Should I claim ?
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douglasr

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1,092 posts

302 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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We have had a lot of snow in central Scotland and our ever efficient councils are concentrating on keeping major routes open (fair enough). I've been staying off the roads because they are as slippery as a slippery thing and walk to the station to get my train into Edinburgh.
Today I took my time going down the steps at the station and went flying on black ice - no grit has been put there in days (if ever) and the only way to get down the stairs was by my method of falling down them, or like a kid - one at a time.
I phoned the council to ask them to put salt on the stairs before someone gets seriously hurt (I have a black and blue arse, a sore back and a slight whiplash) and they asked me if I wanted a claim form (in Scotland I believe councils have a duty of care). Since I go to a Chiropractor for my dodgy back, I though I may as well, in case I wake up crippled tomorrow.

So, do I send in a form and join in with Claim culture Britain, or do I take some codeine, and put up and shut up?

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Given someone died thanks to a similar situation at Waverley, I'd be on at them to get it sorted, tbh

(or possibly be dumping a bagful of salt on it myself)

Edited by Famous Graham on Tuesday 29th December 14:49

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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BIt of a weird question.
What is to claim for in the circumstances you describe?
YOu haven't been hurt have you?

As I understood it you claim damages/expenses caused by the negligence of others?
How have you incurred any?

It seems that you are asking whether you should commit fraud, to which the answer is no.

...Mole...

2,780 posts

221 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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The pavements in Aberdeen have been terrible as well, its ridiculous.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

272 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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blindswelledrat said:
BIt of a weird question.
What is to claim for in the circumstances you describe?
YOu haven't been hurt have you?

As I understood it you claim damages/expenses caused by the negligence of others?
How have you incurred any?

It seems that you are asking whether you should commit fraud, to which the answer is no.
Read the OP again.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
Read the OP again.
Bruising and 'whiplash'?
I understood that he was considering claiming for chiropractors sessions that he already had.
Have I misread something?

pits

6,704 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Normally I would be in the "Its your own fault for not paying attention to the surroundings and taking a bit more care and using some common sens brigade, but if you already have a bad back and this could potentially make it worse and leave you out of pocket, then I would say yes, at least you did the good thing and informed them aswell.

Galileo

3,147 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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blindswelledrat said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Read the OP again.
Bruising and 'whiplash'?
I understood that he was considering claiming for chiropractors sessions that he already had.
Have I misread something?
No you haven't.


Galileo

3,147 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Silly idea, I know, but when I was suffering from a bad back I used to use the hand rails.

Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Edinburgh council are just a joke full stop. I got a parking ticket today at 14:23, my ticket doesnt run out until 15:01. Sorry, what?

Good Luck if you get anything but I don't think you will.

Jasandjules

72,607 posts

259 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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It's up to you really. Can you be bothered? I would personally say wait and see how badly you are affected by this, if it's just some bruising then put it down to experience BUT if it's a substantial increase in your already bad back symptoms then do.

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Jasandjules said:
It's up to you really. Can you be bothered? I would personally say wait and see how badly you are affected by this, if it's just some bruising then put it down to experience BUT if it's a substantial increase in your already bad back symptoms then do.
Best answersmile

douglasr

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

302 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Galileo said:
Silly idea, I know, but when I was suffering from a bad back I used to use the hand rails.
Not if the handrail is on one side only and its covered in ice.

douglasr

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

302 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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Halb said:
Jasandjules said:
It's up to you really. Can you be bothered? I would personally say wait and see how badly you are affected by this, if it's just some bruising then put it down to experience BUT if it's a substantial increase in your already bad back symptoms then do.
Best answersmile
Agreed. since I was digging snow today, there is no damage done, just a sore back and a sore neck.

I will be going back to the Chiropractor, not because its an opportunity to commit "fraud", but because I go every couple of months to make sure I dont have a serious episode.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

220 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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...Mole... said:
The pavements in Aberdeen have been terrible as well, its ridiculous.
Are they still bad then? I left on December 20th, the cobbled streets around the uni were a deathtrap, and our halls car park was doubling as an ice rink.

chimera40

7,259 posts

207 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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The situation around most towns in Scotland is completely outrageous. Only the major roads have been gritted, all paths and minor street are just sheets of ice. many many complaints have went into my council in North Ayrshire only to be followed by the excuse that they have no budget to treat the paths or minor roads.

This has caused chaos and has trapped many people in doors, if you do go out you are forced to walk on the road as the paths are un-walkable. It really is a sorry state of affairs. There have now been many many injuries and a couple of deaths due to untreated paths and still the councils are ignoring it.

If they are now flooded with injury claims they have no one to blame but themselves, unfortunately it will come out of our pocket. No doubt once the NHS and compensation bills are added up the cost of gritting would be far far less to say nothing of the cost to industry and retail in lost revenue from people unable to move around the streets.

Disgusted, Scotland smile

standfree93

3,001 posts

217 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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dpbird90 said:
...Mole... said:
The pavements in Aberdeen have been terrible as well, its ridiculous.
Are they still bad then? I left on December 20th, the cobbled streets around the uni were a deathtrap, and our halls car park was doubling as an ice rink.
They're horrible, I've been walking on the streets. Today a car came along so I moved onto the path, only to slip and fall over a wall into someones garden. Then later was walking down a hill and slipped again, it was a fairly average hill, but after falling I slid down it. Was pretty sore and scary.

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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People who know me know my views on this.

By even considering making a claim, you are no better than the parasites that are slowly killing this country with the "free" money.

It would not even cross my mind in the first place. Ever.

That, is what makes me better than the parasites.

My grandfather died very recently, and after the funeral service I met up with a lot of his friends, and family that I had not been in contact with for a long time. Hearing with what they had to put up with when they were growing up, without "claiming" for the slightest thing, really makes you realise what you have now is very special. Walking in snow waist deep (I have seen the pictures), having to walk miles and miles in snow and sometimes falling into snowdrifts, driving on crap roads with primitive cars. My own mother in her childhood slipped on some ice and broke a tooth. Did she sue? No. Would she ever? No. HER FAULT. HER PROBLEM. SHE DEALT WITH IT.

I wish anyone that makes an unjustified compensation claim pestilence, famine and hatred. And no, slipping over on a surface that is icy, therefore YOU need to take more care, is NOT justified.

Personal responsibility. Where did it go.

I make no apologies for the harsh nature of my post.

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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[quote=chimera40]

If they are now flooded with injury claims they have no one to blame but themselves,/quote]

Wrong. The people who are injured have no one to blame but themselves. It is very simple.

The Fly Fisher

205 posts

218 months

Wednesday 30th December 2009
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I think you're being a bit unfair.

I live in Edinburgh and I assume the OP is talking about Waverley Steps to Princes Street? If so, what's the problem? I'd say two-thirds of the steps are totally clear. Stay away from the edges and you'll be fine.

Pavements around Bruntsfield, West End, New Town, Trinity, city centre are all reasonably clear and safe. I don't understand your gripe. To be fair, I can't vouch for other parts of Edinburgh.

Just watch your step and take it easy, you'll be fine. You can't expect every square inch of pavement to be clear. And by the way, next time you complain about council services, amenities, council tax cost, etc., just remember people like YOU lodging complaints and seeking monetary compensation are draining council resources and wasting funding.