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st_files

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5,443 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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I dont get how some people just dont care about what they are buying. A friend of mine bought a TV recently, "What make?" I asked "Dunno...Fergsuon I think."

1. How can you not be aware of what you bought?

2. How can some people buy something like a TV and be happy to buy a piece of tat like a Ferguson/Technika etc?

Dibby

423 posts

225 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Maybe some people try things in shops and buy based on quality and not what the label on the front says. Brands are irrelevant unless you want a badge to show off to your mates with.

Who cares what make of tellybox your mate has anyway? It's his money.

Carfiend

3,186 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Those Technika tvs are Samsung units anyway.

zac510

5,546 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Brand slave more like it smile

anonymous-user

79 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?

DrTre

12,957 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Different priorities for different people.

Although I'd be amused if the same people on here who proudly state "I buy my jeans from Asda, I don't care about them they get me from A to B" deride others for their choice of car: "I buy my cars from Kia, I don't care about them, they get me from A to B".

(Something I'm guilty of but I recognise everyone was different interests in life. Actually, fk that, I'm just a hypocrite)

elster

17,517 posts

235 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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I dont get how some people just care about what brand they are buying. A friend of mine bought a TV recently, "What make?" I asked "Dunno...it is a TV used to watch a few movies and the missus can watch the soaps, couldn't care less."

1. How can you not be aware of what you bought?
Easily. If it isn't a major part of your life and is bought on how it comes across for quality of what name is stamped on the front.

2. How can some people buy something like a TV and be happy to buy a piece of tat like a Ferguson/Technika etc?
As the label isn't the most important thing.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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snowy slopes said:
Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.

Dibby

423 posts

225 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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What matters to one person doesn't to another.

I couldn't care what brand of TV he watches, he probably couldn't give a toss what brand of mountain bike I ride

elster

17,517 posts

235 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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st_files said:
snowy slopes said:
Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.
Bless you believe that.

At what point does this carry on until? or is it infinitely for you?

That £600 Tv, £6000 TV, £60000 TV?

How about with clothes then? Is a designer branded clothing line of better quality that cheaper ones.

Of course not, anyone who believes that is a fool.

oyster

13,523 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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st_files said:
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.
If a £25 item lasts for 3 years and a £70 item lasts for 5 years, which is better?

And as to quality - what use is a top notch sound system when 99.9% of users will have it in a room that is affected by outside noises.

Shinobi

5,129 posts

215 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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st_files said:
snowy slopes said:
Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.
Wow your like a sales man dream customer.

Mars

10,012 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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st_files said:
snowy slopes said:
Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.
I don't think your generalisation works anymore. Now that most consumer items are made in China, you'll find they are made on the same production lines, to the same design (cosmetics aside), and of the same materials whether they be the branded items or the cheapos sold through Argos or Tesco.

My colleague and I recently found ourselves wearing the exact same type/colour of shirt last week except he bought his from Tesco and I bought mine from Debenhams. Both had completely different labels but were otherwise identical (OK, apart from mine being a fat-bd size).

My brother, who has interests in China, has worked with a number of factories/companies over there that operate on this principle. In fact, he claims that when they do a run for a brand, they often do another run without telling the brand owners, leaving off the brand name, and selling the products locally. They work on volumes, and make money accordingly.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

267 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Carfiend said:
Those Technika tvs are Samsung units anyway.
Sits back. Waits.

RS404

319 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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Incidentally, I have a Technika TV in the bedroom and the picture quality is just as good as the Sony Bravia in the lounge, I would recommend one to anyone.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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elster said:
st_files said:
snowy slopes said:
Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.
Bless you believe that.

At what point does this carry on until? or is it infinitely for you?

That £600 Tv, £6000 TV, £60000 TV?

How about with clothes then? Is a designer branded clothing line of better quality that cheaper ones.

Of course not, anyone who believes that is a fool.
There comes a point where you have to spend thousands to get one extra per cent of performance so yes, there is a point where it becomes ridiculous. My point is that I dont get how some people are happy to buy crap just because is much cheaper than anything else, wouldnt you rather spend 25% extra to get something much much better? I guess for some people it simply boils down to buying the cheapest product available.

Clothes are similar in that cheaper clothes tend to be made of cheaper materials like Polyester/rayon etc (technika) which would last much less time, be much less reliable and not give you as good performance than a decent material cotton (Samsung etc).

elster

17,517 posts

235 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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st_files said:
There comes a point where you have to spend thousands to get one extra per cent of performance so yes, there is a point where it becomes ridiculous. My point is that I dont get how some people are happy to buy crap just because is much cheaper than anything else, wouldnt you rather spend 25% extra to get something much much better? I guess for some people it simply boils down to buying the cheapest product available.

