Scamming - has it now spread to pets?
Discussion
At the moment me and the other half are looking to buy a puppy. We saw an advert for some suitable puppies and emailed asking for more details. This was the response we got from the seller named Torrence Homes(?)
Torrence Homes said:
Hello,
Thanks for the mail and your interest toward my lovely male and
female puppies. they are 11 and 14 weeks old.,vet checked, full
registered .well tamed and home trained, good associate of kids and
other house hold pets also simple to learn. To begin I will start
asking you some questions..
-Are you a breeder?
-Do you have kids?
-Are use to pets?
-Are you sure that you are going to take care of them?
-Give me a Brief Description about your Environment?
-Do you have a vet doctor?
-where are you located precisely?
-.How soon do you need the puppy(ies)?
-How many puppy do you need? A male or a female?
Am a breeder,so i am giving them out since i am about to go for
retirement and presently i am attending a breeder meeting and
check up,the meeting will last for 3months, my greatest desire is
to find someone who can properly take care of these puppies so before
going for retirement i will like to give them out and if you can
get a home for these babies,just get back to me please for more
pictures or any question
Stay Blessed and waiting for your reply.
We received the reply at 5.40am and after reading it I initially thought scam, the missus wanted to reply as she wasn't 100% sure. We replied to each question and have just received a further reply.Thanks for the mail and your interest toward my lovely male and
female puppies. they are 11 and 14 weeks old.,vet checked, full
registered .well tamed and home trained, good associate of kids and
other house hold pets also simple to learn. To begin I will start
asking you some questions..
-Are you a breeder?
-Do you have kids?
-Are use to pets?
-Are you sure that you are going to take care of them?
-Give me a Brief Description about your Environment?
-Do you have a vet doctor?
-where are you located precisely?
-.How soon do you need the puppy(ies)?
-How many puppy do you need? A male or a female?
Am a breeder,so i am giving them out since i am about to go for
retirement and presently i am attending a breeder meeting and
check up,the meeting will last for 3months, my greatest desire is
to find someone who can properly take care of these puppies so before
going for retirement i will like to give them out and if you can
get a home for these babies,just get back to me please for more
pictures or any question
Stay Blessed and waiting for your reply.
Torrence Homes said:
Hello
How are you doing again.hope fine.well i am very happy that you
really
do want to give this baby a lovely home.He does not really have
dislikes since he has been house trained and i can say he hate
been
alone at home and always like to be around kids and other house
hold
pets.He will really do make a great pet for you and more to that
he
listens to commands and will easily get used to the family.I
really do
like him around me but my job will not let me take very good care
of
him.
At the moment i am in Aberdeen, Scotland for a Breeders Club
Seminar that will last for 6months and really feel bad
when this baby is left all alone in the house due to my work
scheduled.
I am given out this baby because i am very occupied at work now
and i want
a re-home for this puppies as soon as possible for i got no time
to show him
the love and care.
I was also talking about delivery right.I am going to make
arrangements with the delivery service for the delivery of her
because
i understand the distance will be too far for you to pick up.So i
will
need to have your delivery information's like:
Your full names................
City........................... .
House address..................
Post code......................
Contact Numbers...............
As soon as i get these information,i will make all the
arrangements
with the delivery service and once i am done with that,the
delivery
service will contact you by phone or email with all the delivery
details(payment mode,arrival and departure time) for you shall be
making the payment directly to them so that they can issue you a
home
delivery card,puppy crate matriculation number and a change of
ownership documents from my names to yours to prove that you are
the
rightful owner of the puppy.
More to that,he will be coming with all his papers,health
documents and a nutrition booklet on how you will be feeding
him.get
back to me soon.He is going for £200 including home
delivery.Waiting
for details asap.
You can call me on 07031887914 for confirmation for that is my
number i am
using here o.k.
Stay Bless
How are you doing again.hope fine.well i am very happy that you
really
do want to give this baby a lovely home.He does not really have
dislikes since he has been house trained and i can say he hate
been
alone at home and always like to be around kids and other house
hold
pets.He will really do make a great pet for you and more to that
he
listens to commands and will easily get used to the family.I
really do
like him around me but my job will not let me take very good care
of
him.
At the moment i am in Aberdeen, Scotland for a Breeders Club
Seminar that will last for 6months and really feel bad
when this baby is left all alone in the house due to my work
scheduled.
I am given out this baby because i am very occupied at work now
and i want
a re-home for this puppies as soon as possible for i got no time
to show him
the love and care.
I was also talking about delivery right.I am going to make
arrangements with the delivery service for the delivery of her
because
i understand the distance will be too far for you to pick up.So i
will
need to have your delivery information's like:
Your full names................
City........................... .
House address..................
Post code......................
Contact Numbers...............
As soon as i get these information,i will make all the
arrangements
with the delivery service and once i am done with that,the
delivery
service will contact you by phone or email with all the delivery
details(payment mode,arrival and departure time) for you shall be
making the payment directly to them so that they can issue you a
home
delivery card,puppy crate matriculation number and a change of
ownership documents from my names to yours to prove that you are
the
rightful owner of the puppy.
More to that,he will be coming with all his papers,health
documents and a nutrition booklet on how you will be feeding
him.get
back to me soon.He is going for £200 including home
delivery.Waiting
for details asap.
You can call me on 07031887914 for confirmation for that is my
number i am
using here o.k.
Stay Bless
There was a news piece the other day (on Sky I think) whereby they had exposed people buying animals (dogs in this case) from illegitmate and cruel farms and then posing as genuine responsible breeders
I would say if you have a doubt walk away, there are enough genuine people out there
I would say if you have a doubt walk away, there are enough genuine people out there
Republik said:
I know it's obviously a scam, I can understand trying it with a £15,000 car, but why a £200 puppy?
I imagine they think there are more people out there they can scam for £200 Than there is for something like a car for a lot more. It doesn't really make any difference to them what they are pretending to sell as it obvioulsy never actually exists.Liszt said:
07031887914 is not a uk mobile number.
Does not sound like a serious breeder or could be a puppy farmer so scam or not, avoid.
I googled it earlier, it brings up all sorts.Does not sound like a serious breeder or could be a puppy farmer so scam or not, avoid.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=0703188...
Boston Terrier Pups, Dogue De Boardeux, Shih Tzu, even a Cockatoo. All with different emails.
Edited by Republik on Friday 13th November 14:51
Cara Van Man said:

Delivery of a puppy?
How will it come packed? Dry frozen or vacuum packed?
Is it a scam?

Yep - well known scam. Most of the pups advertised on places like Gumtree are non-existant. You will hand over money and never see a pup.
If you must buy one from a breeder, then ensure you look at the living conditions and see the parents. Make sure it is not a puppy farm.
Otherwise, get one from a rescue. There are shed loads of them. We have 9 staffies, 3 JRT x, 8 lab x collie and 5 goldie x. Three of the litters were born after the b
hes came into us. 2 of those were from the pound.
We've got a load of other young dogs too. I've just rehomed a 16 week old collie x girl.
Any particular type you are after?
If you must buy one from a breeder, then ensure you look at the living conditions and see the parents. Make sure it is not a puppy farm.
Otherwise, get one from a rescue. There are shed loads of them. We have 9 staffies, 3 JRT x, 8 lab x collie and 5 goldie x. Three of the litters were born after the b
hes came into us. 2 of those were from the pound.We've got a load of other young dogs too. I've just rehomed a 16 week old collie x girl.
Any particular type you are after?
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yet in the initial email it was a 3 month seminar! 