Housemate/ tenancy headache
Discussion
I live with 2 people- one is a good mate, the other is a mentalist tramp.
We have been renting our house for 18 months but landlords now want to sell it so gave us notice 2 months ago. (our last day is Monday 31st) As I no longer want to live with one of them, I've sorted myself out and will be gone by Monday with my room tidy and clean. I've also sorted the garden and do most of the cleaning around the house as well.
The other 2 have decided to get a place together. Nice housemate works long days but found some places and asked t
t features to go see them. He went to see one 'it's alright' and 'fell asleep' last 2 days so didn't see anything else. It's now 3 days to go and they have nowhere sorted, house is a tip with their stuff (mainly tramp's) and they haven't packed a thing. Nice guy is panicking, tt now says 'well why don't you just move at a mates 1 bed flat, would be the best thing to do' Has given no clues as to what HE plans to do.
My question is, if they aren't gone my Monday would the landlord be within his rights to take another month's rent out of our deposit? It's a nice house and I'm doing my best to make sure it's left that way but this guy is risking us losing it all.
Hopefully he will leave the area and I'll never see him again, just the sound of his depressing voice or sight of his piece of st car collection makes me want to smash his face in. He's so tight he weighs in cokes cans and tries to sell me fked tyres.
He knows I can't stand him by the way, my other housemates is just too nice to be honest like I am.
Anyone in the know got any advice?
We have been renting our house for 18 months but landlords now want to sell it so gave us notice 2 months ago. (our last day is Monday 31st) As I no longer want to live with one of them, I've sorted myself out and will be gone by Monday with my room tidy and clean. I've also sorted the garden and do most of the cleaning around the house as well.
The other 2 have decided to get a place together. Nice housemate works long days but found some places and asked t
t features to go see them. He went to see one 'it's alright' and 'fell asleep' last 2 days so didn't see anything else. It's now 3 days to go and they have nowhere sorted, house is a tip with their stuff (mainly tramp's) and they haven't packed a thing. Nice guy is panicking, tt now says 'well why don't you just move at a mates 1 bed flat, would be the best thing to do' Has given no clues as to what HE plans to do.My question is, if they aren't gone my Monday would the landlord be within his rights to take another month's rent out of our deposit? It's a nice house and I'm doing my best to make sure it's left that way but this guy is risking us losing it all.
Hopefully he will leave the area and I'll never see him again, just the sound of his depressing voice or sight of his piece of s
t car collection makes me want to smash his face in. He's so tight he weighs in cokes cans and tries to sell me fked tyres.He knows I can't stand him by the way, my other housemates is just too nice to be honest like I am.
Anyone in the know got any advice?
The Char said:
I live with 2 people- one is a good mate, the other is a mentalist tramp.
We have been renting our house for 18 months but landlords now want to sell it so gave us notice 2 months ago. (our last day is Monday 31st) As I no longer want to live with one of them, I've sorted myself out and will be gone by Monday with my room tidy and clean. I've also sorted the garden and do most of the cleaning around the house as well.
The other 2 have decided to get a place together. Nice housemate works long days but found some places and asked tt features to go see them. He went to see one 'it's alright' and 'fell asleep' last 2 days so didn't see anything else. It's now 3 days to go and they have nowhere sorted, house is a tip with their stuff (mainly tramp's) and they haven't packed a thing. Nice guy is panicking, tt now says 'well why don't you just move at a mates 1 bed flat, would be the best thing to do' Has given no clues as to what HE plans to do.
My question is, if they aren't gone my Monday would the landlord be within his rights to take another month's rent out of our deposit? It's a nice house and I'm doing my best to make sure it's left that way but this guy is risking us losing it all.
Hopefully he will leave the area and I'll never see him again, just the sound of his depressing voice or sight of his piece of st car collection makes me want to smash his face in. He's so tight he weighs in cokes cans and tries to sell me fked tyres.
He knows I can't stand him by the way, my other housemates is just too nice to be honest like I am.
Anyone in the know got any advice?
Normally, if you have one tenenacy agreement then you will have joint and several liability. So, yes, you could lose your share of the despoit and be liable for damage.We have been renting our house for 18 months but landlords now want to sell it so gave us notice 2 months ago. (our last day is Monday 31st) As I no longer want to live with one of them, I've sorted myself out and will be gone by Monday with my room tidy and clean. I've also sorted the garden and do most of the cleaning around the house as well.