Clothes are similar in that cheaper clothes tend to be made of cheaper materials like Polyester/rayon etc (technika) which would last much less time, be much less reliable and not give you as good performance than a decent material cotton (Samsung etc).
You really believe that?

Cheaper clothes are usuually made of better quality natural fibres, designer clothes are usually made of modern artificial fibres that do not have the longevity or quality. So that argument is flawed.

Buying the best does not and never has meant buying the most expensive. Anyone who believes this really should do a little research into products, branding and marketing. You are the product of being educated by advertising.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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elster said:
st_files said:
There comes a point where you have to spend thousands to get one extra per cent of performance so yes, there is a point where it becomes ridiculous. My point is that I dont get how some people are happy to buy crap just because is much cheaper than anything else, wouldnt you rather spend 25% extra to get something much much better? I guess for some people it simply boils down to buying the cheapest product available.

Clothes are similar in that cheaper clothes tend to be made of cheaper materials like Polyester/rayon etc (technika) which would last much less time, be much less reliable and not give you as good performance than a decent material cotton (Samsung etc).
You really believe that?

Cheaper clothes are usuually made of better quality natural fibres, designer clothes are usually made of modern artificial fibres that do not have the longevity or quality. So that argument is flawed.

Buying the best does not and never has meant buying the most expensive. Anyone who believes this really should do a little research into products, branding and marketing. You are the product of being educated by advertising.
Where did I say you have to buy the most expensive item? I'm not saying dont buy a Technika buy a Bang & Olufsen, I'm saying buy a Samsung (for example).

Tuna

19,930 posts

309 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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elster said:
st_files said:
snowy slopes said:
Not bothered by brand name at all, if it does the job and is cheaper than the top names, then i'll buy it. For example, my last surround sound came from asda and cost about £25. Now i know it wouldnt match a Bose system, or a custom built system, but it did the job and lasted for about 6 years, why buy a sony, just because of the name?
Because generally they're:

A) Better made - ie they'll last longer.
B) Better quality - they'll sound better, if you think your £25 asda surround sound sounds as good as a high end system you're sadly mistaken.

Obviously there are exceptions - Samsung TV's are apparently very good value for money.
Bless you believe that.

At what point does this carry on until? or is it infinitely for you?

That £600 Tv, £6000 TV, £60000 TV?

How about with clothes then? Is a designer branded clothing line of better quality that cheaper ones.

Of course not, anyone who believes that is a fool.
If you don't even know what brand/model you've just spent a few hundred quid on, how do you know that you've not just bought the biggest pile of rubbish going? Whatever your budget is, surely it makes sense to pick the best model you can get at that price? Just wondering into Asda and dropping notes on the first piece of bling that catches your eye suggests you're pretty lazy with your money.

This wonderful myth that every last piece of electronics is all made in one factory to exactly the same design is great too - it's always the 'next brand up' that gets mentioned - so Tecknicks are the same as Samsung, Samsung is the same as Phillips etc.

It's not about 'designer' brands - it's about knowing what the kit you've just bought is.

Edited by Tuna on Tuesday 2nd March 13:10

Dibby

423 posts

225 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2010
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st_files said:
My point is that I dont get how some people are happy to buy crap just because is much cheaper than anything else, wouldnt you rather spend 25% extra to get something much much better? I guess for some people it simply boils down to buying the cheapest product available.

Clothes are similar in that cheaper clothes tend to be made of cheaper materials like Polyester/rayon etc (technika) which would last much less time, be much less reliable and not give you as good performance than a decent material cotton (Samsung etc).
It all depends on priorities. I'm no couch potato so would find it hard to justify spending more than a couple of hundred quid on a TV I only watch for a couple of hours a week but I put in thousands of miles on the bike and give it a good hammering in the Alps once a year so I do buy quality there. You might have a £100 Halfords bike but I wouldn't tell you you're a cock for buying crap if all you do is the odd trip down the cycle track.

With car and bike parts you can tell where the money went into the materials and the machine work. Designer clothes however, you get the 'experts' on TV rifling through peoples' wardrobes on these Goks-how-not-wot-to-look-like shows and every time they have to look at the label to tell who made the clothes. I'm sorry but I could tell you what bike frame was what with the stickers peeled off, and the copies stand out a mile because they have to be strengthened due to the poor quality materials. With clothes you really are just paying for the label, it bugs me when a proper expert, not just an enthusiastic amateur can't tell the difference between designer and high street.