Sick Notes - do people work anymore?
Sick Notes - do people work anymore?
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g3org3y

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22,014 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Starting to annoy me and yesterday was a particular ball ache. ranting

Everyone in this area is apparently 'depressed' or has 'back pain'. rolleyes

Bunch of work shy s the lot of them from what I've observed. Come in to see me with only one agenda - the sick note - and if they don't get it, all hell breaks loose.

Yesterday I had a sick note request (in broken English) for...

"doctor, I only have bike and my leg hurts to cycle to work, it is also raining" - fk off.

"doctor, it is my first period in 1.5 years after birth of child - I cannot work as going to toilet all the time" - fk off.

My particular favourite is the sick note in advance as though the scum have already decided they don't want to work for the next 2-3 months and have made plans.

And it's not just the white trash that love the 'sick note special', the Nigerians and the Polish are big fans - if you don't given them one, you are proclaimed as racist! There is a massive group out there who are essentially 'professional scroungers/skivers'. rolleyes

Can one blame them? In a society where having a job and paying taxes makes you barely better off than 'being on the sick' - why bother? Self respect? bks to that if you can get free cash...


First patient today wants 24th Jan - 25th Feb off owing to "headaches, back pains and cold" (love the advanced planning!). shoot

Penny-lope

13,645 posts

214 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I am off work today frown

....been up most of the night with stomach cramps, and couldn't get my arse off the toilet for several hours.

Does that count?

g3org3y

Original Poster:

22,014 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Penny-lope said:
I am off work today frown

....been up most of the night with stomach cramps, and couldn't get my arse off the toilet for several hours.

Does that count?
Self certify for a week and then come back and see me. smile

madrob6

3,594 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I did my ankle in years ago whilst working at Halfords (a job where I had to walk around the shop floor) and they wouldn't give me the evening off (only had to work 3 hours that day) without a sick note. Doctors wouldn't give me one and told me I'd have to sign myself off for a week. I didn't want a bloody week off just the evening so I could regain the ability to walk again.

Now I have the ability to work from home I can't remember the last time I had a day off due to sickness, I just work from home instead.

anonymous-user

75 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I know what you mean, the last place i worked at, one of the dozy witches i worked with apparently fell over on the beach at skegvegas(trying to avoid getting wet in the sea) and at last count, had been off work for 6 months due to back pain. Doesnt stop the skiving bh driving 6 miles to asda, hefting a full shopping trolley round the store, and into her car, but she cant work as she has a bad back. I have a bad back you silly tart, but that doesnt stop me from shifting stuff around, or in the case of the boss at said firm, making me do all the fking donkey work, whilst lasses get away with murderranting

Don

28,378 posts

305 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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g3org3y said:
Starting to annoy me and yesterday was a particular ball ache. ranting

Everyone in this area is apparently 'depressed' or has 'back pain'. rolleyes

Bunch of work shy s the lot of them from what I've observed. Come in to see me with only one agenda - the sick note - and if they don't get it, all hell breaks loose.

Yesterday I had a sick note request (in broken English) for...

"doctor, I only have bike and my leg hurts to cycle to work, it is also raining" - fk off.

"doctor, it is my first period in 1.5 years after birth of child - I cannot work as going to toilet all the time" - fk off.

My particular favourite is the sick note in advance as though the scum have already decided they don't want to work for the next 2-3 months and have made plans.

And it's not just the white trash that love the 'sick note special', the Nigerians and the Polish are big fans - if you don't given them one, you are proclaimed as racist! There is a massive group out there who are essentially 'professional scroungers/skivers'. rolleyes

Can one blame them? In a society where having a job and paying taxes makes you barely better off than 'being on the sick' - why bother? Self respect? bks to that if you can get free cash...


First patient today wants 24th Jan - 25th Feb off owing to "headaches, back pains and cold" (love the advanced planning!). shoot
Doc, rest assured, we love your attitude. Sick notes for the genuinely sick is just fine with us. I hope, as a profession, all our GPs take a stand like you.

Dupont666

22,466 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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so normal every day things then.... let me see:

headache... check due to the lack of sleep on my deadline
cold... check had that one for 3 weeks and only just getting rid of that one
back ache... damn, didnt get the full house

By any chance are all these people you see in meaningless factory/mundane work and have nothing to challenge them? I presume they have to tell you their job so that someone with an ingrowing nail cant claim sick when they only have a desk job?

escargot

17,122 posts

238 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Don said:
g3org3y said:
Starting to annoy me and yesterday was a particular ball ache. ranting

Everyone in this area is apparently 'depressed' or has 'back pain'. rolleyes

Bunch of work shy s the lot of them from what I've observed. Come in to see me with only one agenda - the sick note - and if they don't get it, all hell breaks loose.

