Should I claim ?
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We have had a lot of snow in central Scotland and our ever efficient councils are concentrating on keeping major routes open (fair enough). I've been staying off the roads because they are as slippery as a slippery thing and walk to the station to get my train into Edinburgh.
Today I took my time going down the steps at the station and went flying on black ice - no grit has been put there in days (if ever) and the only way to get down the stairs was by my method of falling down them, or like a kid - one at a time.
I phoned the council to ask them to put salt on the stairs before someone gets seriously hurt (I have a black and blue arse, a sore back and a slight whiplash) and they asked me if I wanted a claim form (in Scotland I believe councils have a duty of care). Since I go to a Chiropractor for my dodgy back, I though I may as well, in case I wake up crippled tomorrow.
So, do I send in a form and join in with Claim culture Britain, or do I take some codeine, and put up and shut up?
Today I took my time going down the steps at the station and went flying on black ice - no grit has been put there in days (if ever) and the only way to get down the stairs was by my method of falling down them, or like a kid - one at a time.
I phoned the council to ask them to put salt on the stairs before someone gets seriously hurt (I have a black and blue arse, a sore back and a slight whiplash) and they asked me if I wanted a claim form (in Scotland I believe councils have a duty of care). Since I go to a Chiropractor for my dodgy back, I though I may as well, in case I wake up crippled tomorrow.
So, do I send in a form and join in with Claim culture Britain, or do I take some codeine, and put up and shut up?
BIt of a weird question.
What is to claim for in the circumstances you describe?
YOu haven't been hurt have you?
As I understood it you claim damages/expenses caused by the negligence of others?
How have you incurred any?
It seems that you are asking whether you should commit fraud, to which the answer is no.
What is to claim for in the circumstances you describe?
YOu haven't been hurt have you?
As I understood it you claim damages/expenses caused by the negligence of others?
How have you incurred any?
It seems that you are asking whether you should commit fraud, to which the answer is no.
blindswelledrat said:
BIt of a weird question.
What is to claim for in the circumstances you describe?
YOu haven't been hurt have you?
As I understood it you claim damages/expenses caused by the negligence of others?
How have you incurred any?
It seems that you are asking whether you should commit fraud, to which the answer is no.
Read the OP again.What is to claim for in the circumstances you describe?
YOu haven't been hurt have you?
As I understood it you claim damages/expenses caused by the negligence of others?
How have you incurred any?
It seems that you are asking whether you should commit fraud, to which the answer is no.
Normally I would be in the "Its your own fault for not paying attention to the surroundings and taking a bit more care and using some common sens brigade, but if you already have a bad back and this could potentially make it worse and leave you out of pocket, then I would say yes, at least you did the good thing and informed them aswell.
Halb said:
Jasandjules said:
It's up to you really. Can you be bothered? I would personally say wait and see how badly you are affected by this, if it's just some bruising then put it down to experience BUT if it's a substantial increase in your already bad back symptoms then do.
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I will be going back to the Chiropractor, not because its an opportunity to commit "fraud", but because I go every couple of months to make sure I dont have a serious episode.
The situation around most towns in Scotland is completely outrageous. Only the major roads have been gritted, all paths and minor street are just sheets of ice. many many complaints have went into my council in North Ayrshire only to be followed by the excuse that they have no budget to treat the paths or minor roads.
This has caused chaos and has trapped many people in doors, if you do go out you are forced to walk on the road as the paths are un-walkable. It really is a sorry state of affairs. There have now been many many injuries and a couple of deaths due to untreated paths and still the councils are ignoring it.
If they are now flooded with injury claims they have no one to blame but themselves, unfortunately it will come out of our pocket. No doubt once the NHS and compensation bills are added up the cost of gritting would be far far less to say nothing of the cost to industry and retail in lost revenue from people unable to move around the streets.
Disgusted, Scotland
This has caused chaos and has trapped many people in doors, if you do go out you are forced to walk on the road as the paths are un-walkable. It really is a sorry state of affairs. There have now been many many injuries and a couple of deaths due to untreated paths and still the councils are ignoring it.
