TV Licence Detector Vans....
TV Licence Detector Vans....
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st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

211 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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....yeah right.

Does anyone actually believe that there's actually any technology in these vans beyond going through lists of TV sales and random door knocking on property's with aerials on the roof.....for that matter does anyone know anyone who's been caught?

soad

34,663 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Haven't actually seen one yet (despite their ads).

Mate (student) got caught as answered the door whilst TV was on. Only had to pay the TV Licence fee.

deevlash

10,442 posts

267 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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do they still exist? surely if they turn up you just say "warrant? no? go away"

That said I pay my licence fee, radio 4 and the website are worth it.

mel

10,168 posts

305 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Yes, I used to work with a guy who had been at the Grundig factory in Gosport (now closed) he'd been a design engineer on the team that made the detectors, his description was a handheld device about the size of a shoebox that could detect the "sidelobes" (whatever the hell they are) from a CRT, he said they could even tell which channel you were watching. But mind you this was about 10 years ago when CRT tv's were the norm and he did say that they couldn't detect flatscreens or laptops with a TV card so I guess that now days where every council house in the country has a 50" plasma from Brighthouse unless the detection technology has improved then there's not alot of detecting going on.

philthy

4,697 posts

270 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I believe there were very few of them that actually had any detection equipment in.
They used to work by detecting the spurious emissions from the line output transformer (lopty to those in the trade), but modern TVs don't have them any more.
There were some hilarious vans about though, with huge lettering on the side, frightening those without licences into getting one.
Nowadays of course, it is a database, and a knock on the door. Usually, with a peek through the window/letterbox first I'm sure?

Edit to add:

Have a look at this rofl



Edited by philthy on Monday 7th December 16:11

Frankeh

12,558 posts

215 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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You don't even have to let them into your house. I see no point getting a license since there is pretty much nothing they can do about it.
When they send me a big red letter with big bold writing I might suddenly feel like owning a TV and paying TV license.
Until then, meh.

Anyone who replies to this is trolling themselves.

OzCupra

152 posts

208 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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However they detect these days I'm told that unless they actually get in to your house and see the TV themselves they can't fine you..


Los Palmas 7

29,908 posts

260 months

Rach*

8,824 posts

246 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I bought a TV yesterday, I wasn't allowed to leave the shop until I'd filled in my name and address for the TV licensing people. rolleyes

Of course I gave them the correct information.

soad

34,663 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Believe that's a standard procedure now, Rach.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

211 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I dont have an issue with the licence fee and have it all on direct debit. I just never took the detector van spiel remotely seriously and was wondering if that was the norm...

Shinobi

5,129 posts

220 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Why would anyone not pay it? It's piss all money

Rach*

8,824 posts

246 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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soad said:
Believe that's a standard procedure now, Rach.
Yes it is, last time I was hassled by the TVL for months and months even though I had a licence. I eventually I had to threaten them with legal action to stop sending letters.
So they can ps off if they think I'm volunteering info.



(it's been a hard day)

Frankeh

12,558 posts

215 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Shinobi said:
Why would anyone not pay it? It's piss all money
It's the one tax I can get away eaily without paying, so I do.
FIGHT THE POWER!

zac510

5,546 posts

236 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Why pay? It's piss all money!

mel

10,168 posts

305 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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Rach* said:
soad said:
Believe that's a standard procedure now, Rach.
Yes it is, last time I was hassled by the TVL for months and months even though I had a licence. I eventually I had to threaten them with legal action to stop sending letters.
So they can ps off if they think I'm volunteering info.



(it's been a hard day)
It's always fun when you order a new telly and get it delivered to your work address simply for convienience, if you order on line they simply supply the delivery address which in my case has no licence because we don't have a telly there (well actually we normally have a few samples of sony's latest offerings because we make all the shop displays for them but we've no aerial or sat dish) we've had more and more threatening letters which are obviously all filed in the big round cabinet, the day they turn up is the day they'll be physically ejected from the premises.

Edited by mel on Monday 7th December 17:49

dpbird90

5,535 posts

220 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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I heard that they have to give you two weeks notice of them coming to pay you a visit. To be honest, if you can't hide an aerial well enough in that time, there's something wrong there. Thing is, as a student, they hassle me even more, although I had told them I have no TV. One of the letters they sent to our flat said "...We know 99% of students own a laptop and watch TV on it..."

The source? A survey of 400 students from THE SAME UNIVERSITY!

It also states that students don't need a licence if the thing they're using to watch TV on is powered by its own batteries (if mum and dad have a tv licence at home) which is the stupidest thing they could have written. Surely, the thing to do if they come knocking is to simply unplug the laptop? It is running on its own battery, so it doesn't contravene (sp?) the rules.

I've heard if they find the equipment to receive TV in your home, they can take you to court over it. Therefore, on the same principle, they'd best charge me with rape at the same time. I have the equipment to do that.

Wacky Racer

41,354 posts

277 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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philthy said:
I believe there were very few of them that actually had any detection equipment in.
They used to work by detecting the spurious emissions from the line output transformer (lopty to those in the trade), but modern TVs don't have them any more.
There were some hilarious vans about though, with huge lettering on the side, frightening those without licences into getting one.
Nowadays of course, it is a database, and a knock on the door. Usually, with a peek through the window/letterbox first I'm sure?

Edit to add:

Have a look at this rofl

I'll raise you this......


Wacky Racer

41,354 posts

277 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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mel said:
Yes, I used to work with a guy who had been at the Grundig factory in Gosport (now closed) he'd been a design engineer on the team that made the detectors, his description was a handheld device about the size of a shoebox that could detect the "sidelobes" (whatever the hell they are) from a CRT, he said they could even tell which channel you were watching. But mind you this was about 10 years ago when CRT tv's were the norm and he did say that they couldn't detect flatscreens or laptops with a TV card so I guess that now days where every council house in the country has a 50" plasma from Brighthouse unless the detection technology has improved then there's not alot of detecting going on.
laugh

BarnatosGhost

34,152 posts

283 months

Monday 7th December 2009
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detector van evidence has never been used in court. The bbc refuse to reveal the technology so it's inadmissable. Actually, it's a scandalous fiction based on scaring wallies.