Canny dog collar.
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Does anyone have one, if so can you tell me if it is any good at controlling a dog?
I found myself living with a parsons Jack Russell we got from the dogs trust last year, he is a lovely dog but he wants to fight:
Himself
other dogs
The cats
His shadow
The letterbox
The post man
I'll stop there as this could go on all day, anyhow it is not usually a problem as I can control him with stern words in the house but the problem is when he goes for a walk, he pulls like a husky and I stop him and tell him no, after 5 minutes he usually gets the idea to stop pulling.
When he spots another dog though all hell breaks loose, he turns into the tasmanian devil, spinning, barking, growling and going mental as if he is totally wild.
So are these leads any good for controlling the wayward scamp?
Does anyone have one, if so can you tell me if it is any good at controlling a dog?
I found myself living with a parsons Jack Russell we got from the dogs trust last year, he is a lovely dog but he wants to fight:
Himself
other dogs
The cats
His shadow
The letterbox
The post man
I'll stop there as this could go on all day, anyhow it is not usually a problem as I can control him with stern words in the house but the problem is when he goes for a walk, he pulls like a husky and I stop him and tell him no, after 5 minutes he usually gets the idea to stop pulling.
When he spots another dog though all hell breaks loose, he turns into the tasmanian devil, spinning, barking, growling and going mental as if he is totally wild.
So are these leads any good for controlling the wayward scamp?
Cara van Man said:
He's a 'lovely dog' yet he wants to attack all and sundry? Does not compute.
He normally is and as I say one word can control him until he see's a dog outside, I understand his breed is a fox hunter so I can see why he goes nuts, I just wondered if that lead could stop his mental minute as it is attached to the muzzle.A headcollar can help manage the issue, but will not cure it.
With a new foster dog I always use a harness and double-ended (training) lead with a headcollar if I need to, initially. Headcollars (Dogmatic is my favourite) will only work with a very short lead as the action turns the head sideways. Although I think a Canny Collar works by pulling the dog's head down into its chest?
You do need to be careful with a headcollar though. So many fit really badly, rub or end up in the dog's eyes - leading to infection and worse. The other thing to be careful of is that sharp tugs or a continual pressure on the lead (turning the head sideways) can and does end up doing permanent damage to a dog's neck. I only ever use a headcollar with a double ended lead for this reason - one end clipped on a harness and the other clipped on the headcollar. The headcollar comes gently into use only when needed. Halti do training leads with a smaller, lighter clip on one end to use on the headcollar.
As I said, this will manage, but not cure, the problem.
It's likely he has fear aggression issues, which will mean his stress and adrenalin levels will be up, which in turn means that he will be more and more reactive to whatever it is that makes him fearful.
If it was my dog, I would find myself a properly qualified (with a degree in canine behaviour and training) behaviourist. They will assess your dog and agree a forward plan with you. The first thing will probably be to avoid all the triggers that set your dog off, so that his stress and adrenalin levels drop. He will become calmer and more able to cope then. Once that has happened he will be able to learn and you can put some de-sensitizing and counter-conditioning steps in place so that he will no longer feel the need to react.
Good luck
With a new foster dog I always use a harness and double-ended (training) lead with a headcollar if I need to, initially. Headcollars (Dogmatic is my favourite) will only work with a very short lead as the action turns the head sideways. Although I think a Canny Collar works by pulling the dog's head down into its chest?
You do need to be careful with a headcollar though. So many fit really badly, rub or end up in the dog's eyes - leading to infection and worse. The other thing to be careful of is that sharp tugs or a continual pressure on the lead (turning the head sideways) can and does end up doing permanent damage to a dog's neck. I only ever use a headcollar with a double ended lead for this reason - one end clipped on a harness and the other clipped on the headcollar. The headcollar comes gently into use only when needed. Halti do training leads with a smaller, lighter clip on one end to use on the headcollar.
As I said, this will manage, but not cure, the problem.
It's likely he has fear aggression issues, which will mean his stress and adrenalin levels will be up, which in turn means that he will be more and more reactive to whatever it is that makes him fearful.
