Castrated. Yet another Dog thread
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Somewhere in our village is a female doggy that is in season. Its driving my dog totally nuts, he won't settle, pines at the door all day, howls like a bugger at night and the other night he ran off on his quest to get one of his furry little legs over. So the soloution seems to be get his ball removed. Painfull I wager. Anyway he is 2 yrs old and I am kind of thinking that he is too old for the chop and he probably won't change his behvaiour anyway. Has anyone chopped a dog at this age and did you get the results you wanted?
Your dog is not too old.
Some schools of thought would suggest this is the ideal time as he has had the chance to grow through puberty as intended. the down side is more pain/discomfort for him post-op than if a small puppy.
It will calm him down (well, 99% of dogs), it may also make him lethargic and prone to weight gain.
Can take several weeks, even months for the full effect to be seen.
If he doesn't get his leg over he will become frustrated and you can see random leg shagging, increased aggression and destructive behaviour around the house. in short dogs are meant to hump!
Have just had a two year old Dog de Bordeaux done after plans to stud him failed as he is a useless waste of fur, but that is a separate issue. No problems and a more relaxed mutt in general.
Some schools of thought would suggest this is the ideal time as he has had the chance to grow through puberty as intended. the down side is more pain/discomfort for him post-op than if a small puppy.
It will calm him down (well, 99% of dogs), it may also make him lethargic and prone to weight gain.
Can take several weeks, even months for the full effect to be seen.
If he doesn't get his leg over he will become frustrated and you can see random leg shagging, increased aggression and destructive behaviour around the house. in short dogs are meant to hump!
Have just had a two year old Dog de Bordeaux done after plans to stud him failed as he is a useless waste of fur, but that is a separate issue. No problems and a more relaxed mutt in general.
Fartgalen said:
The Mrs had a stallion 'done' this weekend. 2 fist sized lumps of flesh cut out and 'plump' to the ground. Together with a bit of blood. They don't even sow them up afterwards - it heals itself. The poor chap just got a relaxant and a bit of local anaesthetic.
I feel queer all of a sudden...bazking69 said:
Fartgalen said:
The Mrs had a stallion 'done' this weekend. 2 fist sized lumps of flesh cut out and 'plump' to the ground. Together with a bit of blood. They don't even sow them up afterwards - it heals itself. The poor chap just got a relaxant and a bit of local anaesthetic.
I feel queer all of a sudden...
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I was told Castration often leads to weight gain in dogs too - would that be an issue ?
Nah. I was always told it was a myth. Basically you can expect to see a drop in overall activity levels and if you continue to feed at the original level then yeah, you will see weight gain. But in reality if its managed carefully and you make sure that the dog gets plenty of exercise and its not overfed, it wont be an issue.Not castration, but had my dog spayed and she is perfectly fine - if a little useless in the dog department. Wouldn't change her for the world though.
Castration DOES NOT HAVE TO LEAD TO WEIGHT GAIN. Sorry for caps but it is so important to get this across.
My whippet was castrated at 11 months at with abit of care has remained a perfect weight. He is 6 years old and most people think he is 12 months due to his build and playfulness.
No he is not to old to be done.
It will take several weeks for the hormones to settle, he may never stop all behaviour related to being entire but it should make a big difference.
There is no reason why he should become lethargic, this usually happens because people let them get fat blaming it on the neutering.
Immediatley after neutering reduce food intake by upto 20%.
The reason for the gain will be a reduction in their metabollic rate so easiest thing to do is reduce treats, change to a light diet or reduce current diet.
Weigh them regularly and adjust food accordingly.
Keep tham as active as ever and should be fine.
I am not saying that weight gain won't occur with neutering, it does, entire males and females do keep their shape more easily, what I am saying is it can be avoided with care and too many people use it as an excuse or just assume so don't do or think they can do anything to prevent it.
Has to be the right thing to do for his sanity! Better for long term health and because he is now fully mature the testerone has done it's most important job!
My whippet was castrated at 11 months at with abit of care has remained a perfect weight. He is 6 years old and most people think he is 12 months due to his build and playfulness.
