CSA hounding people for money in new ways
CSA hounding people for money in new ways
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Cara Van Man

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29,977 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Sitting in work yesterday I recieved a text from an unknown number saying to contact the sender 'URGENTLY' regarding my maintenance payments. A bit odd as I pay regularly via a standing order, but thought there may have been a glitch so payment didn't go through.

I phoned the number to be greeted with a cheery "Hello you are speaking to Brian...blah blah blah"

Immediately my heckles went up when I was asked to give my adress, ref number and various personal details to prove who I was.

I refused on the basis that they were my personal details and he should prove who HE was (as he had contacted me initially) if I was going to discuss my private matters with him.

He apologised for the mess up, to which I responded that I was used to the inadequacies of the CSA as I had dealt with them for 17 years. He didn't quite know what to say to this hehe

Anyway, he then informed me that apparently I have "arrears" to the sum of £1500 and that I needed to pay them off.

Fair point.

I agreed a paltry amount to be added to my already crippling monthly amount just to get them off my back and the conversation was concluded.

Or so I thought. rolleyes

My new found text buddy then phoned me back less than 2 minutes later and asked if I wanted to pay the arrears off in total "by credit card" rofl

"Ram it pie face" was my answer.

I hung up. Brian didn't call me back.

fking cowboys.

I expect to be hassled via letters, but text and phone calls? fk off.

Spleen vented. Thank you.

ETA: Anyone else had this sort of experience?

Edited by Cara Van Man on Thursday 11th March 11:12

Neil H

15,409 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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You've just put me off ever having kids!

Slightly OT, but I got a random text the other week saying "Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the accident you had. To claim for free reply with AID to this msg."

It was at least 3 years ago now and I was the only one involved.

Superhoop1904

563 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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"Ram it pie face"

Brilliant. rofl

jagracer

8,248 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Cara Van Man said:
Lots of stuff about Brian and money
Was Brian Nigerian by any chance.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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jagracer said:
Cara Van Man said:
Lots of stuff about Brian and money
Was Brian Nigerian by any chance.
Racist. They're supposed to be called 'Blackian', these days.

Cara Van Man

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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jagracer said:
Cara Van Man said:
Lots of stuff about Brian and money
Was Brian Nigerian by any chance.
No Oirish.

The CSA have their HQ in Belfast I think.

However, point taken. Nigerian scams are slighlty more credible than some of the CSAs actions.

soad

34,384 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Cara Van Man said:
"Ram it pie face" was my answer.
Nice.

Cara Van Man said:
Anyone else had this sort of experience?
Thankfully no.

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
They can and will.

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
They can and will.
What if your self employed?

Tuscan Rat

3,276 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
If you work in a public sector job, they do. I had a dispute over my CSA a few years back. Without telling me, they just started to take it direct from my wages. The worse thing is they charge me an admin fee to do it….

Cara Van Man

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
They can and will.
Agreed.

I've known people in the Forces who have had it taken directly from their pay packs without even knowing about it until they got a pay chit with a load of money missing.

Cara Van Man

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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GTIR said:
Justayellowbadge said:
GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
They can and will.
What if your self employed?
disappear.

Tuscan Rat

3,276 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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GTIR said:
Justayellowbadge said:
GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
They can and will.
What if your self employed?
You go in the to difficult box and left alone !!! Friends who are chasing fathers that are self employed for money don't get any support from either the CSA or the courts.

escargot

17,122 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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How can they determine that you're in arrears if you pay a set amount every month?

Cara Van Man

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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escargot said:
How can they determine that you're in arrears if you pay a set amount every month?
In my case I was being "re-assessed", and because they took several months to work out my amount, they back date it to when the request was entered.

Oddly, they are chasing me for these arrears when I pay my monthly amount regularly, but when my wifes ex stopped paying for a whole year, they did nothing.

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Tuscan Rat said:
GTIR said:
Justayellowbadge said:
GTIR said:
Do the CSA force employers to take money direct from your wages? (I mean generally not CVM's case)
They can and will.
What if your self employed?
You go in the to difficult box and left alone !!! Friends who are chasing fathers that are self employed for money don't get any support from either the CSA or the courts.
Thats me ok then!

party

(I do however pay for my little angel and have always done just nice to know i'm "protected" to some extent)

Tuscan Rat

3,276 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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escargot said:
How can they determine that you're in arrears if you pay a set amount every month?
They move the goal posts to suite their needs. I hate the CSA so much. There are so many different rules depending on when your "Account" was started.

When they got involved with my case I had to supply them every outgoing / income etc etc and they put it into a magic computer and comeup with some stupid figure.

Then it changed to percentage of your income depending on how many children etc you have.

The list goes on and on...

escargot

17,122 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Cara Van Man said:
escargot said:
How can they determine that you're in arrears if you pay a set amount every month?
In my case I was being "re-assessed", and because they took several months to work out my amount, they back date it to when the request was entered.

Oddly, they are chasing me for these arrears when I pay my monthly amount regularly, but when my wifes ex stopped paying for a whole year, they did nothing.
I love that. So through their incompetence, they're harassing you for the money immediately. Bunch of s.

Cara Van Man

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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escargot said:
Cara Van Man said:
escargot said:
How can they determine that you're in arrears if you pay a set amount every month?
In my case I was being "re-assessed", and because they took several months to work out my amount, they back date it to when the request was entered.

Oddly, they are chasing me for these arrears when I pay my monthly amount regularly, but when my wifes ex stopped paying for a whole year, they did nothing.
I love that. So through their incompetence, they're harassing you for the money immediately. Bunch of s.
yes

and hence my total disrefgard for them over the phone. I've had 17 years of stress and worry because of them. I now treat them with the contempt they deserve and make it as awkward as possible for them. I'll be stopping paying soon anyway and they can chase me for the money. The funny thing is, I'm paying out more for one child than we are getting in for two children, and the child I am paying out for goes to a private school.

the whole system is fked. just as well I'm out of it soon, having paid approx £62k over the years.

Most expensive shag I've ever paid for. frown

Edited by Cara Van Man on Thursday 11th March 12:34