Road line paint - advice needed.
Road line paint - advice needed.
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jhfozzy

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1,345 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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We've got a white 20m line outside painted onto concrete for testing purposes.

The problem is, whatever we use to paint it with wears out within 9 - 12 months.

It gets a fair bit of wear with vehicles (some HGVs) driving over it and it gets some twisting force on the paint as it's a carpark too.

We originally tried normal external paint, that didn't last long, we're now onto line marking paint from our local supplier but it's still not great.

Anyone got any other suggestions on what we could try to stop it coming off so quickly or is 12months the wear limit for paint?

John.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

228 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Even councils have to repaint road markings every now and again.

A 'permanent' solution would be to make the line using a different material. Something like cut a trench and make a line from bricks set into the concrete?

jhfozzy

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1,345 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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mrmr96 said:
Even councils have to repaint road markings every now and again.

A 'permanent' solution would be to make the line using a different material. Something like cut a trench and make a line from bricks set into the concrete?
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?

Our specifications just say they have to be "a material of a durable nature i.e. road marking paint"

Gives me a bit to think about, Cheers. beer

ETA: confused i.e. with e.g.

Edited by jhfozzy on Thursday 11th March 16:04

HiRich

3,337 posts

286 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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jhfozzy said:
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?
Have you considered, like, asking them, rather than us? Some even have websites now.

FlashmanChop

1,300 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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HiRich said:
jhfozzy said:
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?
Have you considered, like, asking them, rather than us? Some even have websites now.
I think the real white lining is stuff refered to as thermoplatsic screed

NerveAgent

3,785 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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FlashmanChop said:
HiRich said:
jhfozzy said:
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?
Have you considered, like, asking them, rather than us? Some even have websites now.
I think the real white lining is stuff refered to as thermoplatsic screed
Yes it is, still wears out eventially though

jhfozzy

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1,345 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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HiRich said:
jhfozzy said:
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?
Have you considered, like, asking them, rather than us? Some even have websites now.
Yes, but I'd rather go straight to the supplier.

We do work for the council and it's hard enough to get them to come up to collect their vehicles when they're finished, I'd hate to see what happened if I asked them an actual question.

DrTre

12,957 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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FlashmanChop said:
HiRich said:
jhfozzy said:
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?
Have you considered, like, asking them, rather than us? Some even have websites now.
I think the real white lining is stuff refered to as thermoplatsic screed
Didn't he fight Rocky?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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DrTre said:
FlashmanChop said:
HiRich said:
jhfozzy said:
But do they have to repaint every 12 months?? We've had lines outside that they put down 3 years ago and have lasted ok, with the same sort of wear and tear on them, I wonder what they use?
Have you considered, like, asking them, rather than us? Some even have websites now.
I think the real white lining is stuff refered to as thermoplatsic screed
Didn't he fight Rocky?
Then he fought Drago and became Permospastic Creed.

DrTre

12,957 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I actually just spat out some chicken sushi (I know, technically no such thing)

jhfozzy

Original Poster:

1,345 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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DrTre said:
I actually just spat out some chicken sushi (I know, technically no such thing)
You can get Chicken Sushi, like you can get lots of different xxxx Sushi combinations.

Sushi is just the rice.

DrTre

12,957 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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jhfozzy said:
DrTre said:
I actually just spat out some chicken sushi (I know, technically no such thing)
You can get Chicken Sushi, like you can get lots of different xxxx Sushi combinations.

Sushi is just the rice.
I'm an arse, you're completely right. Sashimi is the fish bit.

Sorry for not being able to contribute in any remotely meaningful way to your issue

Fish

4,061 posts

306 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Simple. Thermoplastic screeds doesn't attach well to concrete- too smooth

The best solution. - Angle grinder, just just a nice straight line in the top 10mm or so of the concrete.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

228 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Fish said:
Simple. Thermoplastic screeds doesn't attach well to concrete- too smooth

The best solution. - Angle grinder, just just a nice straight line in the top 10mm or so of the concrete.
You could then fill in the trench with white stuff?

andyroo

2,469 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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mrmr96 said:
Fish said:
Simple. Thermoplastic screeds doesn't attach well to concrete- too smooth

The best solution. - Angle grinder, just just a nice straight line in the top 10mm or so of the concrete.
You could then fill in the trench with white stuff?
You'd be sore afterwards though

Bonedaddy

303 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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White lines.....Dont do it!


(oops sorry, wrong thread) biggrin

jhfozzy

Original Poster:

1,345 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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mrmr96 said:
Fish said:
Simple. Thermoplastic screeds doesn't attach well to concrete- too smooth

The best solution. - Angle grinder, just just a nice straight line in the top 10mm or so of the concrete.
You could then fill in the trench with white stuff?
Might get that one past the boss, I knew PH would come up with the goods.

Cheers.

Pothole

34,367 posts

306 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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jhfozzy said:
Our specifications just say they have to be "a material of a durable nature i.e. road marking paint"
so they are telling you to use road marking paint. Unless it actually says e.g. road marking paint (for example)

jhfozzy

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214 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Pothole said:
jhfozzy said:
Our specifications just say they have to be "a material of a durable nature i.e. road marking paint"
so they are telling you to use road marking paint. Unless it actually says e.g. road marking paint (for example)
Indeed, so bricks are out of the question then. Groove + Paint would satisfy the requirements though.

Looks like I'm about to learn how to lay "Thermoplastic screeds".

Edited by jhfozzy on Thursday 11th March 16:05