No he is not to old to be done.
It will take several weeks for the hormones to settle, he may never stop all behaviour related to being entire but it should make a big difference.
There is no reason why he should become lethargic, this usually happens because people let them get fat blaming it on the neutering.
Immediatley after neutering reduce food intake by upto 20%.
The reason for the gain will be a reduction in their metabollic rate so easiest thing to do is reduce treats, change to a light diet or reduce current diet.
Weigh them regularly and adjust food accordingly.
Keep tham as active as ever and should be fine.
I am not saying that weight gain won't occur with neutering, it does, entire males and females do keep their shape more easily, what I am saying is it can be avoided with care and too many people use it as an excuse or just assume so don't do or think they can do anything to prevent it.
Has to be the right thing to do for his sanity! Better for long term health and because he is now fully mature the testerone has done it's most important job!
Fartgalen said:
The Mrs had a stallion 'done' this weekend. 2 fist sized lumps of flesh cut out and 'plump' to the ground. Together with a bit of blood. They don't even sow them up afterwards - it heals itself. The poor chap just got a relaxant and a bit of local anaesthetic.
Witnessed something similar on the uncle's and aunt's farm years ago. It was some pigs/piglets. Not pleasant.Not as bad as seeing a freshly slaughtered headless chicken trying to run and stagger round though.
Edited by soad on Wednesday 24th March 17:58
There are 'side effects' in my opinion. Some like the potential weight gain can be managed. It doesn't make it easy when the dog in questions lives for food.
Another effect I have experienced is in the coat. If you have a dog with a good coat and you don't want to destroy it, live with the other problems. Also ignore vets comments that castration at an early age won't affect coat.
We have an English Setter who had to be chopped at six due to early cancerous cells down below (spotted by the groomer !! totty - she never checked me out). His coat changed.
We then got an Irish Setter who has not been chopped - randy devil. But we saw a picture of his half brother and asked straight away - has he been chopped. The evidence was clear, and even the owner admitted she regretted having the job done (due to having two b
hes <mother and sister> in the house).
There are many things to consider - not a snap decision.
Damn censorship - in this case a bh is a female dog !!
Another effect I have experienced is in the coat. If you have a dog with a good coat and you don't want to destroy it, live with the other problems. Also ignore vets comments that castration at an early age won't affect coat.
We have an English Setter who had to be chopped at six due to early cancerous cells down below (spotted by the groomer !! totty - she never checked me out). His coat changed.
We then got an Irish Setter who has not been chopped - randy devil. But we saw a picture of his half brother and asked straight away - has he been chopped. The evidence was clear, and even the owner admitted she regretted having the job done (due to having two b
hes <mother and sister> in the house).There are many things to consider - not a snap decision.
Damn censorship - in this case a b
h is a female dog !!My Cavalier was castrated at only a few weeks old (due to missing bk) and has never cocked his leg, he just squats like a bh.
Milly, on the other hand, cocks her leg and sometimes get fruity and tries to hump him.
Got their hormones muddled up somewhere along the line.
Just remembered my Bassethound was done at over a year to calm his aggression
No, it did not work he was just a humpy sod.
All I remember is that his ballsack swelled up about the size of a small cushion.
Back again:
My wife had her terrier done at the age of 4+ mainly due to him escaping out of the garden to 'sow his seeds'. It did not stop him escaping or chasing after the ladies - I suppose it was already built into his brain.
k) and has never cocked his leg, he just squats like a bh.Milly, on the other hand, cocks her leg and sometimes get fruity and tries to hump him.
Got their hormones muddled up somewhere along the line.
Just remembered my Bassethound was done at over a year to calm his aggression
No, it did not work he was just a humpy sod.All I remember is that his ballsack swelled up about the size of a small cushion.
Back again:
My wife had her terrier done at the age of 4+ mainly due to him escaping out of the garden to 'sow his seeds'. It did not stop him escaping or chasing after the ladies - I suppose it was already built into his brain.
