Dogs.......????
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i have 3 dogs ages from 11...to 6..to 11 months
all male all intact...seems to be a constant barking power struggle
which is not helped by the old dog being deaf and carnt hear the other 2 barking at him.
bark bark bark .......eh eh snap
all male all intact...seems to be a constant barking power struggle
which is not helped by the old dog being deaf and carnt hear the other 2 barking at him.
bark bark bark .......eh eh snap
Edited by Road Hog on Wednesday 2nd December 12:13
Health mainly and sometimes behaviour.
Entire males much more likely to develop prostate problems (some of which are nasty) and if still has testicles then testicular cancer which has high risk of metastasis esp to the lungs. Anal adenomas & carcinomas.
Behaviour, can reduce hypersexual behaviour, marking (some will mark inside houses) and escaping to run after b
hes in heat and occ dominance (though often fear based aggression misread as dominance, if fear based castration not the right approach) Less chance of aggression with other dogs as well esp fellow males.
Negatives, may gain weight, entire males tend to stay leaner, however reducing food intake will prevent this and can be avoided, poor excuse to blame weight gain on neutering.
Large breeds if done early may not look as masculine (ie larger head) however no reason why they won't become muscular, maybe just not as muscular.
It will not turn your dog gay or lazy.
Hope that helps. I try and keep an open mind, we see a lot of behavioural probs related to males being entire which is why vets often adv early neutering, I have seen many older entire males with none of the traits associated with being entire, however they do run a much indreased risk of health problems meaning the routine op becomes a necessity in an older male, which is never ideal and that's why I had my male whippet done at 11 months
Entire males much more likely to develop prostate problems (some of which are nasty) and if still has testicles then testicular cancer which has high risk of metastasis esp to the lungs. Anal adenomas & carcinomas.
Behaviour, can reduce hypersexual behaviour, marking (some will mark inside houses) and escaping to run after b
hes in heat and occ dominance (though often fear based aggression misread as dominance, if fear based castration not the right approach) Less chance of aggression with other dogs as well esp fellow males.Negatives, may gain weight, entire males tend to stay leaner, however reducing food intake will prevent this and can be avoided, poor excuse to blame weight gain on neutering.
Large breeds if done early may not look as masculine (ie larger head) however no reason why they won't become muscular, maybe just not as muscular.
It will not turn your dog gay or lazy.
Hope that helps. I try and keep an open mind, we see a lot of behavioural probs related to males being entire which is why vets often adv early neutering, I have seen many older entire males with none of the traits associated with being entire, however they do run a much indreased risk of health problems meaning the routine op becomes a necessity in an older male, which is never ideal and that's why I had my male whippet done at 11 months
It is reckoned to calm a dog down a bit and help make them less aggressive , etc.
They do tend to bulk out a bit after, and will put on weight more easily.
I had my male GSD done at 3 YO, mainly for the health reasons. Didnt really make much difference to him, behaviour wise. Certainly didnt stop him humping other dogs every so often! (That is a dominance thing anyway - more about the dog than his knackers!)
I think it took him about 6 months to stop looking faintly surprised every time he investigated that region!
They do tend to bulk out a bit after, and will put on weight more easily.
I had my male GSD done at 3 YO, mainly for the health reasons. Didnt really make much difference to him, behaviour wise. Certainly didnt stop him humping other dogs every so often! (That is a dominance thing anyway - more about the dog than his knackers!)
I think it took him about 6 months to stop looking faintly surprised every time he investigated that region!
Good informative post as always from Becks 
Being involved with dog rescue I cannot help but be pro neutering. We have recently taken in 3 pregnant bhes from the pound, who have now all had their pups. All will be 8 weeks old around Christmas time - joy 
. We have also taken in two more litters of pups. All of these were accidental litters. Add to that all the 'usual' on death row in the pound.....
As well as the obvious not adding to the unwanted dog population (and it's the only 100% sure way to do this) there can be health and behavioural benefits as already said by Becks. Your entire male will not take out its sexual frustration on everything else when he gets a whiff of an in season bh, neither will he run off trying to find her. I know of one family whose Lab was killed on a dual-carriageway for that very reason . They'd had the dog for years and he'd never run off before.
Neutering does not change the personality of a dog, but it can make him easier to live with. I also think it's unkind for him to have to live with all that testosterone and sexual frustration with no outlet for it.
There are some arguments to suggest that large breeds should be left entire until fully mature, but we neuter all our dogs at six months old.
Being involved with dog rescue I cannot help but be pro neutering. We have recently taken in 3 pregnant b
hes from the pound, who have now all had their pups. All will be 8 weeks old around Christmas time - joy . We have also taken in two more litters of pups. All of these were accidental litters. Add to that all the 'usual' on death row in the pound.....As well as the obvious not adding to the unwanted dog population (and it's the only 100% sure way to do this) there can be health and behavioural benefits as already said by Becks. Your entire male will not take out its sexual frustration on everything else when he gets a whiff of an in season b
h, neither will he run off trying to find her. I know of one family whose Lab was killed on a dual-carriageway for that very reason . They'd had the dog for years and he'd never run off before.Neutering does not change the personality of a dog, but it can make him easier to live with. I also think it's unkind for him to have to live with all that testosterone and sexual frustration with no outlet for it.