If it was my dog, I would find myself a properly qualified (with a degree in canine behaviour and training) behaviourist. They will assess your dog and agree a forward plan with you. The first thing will probably be to avoid all the triggers that set your dog off, so that his stress and adrenalin levels drop. He will become calmer and more able to cope then. Once that has happened he will be able to learn and you can put some de-sensitizing and counter-conditioning steps in place so that he will no longer feel the need to react.
Good luck
Lots of good advice there, thanks.
I have been training him for over a year and he responds now to every command, I fear I may have painted him in a bad light and want to stress that with a stern word he responds first time everytime, with the pulling issue as I said he stops very quickly as I will stand still and tell him no.
Everything is great until he spots another dog and nothing I say or do will stop him.
He is not the only dog in the house and he is neutered.
I'll investigate specialist training and go with the harness and canny collar and see how he goes.
I have been training him for over a year and he responds now to every command, I fear I may have painted him in a bad light and want to stress that with a stern word he responds first time everytime, with the pulling issue as I said he stops very quickly as I will stand still and tell him no.
Everything is great until he spots another dog and nothing I say or do will stop him.
He is not the only dog in the house and he is neutered.
I'll investigate specialist training and go with the harness and canny collar and see how he goes.
sherman said:
Just buy a slip lead for a pulling dog. If they pull the lead tightens and slightly chokes them. They soon get the message.
They are also much easier to put on and take off.
This, plus collars tend to leave marks on the fur if they are left on, obviously these don't.They are also much easier to put on and take off.
I would go for this instead though. Don't know why, just preference, think they loosen easier when dog stops pulling.
sherman said:
Just buy a slip lead for a pulling dog. If they pull the lead tightens and slightly chokes them. They soon get the message.
Not always, we used to use a slip chain on a border terrier and she'd pull so hard her front leg were off the ground most of the time. She'd occasionally drop on to all fours if she was really struggle for breath but as soon as she caught her breath she'd be off again.As someone else said, it's a terrier, they all do that
From what the OP has said, this is more than just an issue of pulling on the lead.
Choke chains/slip leads will not solve any behavioural issues, often cause physical damage and can exacerbate behavioural conditions due to association of pain with whatever the dog may be lunging at when the choke chain .... chokes.
No member of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers should be using a choke chain and they (among others) have a leaflet explaining why they are not a good thing. APDT Choke Chain Lealet
I would still be going to see a properly qualified behaviourist to get to the bottom of all the dog's issues.
Choke chains/slip leads will not solve any behavioural issues, often cause physical damage and can exacerbate behavioural conditions due to association of pain with whatever the dog may be lunging at when the choke chain .... chokes.
No member of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers should be using a choke chain and they (among others) have a leaflet explaining why they are not a good thing. APDT Choke Chain Lealet
I would still be going to see a properly qualified behaviourist to get to the bottom of all the dog's issues.
choke chains I don't believe are a good thing, slip leads however seem fine.
Jasandjules said:
Personally, I've seen all too many dogs walking along on a choke chain practically being hanged by their owners. The dogs don't stop pulling, they just struggle with breathing whilst pulling away.....
That's because they're mongs and haven't bothered to actually address the wider issue of why the dog is pulling and how you go about rectifying it with proper training. It doesn't generally take much work, or time to rectify, and it doesn't involve trying to pull your dogs head off with a slip lead / choke chain.Stu R said:
That's because they're mongs and haven't bothered to actually address the wider issue of why the dog is pulling and how you go about rectifying it with proper training. It doesn't generally take much work, or time to rectify, and it doesn't involve trying to pull your dogs head off with a slip lead / choke chain.
I agree. Though with one of my dogs it takes constant work because she's always testing the boundaries. The other two however are easy enough with the training - and given that they weigh 8 and 10 stone it's just as well.I use a Halti headcollar on my terrier cross as it helps with her pulling but also means that I can direct her head away from seeing other dogs to prevent her kicking off about them.
Totally understand when the Sheets lists all the bad things then says it's a lovely dog, mine is just the same. If you're human she's an angel, have a dog with you and it all out war!
Totally understand when the Sheets lists all the bad things then says it's a lovely dog, mine is just the same. If you're human she's an angel, have a dog with you and it all out war!
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