Female Chav with a "blade" is it acceptable to fight back?
Female Chav with a "blade" is it acceptable to fight back?
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humpbackmaniac

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1,899 posts

271 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Scenario is; a gentleman folk walking home from pub through a market town is approached by a circa 18/20yo chavette in full hoody ploomage. She points a three inch bladed knife at him, looks serious and asks for his wallet and watch, she has three friends fifty yards away in the gloom.
He decides that he doesnt want to part with his valuables. She becomes more agitated and is about to use the knife.

He is confident that he can hit her hard enough to end the problem before she can use the knife.

Does her sex change the view of people/the law if he does?

My opinion is that she waived the right to be treated as a lady by not acting as one. What are his options? Laugh at her and keep walking, hand over his hard earned, or deck her?

This is a variation on a meeting I had in Ipswich. I chose option one and eventually she gave up, obviously didnt have the minerals. But thinking back a stab wound is a stab wound so was probably the wrong thing to have done. Option three is best from a keyboard point of view.



steveo3002

11,232 posts

204 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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yeah fight ...what you gona stand there and get stabed

hyperblue

2,913 posts

210 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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She's pulled a knife, I think you'd be excused for laying her out.

Adenauer

18,982 posts

266 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Why does having tits make any difference to someone who wants to stab you? Pick up the nearest brick and smash her in the face with it.

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Take her up the oxo tower, with your boot.

Dave200

5,671 posts

250 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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humpbackmaniac said:
Does her sex change...
That's a different thread altogether.

UncleRic

937 posts

198 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Seeing as this is the internet, combined with my 6ft 6inch stature and years of MMA training.. I would relieve her of the blade, quickly carve 'chav' on her forehead and then disapear in a cloud of smoke and mirrors.

Fer

7,774 posts

310 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Women are the gentler sex, as long as they remain so.

Once the knife is brought into play, all bets are off.

Digga

48,425 posts

313 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Someone pulls a knife, it's them that has made the first step outside of the law.

AFAIK, from there on in, they are the author of whatever misfortune follows. Morally, they should be shown no mercy.

Adenauer

18,982 posts

266 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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UncleRic said:
Seeing as this is the internet, combined with my 6ft 6inch stature and years of MMA training.. I would relieve her of the blade, quickly carve 'chav' on her forehead and then disapear in a cloud of smoke and mirrors.
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NDA

25,732 posts

255 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I would not be confident of disarming or of decking a female armed with a knife.

I would probably offer her chocolates and champagne.

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

214 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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do what croc dundee does ..


Reload

1,530 posts

204 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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humpbackmaniac said:
she waived the right to be treated as a lady by not acting as one.
I think this is the key.

If you behave like a dirty, street tormenting, moronic piece of gutter filth then expect to be treated in the same light.

Jasandjules

72,631 posts

259 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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NDA said:
I would probably offer her chocolates and champagne.
If you made it 40 B&H and 6 cans of Stella you might have more success.

As to the OP, no qualms about punching her out then. I'd rather hit a woman than get stabbed.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

241 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I think that if someone comes at you with a knife they lose all 'rights' to be treated with any civility what so ever. Personally the idea of a brick appeals, as does any approach that leaves them requiring more than a short visit to A&E, a sob story to the social worker and a couple of tamazipams to help them on their way.

If you pull a knife, then it's fair to say you are prepared to use it to kill. Expect the same level of ferocity in response and in self defence. Yes mr plod, it has to be reasonable and within the law, but judgement of what is legal and appropriate can be determined after the event.

Edited by drivin_me_nuts on Friday 28th May 08:51


edited to add: this is a particular subject that annoys the feck out of me - the somewhat bizarrer way the law appears to be on the side or those who commit the crimes. Take for example the case of someone who attacks you whilst in a car - say a carjacking. If you then used you car as a means of self defence - namely you ran them over and (unfortunately) killed them, would you be to 'blame' fot their deaths?

Now i'm clearly not advocating the use of weapons etc, but it does strike me that the law seems loaded against those who attempt to defend themselves.

Edited by drivin_me_nuts on Friday 28th May 08:56

308mate

13,758 posts

252 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Fer said:
Once the knife is brought into play, all bets are off.
Correctamundo.

cottonfoo

6,053 posts

240 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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What happened after you laughed at her and walked off? Hopefully she'll not bother again, but the cynic in my thinks she'll feel she lost face in front of her brave friends 50 yeards away and will go further next time ...

Jgtv

2,130 posts

227 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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With her trying to rob you, in my eyes this removes all her rights to not being teated as a man, The fact she has a knife just reduces them down to the level that if you have the chance give her a bloody good hiding.

The 3 mates would probably put me off more than the knife of actually trying to fight her as 4 on 1 are stupid odds, 4 on 1 and they might all be carrying well thats just asking for trouble. probably be tempted to give one swift hit and then be away on my toes before anything really bad could happen.

omgus

7,305 posts

205 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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One of my old drinking buddies was glassed in the 'spoons in Camberley by a bird. 39 stitches, nearly lost an eye and when he went down she tried to stamp on him. His best mate was there and is a big old bruiser so as she tried to stamp on him said mate lamped her, hard. He has always been against hitting women but as he said to the BiB,
"if you are hard enough to attack someone like that, you are definitely hard enough to take the beating if they fight back.".

I fell that in the situation the OP describes these are wise words.


Oh and she got done for Assault and GBH, but BiB didn't even charge him.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Fer said:
Women are the gentler sex, as long as they remain so.

Once the knife is brought into play, all bets are off.
yes Drop her quicker than a lead weight!