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fivesixseven8

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6,146 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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... really do disgust me at times...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2734668/...

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Sick

Neil H

15,418 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Nasty and unnecessary.

Although I suppose it would save you having to turn it over yourself during cooking? scratchchin

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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That does seem particularly cruel and uncalled for to be honest - it seems more of a gimmick than anything else. But then we have:

The Sun Said said:
Reports have claimed some restaurants offer monkey's brains. Other dishes include rats, dogs, snakes, lizards and baby mice.
So what? British restuarants offer live shellfish, baby cattle, juvenile sheep and marmite.
The Sun really does have some very low-brow and narrow horizons. It really is a newspaper for morons.


Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Repost: although the thread is in the Food and Drink forum.

Whilst I personally find the idea of eating or cooking anything that's alive fairly repulsive one must also balance this view with the knowledge that we have some reasonably horrible food traditions of our own.

Live Oysters, lemon, down the hatch.

Boiling Lobsters - they go in the pot alive as do shrimp, crab, mussels and clams. And so on!


Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Mr Gearchange said:
The Sun really does have some very low-brow and narrow horizons. It really is a newspaper for morons.
Whilst in no way do I wish to argue with your assessment I should also point out that the broadsheets have all run this story - including the Telegraph (which should know better).

WorAl

10,877 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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to be honest that looks like nerves to me not the fact that the fish is still alive.

I've caught a fish, killed it gutted it, cut its head off and put it on a BBQ within about 3 mins and the fking thing jumped off and into the dust on the pier.

dead fish can be made to move within about 45 mins of them being dead by running your finger along the lateral lines.

I've also seen rabbits jump 6 feet in the air after being dead for 20 mins.

All I am saying is that could have been done for effect to surprise the diners. Wet towel round its head to help it breath???? hmmmmm scratchchin more like so the skin doesnt get burnt so it looks like its alive.

Mr Gearchange said:
it seems more of a gimmick than anything else.
This ^

Edited by WorAl on Thursday 19th November 13:03

RobM77

35,349 posts

263 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Don said:
Repost: although the thread is in the Food and Drink forum.

Whilst I personally find the idea of eating or cooking anything that's alive fairly repulsive one must also balance this view with the knowledge that we have some reasonably horrible food traditions of our own.

Live Oysters, lemon, down the hatch.

Boiling Lobsters - they go in the pot alive as do shrimp, crab, mussels and clams. And so on!
To be honest that's equally as disgusting and repulsive to me. I see no difference between boiling a cat and a lobster alive, unless we get into the varying sentience of animals of course, which is a grey area I know little about. I'm happy being a meat-eater, but I'd rather the animal in question was dead before I ate it!! (unless it's Stilton of course!).

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Pearoast.

davemac250

4,499 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Whilst the story is questionable for its news content and comparisons with some practices in the UK are valid.

It is still fking grim to cook something whilst keeping it alive and then eat it.

Oh, and before anyone accuses me of being squeamish I used to kill the animals you eat!

A911DOM

4,084 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Turns my stomach this sort of thing.

Why, when preparing sushi etc do they also feel the need to start slicing bits off the thing whilst its still alive. If you're going to eat it, at least have the decency to put it out of its misery first.

Will it make any difference to its freshness having been killed a few seconds before. No. Will it still be raw. Yes.

Rank and totally unnecessary IMO.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Don said:
Mr Gearchange said:
The Sun really does have some very low-brow and narrow horizons. It really is a newspaper for morons.
Whilst in no way do I wish to argue with your assessment I should also point out that the broadsheets have all run this story - including the Telegraph (which should know better).
Yes but I'm sure the telegraph didn't write something as narrow minded in pointing out what "disgusting" things foreigners eat.

I fking hate the Sun - they should give away a large dose of ricin in each copy - that would solve a lot of the country's problems by 10am.

Edited by Mr Gearchange on Thursday 19th November 13:16

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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RobM77 said:
Don said:
Repost: although the thread is in the Food and Drink forum.

Whilst I personally find the idea of eating or cooking anything that's alive fairly repulsive one must also balance this view with the knowledge that we have some reasonably horrible food traditions of our own.

Live Oysters, lemon, down the hatch.

Boiling Lobsters - they go in the pot alive as do shrimp, crab, mussels and clams. And so on!
To be honest that's equally as disgusting and repulsive to me. I see no difference between boiling a cat and a lobster alive, unless we get into the varying sentience of animals of course, which is a grey area I know little about. I'm happy being a meat-eater, but I'd rather the animal in question was dead before I ate it!! (unless it's Stilton of course!).
You shouldn't actually boil crabs or lobsters alive anyway - they shed end up shedding their legs and claws as a (pointless in this instance) defence mechanism.
You should kill them first with either a sharp knife or a nail through their brain.
Alternatively chuck them in the freezer for a couple of hours before giving them a bath.

A911DOM

4,084 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Mr Gearchange said:
I fking hate the Sun - they should give away a large dose of ricin in each copy - that would solve a lot of the country's problems by 10am.
That'd make most of the greasy spoons a hazardous gamble for breakfast wouldn't it wink

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Mr Gearchange said:
RobM77 said:
Don said:
Repost: although the thread is in the Food and Drink forum.

Whilst I personally find the idea of eating or cooking anything that's alive fairly repulsive one must also balance this view with the knowledge that we have some reasonably horrible food traditions of our own.

Live Oysters, lemon, down the hatch.

Boiling Lobsters - they go in the pot alive as do shrimp, crab, mussels and clams. And so on!
To be honest that's equally as disgusting and repulsive to me. I see no difference between boiling a cat and a lobster alive, unless we get into the varying sentience of animals of course, which is a grey area I know little about. I'm happy being a meat-eater, but I'd rather the animal in question was dead before I ate it!! (unless it's Stilton of course!).
You shouldn't actually boil crabs or lobsters alive anyway - they shed end up shedding their legs and claws as a (pointless in this instance) defence mechanism.
You should kill them first with either a sharp knife or a nail through their brain.
Alternatively chuck them in the freezer for a couple of hours before giving them a bath.
I once watched a programme with Rachel Allen (celebrity chef). Her Lobster method was to put it into a pan of cold water. Then heat it up to boiling. This stops it from shedding it's appendages, apparently, and her claim was it was kinder to the Lobster.

I have watched a fair few cheffy programmes and none of them skewer Lobsters/Crabs prior to cooking...

BUT

There's a firm that's invented an "electrocuter" that humanely does Lobsters in. I'm told chefs are keen on this as it actually makes the Lobster taste better. Telegraph ran a story on it that I can't find at the minute.

Los Palmas 7

29,908 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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RobM77 said:
I see no difference between boiling a cat and a lobster alive
I reckon the cat would put up more of a fight.

WorAl

10,877 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Los Palmas 7 said:
RobM77 said:
I see no difference between boiling a cat and a lobster alive
I reckon the cat would put up more of a fight.
only because you would be a pansy and tie the lobster claws up

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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You need to 'cork' each of the cats claws when boiling them.
Aside from making them safer to handle the bouyancy makes them float feet upwards - making them easier to remove once done.

HTH

al1991

4,552 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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It seems a bit unnecessary that they go to the lengths of wrapping it's head up in a damp cloth to deliberately keep it alive. The laughing is a bit creepy too!

Mc lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Well, at least you can't complain that its not fresh, put that in your pipe and smoke it captain birdseye!