Edited by Morningside on Wednesday 24th March 22:42
ClassicMercs said:
There are 'side effects' in my opinion. Some like the potential weight gain can be managed. It doesn't make it easy when the dog in questions lives for food.
Another effect I have experienced is in the coat. If you have a dog with a good coat and you don't want to destroy it, live with the other problems. Also ignore vets comments that castration at an early age won't affect coat.
We have an English Setter who had to be chopped at six due to early cancerous cells down below (spotted by the groomer !! totty - she never checked me out). His coat changed.
We then got an Irish Setter who has not been chopped - randy devil. But we saw a picture of his half brother and asked straight away - has he been chopped. The evidence was clear, and even the owner admitted she regretted having the job done (due to having two bhes <mother and sister> in the house).
There are many things to consider - not a snap decision.
Damn censorship - in this case a bh is a female dog !!
Change of coat compared to testicular cancer, prostate cancer, anal adenomas, think I know which I'd risk! My dogs coat never changed.Another effect I have experienced is in the coat. If you have a dog with a good coat and you don't want to destroy it, live with the other problems. Also ignore vets comments that castration at an early age won't affect coat.
We have an English Setter who had to be chopped at six due to early cancerous cells down below (spotted by the groomer !! totty - she never checked me out). His coat changed.
We then got an Irish Setter who has not been chopped - randy devil. But we saw a picture of his half brother and asked straight away - has he been chopped. The evidence was clear, and even the owner admitted she regretted having the job done (due to having two b
hes <mother and sister> in the house).There are many things to consider - not a snap decision.
Damn censorship - in this case a b
h is a female dog !!Plenty of dogs are neutered and no consequence to the coat.
Sometimes neutering can actually improve the coat due to hormonal imbalances.
Whislt I'm not dismissing that it can happen it can't possibly outweigh the other health risks (unless you have a show dog)
More people ruin their dogs coats due to bad clipping/ grooming techniques.
Our Spaniel was castrated at 3 or 4, can't remember off the top off my head. He has got a bit chubby since (6ish now) and seems less interested in things generally, such as chasing birds which he used to do loads. Seems a bit lazy to be honest, like he has lost a bit of his "zing".
In fact, he isn't even that much better behaved, but he was never really trained in anything apart from not weeing inside (Mum's dog, and she is very soft on him) so he continually scratches on doors when not let in the lounge and barks until you let him in. But he doesn't shag your arm any more so that's a plus point I guess.
The reason we got it done is because he had a lump on one of his nuts, if he hadn't then I don't think we would have got him snipped.
In fact, he isn't even that much better behaved, but he was never really trained in anything apart from not weeing inside (Mum's dog, and she is very soft on him) so he continually scratches on doors when not let in the lounge and barks until you let him in. But he doesn't shag your arm any more so that's a plus point I guess.
The reason we got it done is because he had a lump on one of his nuts, if he hadn't then I don't think we would have got him snipped.
clarkey318is said:
Our Spaniel was castrated at 3 or 4, can't remember off the top off my head. He has got a bit chubby since (6ish now) and seems less interested in things generally, such as chasing birds which he used to do loads. Seems a bit lazy to be honest, like he has lost a bit of his "zing".
In fact, he isn't even that much better behaved, but he was never really trained in anything apart from not weeing inside (Mum's dog, and she is very soft on him) so he continually scratches on doors when not let in the lounge and barks until you let him in. But he doesn't shag your arm any more so that's a plus point I guess.
The reason we got it done is because he had a lump on one of his nuts, if he hadn't then I don't think we would have got him snipped.
Get him on a diet, slim him down and that zing may well return, it's not too late. As I said earlier, my whippet is 6 (neutered at 11 months) and still plays etc plenty, yes he is calmer as well but that is just down to being a mature dog but he has not lost any interest in life In fact, he isn't even that much better behaved, but he was never really trained in anything apart from not weeing inside (Mum's dog, and she is very soft on him) so he continually scratches on doors when not let in the lounge and barks until you let him in. But he doesn't shag your arm any more so that's a plus point I guess.
The reason we got it done is because he had a lump on one of his nuts, if he hadn't then I don't think we would have got him snipped.
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