There are some arguments to suggest that large breeds should be left entire until fully mature, but we neuter all our dogs at six months old.
Mrs Grumpy said:
Good informative post as always from Becks
Being involved with dog rescue I cannot help but be pro neutering. We have recently taken in 3 pregnant bhes from the pound, who have now all had their pups. All will be 8 weeks old around Christmas time - joy . We have also taken in two more litters of pups. All of these were accidental litters. Add to that all the 'usual' on death row in the pound.....
As well as the obvious not adding to the unwanted dog population (and it's the only 100% sure way to do this) there can be health and behavioural benefits as already said by Becks. Your entire male will not take out its sexual frustration on everything else when he gets a whiff of an in season bh, neither will he run off trying to find her. I know of one family whose Lab was killed on a dual-carriageway for that very reason . They'd had the dog for years and he'd never run off before.
Neutering does not change the personality of a dog, but it can make him easier to live with. I also think it's unkind for him to have to live with all that testosterone and sexual frustration with no outlet for it.
There are some arguments to suggest that large breeds should be left entire until fully mature, but we neuter all our dogs at six months old.
Thanks Mrs G Being involved with dog rescue I cannot help but be pro neutering. We have recently taken in 3 pregnant b
hes from the pound, who have now all had their pups. All will be 8 weeks old around Christmas time - joy . We have also taken in two more litters of pups. All of these were accidental litters. Add to that all the 'usual' on death row in the pound.....As well as the obvious not adding to the unwanted dog population (and it's the only 100% sure way to do this) there can be health and behavioural benefits as already said by Becks. Your entire male will not take out its sexual frustration on everything else when he gets a whiff of an in season b
h, neither will he run off trying to find her. I know of one family whose Lab was killed on a dual-carriageway for that very reason . They'd had the dog for years and he'd never run off before.Neutering does not change the personality of a dog, but it can make him easier to live with. I also think it's unkind for him to have to live with all that testosterone and sexual frustration with no outlet for it.
There are some arguments to suggest that large breeds should be left entire until fully mature, but we neuter all our dogs at six months old.
but I did forget to point out the obvious re: unwanted pups, which is a huge huge problem., plus neutering at 6 months rules out the chance of an owner leaving it too long when a behavioural problem has already set in so less chance of sorting problem with neutering lone, prevention is better in most cases.My friend has a Rottweiler. He used to be aggressive towards other dogs but OK with bhes, barked a fair amount and would always seek to be pack leader.
He has had his nuts lopped off and since then (about 3 years) he is aggresive towards other dogs but OK with bhes, barks a fair amount and always seeks to be pack leader. But at least he won't sire any puppies now!
hes, barked a fair amount and would always seek to be pack leader.He has had his nuts lopped off and since then (about 3 years) he is aggresive towards other dogs but OK with b
hes, barks a fair amount and always seeks to be pack leader. But at least he won't sire any puppies now! Road Hog said:
Snoop Bagg said:
It's almost like removing part of yourself!
thats exactly how it feels....all 3 are Gordon Setters.....
but the way they go on you would think they were "pitbulls"
There are lots of people though, misguided into doing it i.e. being told to do get it done to stop aggression, but aggression comes from fear rather than testosterone. The only other reasons are to stop accidental mating and if there are cancer or prostate concerns. I've taken this from the interweb about when it needs doing if it's due to behaviour:
"When Males exhibit behaviours which are influenced by testosterone, such as scent marking, roaming away from home to find potential mates, inappropriate sexual behaviour, aggression towards other males, and sometimes competitive aggression towards humans."
Snoop Bagg said:
Road Hog said:
Snoop Bagg said:
It's almost like removing part of yourself!
thats exactly how it feels....all 3 are Gordon Setters.....
but the way they go on you would think they were "pitbulls"
There are lots of people though, misguided into doing it i.e. being told to do get it done to stop aggression, but aggression comes from fear rather than testosterone. The only other reasons are to stop accidental mating and if there are cancer or prostate concerns. I've taken this from the interweb about when it needs doing if it's due to behaviour:
"When Males exhibit behaviours which are influenced by testosterone, such as scent marking, roaming away from home to find potential mates, inappropriate sexual behaviour, aggression towards other males, and sometimes competitive aggression towards humans."
And some aggression IS due to testosterone it just has to be realised that it can be fear based as well so castration not always the answer for aggression based behaviour.
All 3 of my dogs are neutered, two boys and a girl - it is a much simpler more straightforward op for the boys. Our bulldog was done at 8 months, as it can take them a little longer to recover if they have the op done when they are older/more mature (our boxer was 3 years old when my hubby finally agreed to the deed being done).
From the research I did the positives seemed to outweigh the negatives & I personally believe it helps keep the harmony in a multi-dog household.
From the research I did the positives seemed to outweigh the negatives & I personally believe it helps keep the harmony in a multi-dog household.
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