Enviromental Enforcement Officer
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Most councils have local laws that relate to the dropping of litter, dog poo, chewing gum, fly-tipping, etc. These all carry fines (and in some cases imprisonment). Most, if not all of these laws, most people support but very rarely is anyone brought to book for offending.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
ZR1cliff said:
Can they handle a shovel and lay grit?
Good point.There would be lot less litter if the government was actually serious about recycling. In the states the Homeless pick up cans and bottles and the government buy's them for a nickel a peice (a while back).
This country is all stick and no carrot. We need new idea's not new law enforcers.
I am so glad I did not see this myself.
Simple reason being is, being self-employed that if I don't work, I don't get paid.
Had I seen this while walking around town, I would have had to have pointed and laughed while following him or her around, for the remainder of the day. It would probably cause an injury for laughing so hard, but it would be almost worth that, and the lack of income.
Seriously, what sort of a f
kwit applies for, or "enforces" st like this...
And could you dare speak about it to your mates in the pub afterwards.
"What do you do"
"I am a carpet cleaner"
"Oh, I am a Senior Grade 3 Environmental Enforcement Officer"
Simple reason being is, being self-employed that if I don't work, I don't get paid.
Had I seen this while walking around town, I would have had to have pointed and laughed while following him or her around, for the remainder of the day. It would probably cause an injury for laughing so hard, but it would be almost worth that, and the lack of income.
Seriously, what sort of a f
kwit applies for, or "enforces" st like this...And could you dare speak about it to your mates in the pub afterwards.
"What do you do"
"I am a carpet cleaner"
- waits until everyone stops laughing**
"Oh, I am a Senior Grade 3 Environmental Enforcement Officer"
- Punch in the face**
StevieBee said:
Most councils have local laws that relate to the dropping of litter, dog poo, chewing gum, fly-tipping, etc. These all carry fines (and in some cases imprisonment). Most, if not all of these laws, most people support but very rarely is anyone brought to book for offending.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
Exactly. Despite the slightly ludicrous job title these people do perform a useful social function. Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
Hedders said:
ZR1cliff said:
Can they handle a shovel and lay grit?
Good point.There would be lot less litter if the government was actually serious about recycling. In the states the Homeless pick up cans and bottles and the government buy's them for a nickel a peice (a while back).
This country is all stick and no carrot. We need new idea's not new law enforcers.
A case in question was parking in a council car park yesterday - no grafters to shift the ice or grit the paths, but a council car park warden was snooping to make sure everyone had bought a ticket, ha.
Bill Carr said:
Exactly. Despite the slightly ludicrous job title these people do perform a useful social function.
I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
The main problem I have with them, is that they are dressed (round here, at least) in uniforms resembling the police.I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
StevieBee said:
Most councils have local laws that relate to the dropping of litter, dog poo, chewing gum, fly-tipping, etc. These all carry fines (and in some cases imprisonment). Most, if not all of these laws, most people support but very rarely is anyone brought to book for offending.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
No it isn't.Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
It is about the council realising that they can exploit this as a source of revenue. Believe me they would not be interested at all if there was no money in it for them.
Never the less, if it means people who drop Macky D wrappers out of car windows getting fined I am all for it
Edited by Astacus on Wednesday 23 December 18:36
Edited by Astacus on Wednesday 23 December 18:37
PeteG said:
Bill Carr said:
Exactly. Despite the slightly ludicrous job title these people do perform a useful social function.
I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
The main problem I have with them, is that they are dressed (round here, at least) in uniforms resembling the police.I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
But I expect more and more of these types of people to get the s**t kicked out of them when they get shirty with the chavs.
Jasandjules said:
PeteG said:
Bill Carr said:
Exactly. Despite the slightly ludicrous job title these people do perform a useful social function.
I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
The main problem I have with them, is that they are dressed (round here, at least) in uniforms resembling the police.I know of several ex-police doing this sort of work. Apparently you have to be ok with confrontation...
But I expect more and more of these types of people to get the s**t kicked out of them when they get shirty with the chavs.
Astacus said:
StevieBee said:
Most councils have local laws that relate to the dropping of litter, dog poo, chewing gum, fly-tipping, etc. These all carry fines (and in some cases imprisonment). Most, if not all of these laws, most people support but very rarely is anyone brought to book for offending.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
No it isn't. It is about the council realising that they can exploit this as a source of revenue. Believe me they would not be interested at all if there was no money in it for them. Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
There's nothing worse than socialists trying behaving like capitalists...
Simpo Two said:
Astacus said:
StevieBee said:
Most councils have local laws that relate to the dropping of litter, dog poo, chewing gum, fly-tipping, etc. These all carry fines (and in some cases imprisonment). Most, if not all of these laws, most people support but very rarely is anyone brought to book for offending.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
No it isn't. It is about the council realising that they can exploit this as a source of revenue. Believe me they would not be interested at all if there was no money in it for them. Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
There's nothing worse than socialists trying behaving like capitalists...
The real problem is of course if the council purposely restrict parking unreasonably inorder to screw people over in fees and encourage illegal parking - which i believe our council is doing.
Edited by Mojooo on Wednesday 23 December 20:00
Mojooo said:
Simpo Two said:
Astacus said:
StevieBee said:
Most councils have local laws that relate to the dropping of litter, dog poo, chewing gum, fly-tipping, etc. These all carry fines (and in some cases imprisonment). Most, if not all of these laws, most people support but very rarely is anyone brought to book for offending.
Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
No it isn't. It is about the council realising that they can exploit this as a source of revenue. Believe me they would not be interested at all if there was no money in it for them. Because of the way these laws are written, it doesn't always fall under the jurisdiction of the local police.
Many councils therefore employ wardens who do have powers to issue fixed penalty notices as well as report any issues than need attending to.
It's not about being Orwellian but about a council finally doing something about a problem that affects everybody.
There's nothing worse than socialists trying behaving like capitalists...
The real problem is of course if the council purposely restrict parking unreasonably inorder to screw people over in fees and encourage illegal parking - which i believe our council is doing.
Edited by Mojooo on Wednesday 23 December 20:00
ks sake they could have towed it out the way instead of immobilising it where it is "causing an obstruction"Most council low level enforcement operators are simply
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