If they are now flooded with injury claims they have no one to blame but themselves, unfortunately it will come out of our pocket. No doubt once the NHS and compensation bills are added up the cost of gritting would be far far less to say nothing of the cost to industry and retail in lost revenue from people unable to move around the streets.
Disgusted, Scotland

dpbird90 said:
...Mole... said:
The pavements in Aberdeen have been terrible as well, its ridiculous.
Are they still bad then? I left on December 20th, the cobbled streets around the uni were a deathtrap, and our halls car park was doubling as an ice rink.People who know me know my views on this.
By even considering making a claim, you are no better than the parasites that are slowly killing this country with the "free" money.
It would not even cross my mind in the first place. Ever.
That, is what makes me better than the parasites.
My grandfather died very recently, and after the funeral service I met up with a lot of his friends, and family that I had not been in contact with for a long time. Hearing with what they had to put up with when they were growing up, without "claiming" for the slightest thing, really makes you realise what you have now is very special. Walking in snow waist deep (I have seen the pictures), having to walk miles and miles in snow and sometimes falling into snowdrifts, driving on crap roads with primitive cars. My own mother in her childhood slipped on some ice and broke a tooth. Did she sue? No. Would she ever? No. HER FAULT. HER PROBLEM. SHE DEALT WITH IT.
I wish anyone that makes an unjustified compensation claim pestilence, famine and hatred. And no, slipping over on a surface that is icy, therefore YOU need to take more care, is NOT justified.
Personal responsibility. Where did it go.
I make no apologies for the harsh nature of my post.
By even considering making a claim, you are no better than the parasites that are slowly killing this country with the "free" money.
It would not even cross my mind in the first place. Ever.
That, is what makes me better than the parasites.
My grandfather died very recently, and after the funeral service I met up with a lot of his friends, and family that I had not been in contact with for a long time. Hearing with what they had to put up with when they were growing up, without "claiming" for the slightest thing, really makes you realise what you have now is very special. Walking in snow waist deep (I have seen the pictures), having to walk miles and miles in snow and sometimes falling into snowdrifts, driving on crap roads with primitive cars. My own mother in her childhood slipped on some ice and broke a tooth. Did she sue? No. Would she ever? No. HER FAULT. HER PROBLEM. SHE DEALT WITH IT.
I wish anyone that makes an unjustified compensation claim pestilence, famine and hatred. And no, slipping over on a surface that is icy, therefore YOU need to take more care, is NOT justified.
Personal responsibility. Where did it go.
I make no apologies for the harsh nature of my post.
I think you're being a bit unfair.
I live in Edinburgh and I assume the OP is talking about Waverley Steps to Princes Street? If so, what's the problem? I'd say two-thirds of the steps are totally clear. Stay away from the edges and you'll be fine.
Pavements around Bruntsfield, West End, New Town, Trinity, city centre are all reasonably clear and safe. I don't understand your gripe. To be fair, I can't vouch for other parts of Edinburgh.
Just watch your step and take it easy, you'll be fine. You can't expect every square inch of pavement to be clear. And by the way, next time you complain about council services, amenities, council tax cost, etc., just remember people like YOU lodging complaints and seeking monetary compensation are draining council resources and wasting funding.
I live in Edinburgh and I assume the OP is talking about Waverley Steps to Princes Street? If so, what's the problem? I'd say two-thirds of the steps are totally clear. Stay away from the edges and you'll be fine.
Pavements around Bruntsfield, West End, New Town, Trinity, city centre are all reasonably clear and safe. I don't understand your gripe. To be fair, I can't vouch for other parts of Edinburgh.
Just watch your step and take it easy, you'll be fine. You can't expect every square inch of pavement to be clear. And by the way, next time you complain about council services, amenities, council tax cost, etc., just remember people like YOU lodging complaints and seeking monetary compensation are draining council resources and wasting funding.
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