Is your manager out for himself !!!
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I constantly confuse people when I am on contracts in places. I say things like "I'll have to see my Managing Director about that".
Well, I wander off and have a cup of coffee then wander back with an answer. Sometimes they even watch me (but I don't talk to myself - well, not out loud anyway!).
Normally my boss is quite laid back about things.
Sometimes he's a real stickler.
Depends what sort of mood I am in!
Well, I wander off and have a cup of coffee then wander back with an answer. Sometimes they even watch me (but I don't talk to myself - well, not out loud anyway!).
Normally my boss is quite laid back about things.
Sometimes he's a real stickler.
Depends what sort of mood I am in!
a few years ago, my gran died, thought I was ok with it... got wound up by someone and feeling a bit wound up, told them exactly what I thought of them and their lack of product
manager decided it would be best to not deal with it himself, but pass it to his manager who phoned up asking if I needed to come in for a 121 chat...
now I tend to think, does he really, really need to know about something, most times it is not urgent and the phone stays off, seems he spends most of his evenings and weekends working as someone needs to do it and it is not going to be me, suspect his hourly rate is a lot less than mine
manager decided it would be best to not deal with it himself, but pass it to his manager who phoned up asking if I needed to come in for a 121 chat...
now I tend to think, does he really, really need to know about something, most times it is not urgent and the phone stays off, seems he spends most of his evenings and weekends working as someone needs to do it and it is not going to be me, suspect his hourly rate is a lot less than mine
Management Vs Leadership....2 different things from 2 different eras of management.
No-one likes being managed, everyone can handle being led, by someone they genuinely look up to or aspire to.
So there's the answer, don't manage, lead. If you are good at leadership, people will follow and your job is easy.
If you control and actively manage your staff you are in danger of getting "work-to-rule" and at-the-desk absenteeism, employee apathy and disaffection.
Just my tuppence worth.
ETA: Current chap is from the old school, sh*t flows downhill and never on his shoes.
He's got 15 heads actively pursuing other opportunities as a result. Muppet.
No-one likes being managed, everyone can handle being led, by someone they genuinely look up to or aspire to.
So there's the answer, don't manage, lead. If you are good at leadership, people will follow and your job is easy.
If you control and actively manage your staff you are in danger of getting "work-to-rule" and at-the-desk absenteeism, employee apathy and disaffection.
Just my tuppence worth.
ETA: Current chap is from the old school, sh*t flows downhill and never on his shoes.
He's got 15 heads actively pursuing other opportunities as a result. Muppet.
Edited by robodonkey2005 on Monday 22 February 21:54
A friend works for a large company which has a lot of call centre staff, in the last couple of weeks they've been told that they have to put their hands up to ask permission to go to the loo, if a customer gets lost in their ivr they're not allowed to transfer the call to the correct department or give out the correct number instead they've to put the customer on hold, find a boss and ask permission to transfer the call. If the managers are in a meeting they have to interrupt the meeting to seek permission to transfer the call.
My manager at Sainsbury’s is quite a nice bloke to be honest and let me have Christmas week off after saying I had a holiday booked meaning I was the only person in the company who did and he is a honest down to earth bloke. He even came to the Christmas party and brought most people a drink which was also a nice thing of him to do.
Dad is a senior contracts manager and is known for being hard but firm but he always says never give anyone s
t on the way up the ladder because you may need them if you go back down and it seems to have worked for him thus far as despite him being 55 he is still being offered jobs.
Dad is a senior contracts manager and is known for being hard but firm but he always says never give anyone s
t on the way up the ladder because you may need them if you go back down and it seems to have worked for him thus far as despite him being 55 he is still being offered jobs. carreauchompeur said:
Hands up to go to the loo? Stuff that!
I worked in a factory in Barnsley where they tried that because the women on the hand assembly line took so long in the toilets usualy going in pairs.They had to stop it after a few day when they all sat on their chairs and pissed themselves.
I could write an essay on my manager when I worked for an IT company but I think the best bits are:-
First meeting we every had he told me he was not out to make friends!
a few years of micro management later....
Three of my team three leaving each stating that "Chandra" was the reason for leaving.
After several bad months with me making an official grievance against him (which failed) then him making an official grievance against me (when he gave me a list of issues the first one was the day I made my complaint about him....) which resulted in me getting a written warning. After I was officially given the letter I phoned my doctor and got a 4pm apointment and was signed off for two weeks.
During that two weeks my mother in law died and the funeral was due on the Friday of the week I was due to return. I contacted work to say I was due back Thursday but needed to be off Friday and was told that the doctors note even though issued at 4pm included the day I had worked and so I was due back on the Wednesday! I turned up Wednesday and handed in my notice to my manager about 9am. 10.30am he came and told me that I owed an hour from the week I was signed off - even though that was supposed to be day one of my sick leave. I told him to deduct it from my pay. A bit later he told me my last day was wrong and that I had to work an extra two days - which as I was going away for two weeks would mean doing those two days afterwards. I told him to deduct it from my pay.
I then sent an email to the apporx 100+ people in the company I knew saying I was leaving after 10years. After speaking to a few people about why and me telling the above I was spoken to by my manager and asked to leave straight away, no notice to be worked and I would be paid in full.
I generally get on with most people but that bloke was the biggest tosser and worst manager in the world.
First meeting we every had he told me he was not out to make friends!
a few years of micro management later....
Three of my team three leaving each stating that "Chandra" was the reason for leaving.
After several bad months with me making an official grievance against him (which failed) then him making an official grievance against me (when he gave me a list of issues the first one was the day I made my complaint about him....) which resulted in me getting a written warning. After I was officially given the letter I phoned my doctor and got a 4pm apointment and was signed off for two weeks.
During that two weeks my mother in law died and the funeral was due on the Friday of the week I was due to return. I contacted work to say I was due back Thursday but needed to be off Friday and was told that the doctors note even though issued at 4pm included the day I had worked and so I was due back on the Wednesday! I turned up Wednesday and handed in my notice to my manager about 9am. 10.30am he came and told me that I owed an hour from the week I was signed off - even though that was supposed to be day one of my sick leave. I told him to deduct it from my pay. A bit later he told me my last day was wrong and that I had to work an extra two days - which as I was going away for two weeks would mean doing those two days afterwards. I told him to deduct it from my pay.
I then sent an email to the apporx 100+ people in the company I knew saying I was leaving after 10years. After speaking to a few people about why and me telling the above I was spoken to by my manager and asked to leave straight away, no notice to be worked and I would be paid in full.
I generally get on with most people but that bloke was the biggest tosser and worst manager in the world.
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