Yesterday I had a sick note request (in broken English) for...

"doctor, I only have bike and my leg hurts to cycle to work, it is also raining" - fk off.

"doctor, it is my first period in 1.5 years after birth of child - I cannot work as going to toilet all the time" - fk off.

My particular favourite is the sick note in advance as though the scum have already decided they don't want to work for the next 2-3 months and have made plans.

And it's not just the white trash that love the 'sick note special', the Nigerians and the Polish are big fans - if you don't given them one, you are proclaimed as racist! There is a massive group out there who are essentially 'professional scroungers/skivers'. rolleyes

Can one blame them? In a society where having a job and paying taxes makes you barely better off than 'being on the sick' - why bother? Self respect? bks to that if you can get free cash...


First patient today wants 24th Jan - 25th Feb off owing to "headaches, back pains and cold" (love the advanced planning!). shoot
Doc, rest assured, we love your attitude. Sick notes for the genuinely sick is just fine with us. I hope, as a profession, all our GPs take a stand like you.
Quite.

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

248 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Dupont666 said:
so normal every day things then.... let me see:

headache... check due to the lack of sleep on my deadline
cold... check had that one for 3 weeks and only just getting rid of that one
back ache... damn, didnt get the full house

By any chance are all these people you see in meaningless factory/mundane work and have nothing to challenge them? I presume they have to tell you their job so that someone with an ingrowing nail cant claim sick when they only have a desk job?
+1, what ever happened to "We all feel like crap at times, suck it up and get on with it"?

anonymous-user

75 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Penny-lope said:
I am off work today frown

....been up most of the night with stomach cramps, and couldn't get my arse off the toilet for several hours.

Does that count?
Your not, are you???

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

305 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Th easy solution is not to pay people for being off sick.

Unfortunately this brings its own problems, like people turning up for work with Ebola.

Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 17th February 09:22

Dupont666

22,466 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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HundredthIdiot said:
Th easy solution is not to pay people for being off sick.

Unfortunately this brings its own problems, like people turning up for work with Ebola.

Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 17th February 09:22
I think you mean contractors turning up to work with Ebola...

I go on the principle if I get the illness from work then you can be damn sure I will be in work working whilst waiting for it to go... If its one from home then I wont be a selfish bastid and take a day off.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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The only thing worse than these work shy bunch of tossers are the pathetic doctors who give them the sick notes for an easy life.
They are to blame.
It is inherant in certain people to be lazy scrounging fkers and get away with whatever they can. THey are bound to at least try it on.

I am incredulous that doctors actually give them the sick notes.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

305 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Dupont666 said:
I think you mean contractors turning up to work with Ebola...
Well it's obviously more clear cut with contractors, but not everyone gets unpaid sick leave.

(Googles)

According to DirectGov:

DirectGov said:
If you're working for an employer under a contract of service (even if you've only just started), you're entitled to Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) if the following apply:

* you're sick for at least four days in a row (including weekends and bank holidays and days that you do not normally work)
* you're earning at least £95 a week

...
The standard rate for SSP is £79.15 a week
...
SSP is paid for qualifying days. These are the days on which you would normally work for your employer under a contract of employment. However it is not payable for the first three qualifying days, these days are known as waiting days.
...
Your employer cannot ask you to provide evidence that your are sick for the first seven days of illness. They may ask you to fill in a self-certificate of their own design or form SC2 which you can get from your GP's surgery, or from the HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) website.

If you are sick for more than seven days, your employer can ask you to give them some form of medical evidence to support payment of SSP.
So basically SSP is about £2 an hour. If employers didn't offer fully paid sick leave as a benefit, health would improve. smile

Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 17th February 09:35

escargot

17,122 posts

238 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I don't offer my employees any sick pay. If they want a day off skiving, I don't want to be paying for it.

I'd be happy to offer sick pay but the trouble is, it's become so endemic that the minute someone gets the sniffles, or the merest hint of a head ache it's "oh god, I feel terrible, please help me, i'm not coming into work for the next week crycrycry".

Plotloss

67,280 posts

291 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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In Slough, a false diagnosis of TB costs £50 from a bent doctor by all accounts.

If you have TB, you aren't allowed in government buildings, hence you can't sign on and just get the payment without signing...

What was that Tony? Things can only get better?

TEKNOPUG

20,188 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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If I don't go to work, I don't get paid. Amazing how I never get ill since I started contracting....

escargot

17,122 posts

238 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Plotloss said:
What was that Tony? Things can only get better?
For the bent Dr's it certainly has by all accounts.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

291 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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In Belgium if you have 1 sick day you don't get paid, if its a genuine illness of 2 or more days you do.

In the States some employers offer 'mental health' days which are like a bank of sickies if you don't feel like it.

Slikk

2,135 posts

264 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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None of my employees get sick pay.