that, not being a 'christian' (!), you just can't 'rise above things'!

Nope, I think "not rising above it" is certainly not a Christian thing! It happens to everyone.

[bazking69]

Sometimes you have to make some noise in the persuit of fairness. I'm normally patient but when people take the piss I will quite happily make some noise.

[trickywoo]

This is what will happen one day if you rise above everything

[NDA]

Many years ago a pushy commuter crammed his way into the train corridor and used the edge of the door frame to get extra purchase to shove his fellow commuters out of the way.

Unfortunately it was a slam door train and he hadn't reckoned on a spare guard at Clapham Junction slamming the door onto his fingers.

The door completely closed too.

Quite a mess, much howling and little sympathy.

[gilla]

do this all the time, can't stand pushy bds or bad manners... prime example... Waterloo train station, rush hour, bloke with a huge rucksack hits me with it then stops to pick up a paper in the middle of a flow of people trying to get on the escalator, swings around tts me right in the face, wait a second for him to apologise, nothing... cue him sliding across the station floor looking confused

[AbarthChris]

Best one i heard was a woman who ran down the platform onto a reaaaally crowded train and shoved her way on. Only problem for her was that, as she pushed in, the crowd swayed to one side, and then back towards her and pushed her off! She fell out onto the platform and the doors closed to much laughing

[mr brightside]

GekkoRules said:

Example - Not being thanked for holding a door open always results in me saying ' You think I'm here to hold the door for you?'

Or as I often do in the same situation, 'You're welcome' as loud as possible usually returns a mumbled thanks.
I commute up from Southampton to Waterloo and use the tube everyday. The amount of rudeness and selfishness is astonishing, grown men and women behaving like children, pushing and stomping about to get a seat or to be first on the carriage, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Whilst I am certainly no wallflower I do try to ignore a lot of it as getting too worked up would put me in an early grave.

[loafer123]

When someone pillock sidles up to jump the bus queue at London Bridge I frequently challenge them. I've also been known to push people entering the bus out of doors when they won't wait for disembarking passengers.

My favourite occasion was telling a tt to turn off the rap music he was playing to the whole top deck of the bus via his mobile phone. I took a vote from the other passengers. He lost.

Funny that it was about that moment that my wife decided we should move out of town... ;-)

[illmonkey]

I do this fairly often, it drives the missus crazy. But people need to know damnit.

People stop in front of me, "thanks for stopping".
I hold the door open, don't get thanked "No problem!".
I let someone through (driving), get no wave, so I go mental waving to get a point across.

ETA: People walking three abreast down a path. Look, there are 3 of you and one of me, I am NOT going to walk on that busy road. Most don't move and get a shoulder to the chest. All it takes is for you to drop behind your friend so I don't need to get hit by a car. Thanks!

Edited by illmonkey on Wednesday 4th November 14:07

[Ayahuasca]

Another one to hate - those people who insist on walking through a busy station, airport, pavement etc not looking where they're going and expecting people to move out of their way.

Well, I don't.

Quite a few have bounced off my elbow in confusion.

[andyroo]

You gotta watch out though, especially with the younger aggressors, because the likelihood is that they would have no qualms in sticking a knife in you. I was out for a walk with my wife last summer, and this hooded type was cycling along the very wide path towards us. At the last minute he swerved into us, presumably to make us jump for his amusement, but I decided in a split second moment of ill-rationed thinking, to stand firm and let him hit me. Which he did, and he fell off. He jumped up and started doing that young ruffian fight initiation dance, you know the one, it lasts ages, whilst his mates came out from nowhere and attacked me from behind (oo err!) whilst his dance was distracting me. When they had decided that enough was enough, the three of them left, with the original chap telling me that if he ever saw me again, he would use a weapon on me.

So watch out folks! Some people to do it to provoke a fight.

[TheCarpetCleaner]

IMO rising above it only works if people being rude or aggressive are ingrained with good manners from the start, much like the law only punishes those who actually have something to lose, or fear.

I was thinking the other day in a merge-in-turn point, I observed from about 10 or so cars back, all theh cars merging in nicely and flowing well, when a stereotype in a large black BMW two cars in front of me swerves out, cut down the outside and forced his way in, almost pushing the car that was merging into the barrier to the left.

Sad thing is, everyone that did "rise above it" only helped him along, showing him that his behavior will pay off time and time again.

Apart from the rare circumstances as the other examples here, normally any reaction will result in violence, or nothing proving that the ahole wins time and time again.

Sad really