The other 2 have decided to get a place together. Nice housemate works long days but found some places and asked t
t features to go see them. He went to see one 'it's alright' and 'fell asleep' last 2 days so didn't see anything else. It's now 3 days to go and they have nowhere sorted, house is a tip with their stuff (mainly tramp's) and they haven't packed a thing. Nice guy is panicking, tt now says 'well why don't you just move at a mates 1 bed flat, would be the best thing to do' Has given no clues as to what HE plans to do.My question is, if they aren't gone my Monday would the landlord be within his rights to take another month's rent out of our deposit? It's a nice house and I'm doing my best to make sure it's left that way but this guy is risking us losing it all.
Hopefully he will leave the area and I'll never see him again, just the sound of his depressing voice or sight of his piece of s
t car collection makes me want to smash his face in. He's so tight he weighs in cokes cans and tries to sell me fked tyres.He knows I can't stand him by the way, my other housemates is just too nice to be honest like I am.
Anyone in the know got any advice?
Yup, as said above the landlord can. If i were you I would get everyone help and sort out the house asap. You're probably best to find out what the situation is with people moving out, before its too late.
I'm leaving my shared student house soon and i'm predicting I'm going to have to clean the whole house myself, considering none of the other house mates have ever done any cleaning even when I used to bother hoovering and cleaning up after them, they would just sit and watch tv. Shared houses are a pain in the arse if you move in with the wrong people.
I'm leaving my shared student house soon and i'm predicting I'm going to have to clean the whole house myself, considering none of the other house mates have ever done any cleaning even when I used to bother hoovering and cleaning up after them, they would just sit and watch tv. Shared houses are a pain in the arse if you move in with the wrong people.
killsta said:
cs02rm0 said:
Forewarn the landlord so he can arrange to have them kicked out on their last day?
That's what I'd do. If he was a decent landlord you could show him you've done your fair share of the cleaning and he might only hold the other two liable for the mess.
From experience, if you really want to keep your deposit you might have to swallow your pride and just sort crap housemate's life out a bit for him. Do all the cleaning and tidying of kitchen / bathroom / communal areas with the good housemate.
Crap housemate obviously still needs his mum to run his life, so you might need to take on a little of that role until you're rid of him and just try to help him get fixed up with somewhere else. Think about winning the war, not just a battle!
eta Oh, and get your own place. You won't be lonely. You will afford it. I'd rather eat my own liver than live in a houseshare again. But then it sounds like you might be at that stage...
Edited by N Dentressangle on Friday 28th May 13:48
TEKNOPUG said:
Landlord simply forcibly removes tramp.
Once he's off the premises and his lease has expired, what is he actually going to do - go to the Police?
Well yes, he could, quite legitimately. Unlawful eviction is a criminal offence. And the landlord might face a damages claim of several thousand pounds. Once he's off the premises and his lease has expired, what is he actually going to do - go to the Police?
Amateurish said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Landlord simply forcibly removes tramp.
Once he's off the premises and his lease has expired, what is he actually going to do - go to the Police?
Well yes, he could, quite legitimately. Unlawful eviction is a criminal offence. And the landlord might face a damages claim of several thousand pounds. Once he's off the premises and his lease has expired, what is he actually going to do - go to the Police?
Police go to landlord "Lease expired today, he vacated the premises as per the contract, of his own accord."
Tramps word against Landlord unless there are witnesses willing to vouch for him. Might be a bit different if there was still a valid lease.
Can't see the Police be interested.
TEKNOPUG said:
Amateurish said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Landlord simply forcibly removes tramp.
Once he's off the premises and his lease has expired, what is he actually going to do - go to the Police?
Well yes, he could, quite legitimately. Unlawful eviction is a criminal offence. And the landlord might face a damages claim of several thousand pounds. Once he's off the premises and his lease has expired, what is he actually going to do - go to the Police?
Police go to landlord "Lease expired today, he vacated the premises as per the contract, of his own accord."
Tramps word against Landlord unless there are witnesses willing to vouch for him. Might be a bit different if there was still a valid lease.
Can't see the Police be interested.
Whether there is sufficient evidence for a prosecution is another matter.
In your example where are all of the Tramp's possessions? If they have been thrown out of the house into the street, that might count against the LL...
champ54321 said:
Yup, as said above the landlord can. If i were you I would get everyone help and sort out the house asap. You're probably best to find out what the situation is with people moving out, before its too late.
I'm leaving my shared student house soon and i'm predicting I'm going to have to clean the whole house myself, considering none of the other house mates have ever done any cleaning even when I used to bother hoovering and cleaning up after them, they would just sit and watch tv. Shared houses are a pain in the arse if you move in with the wrong people.
Hire a cleaner to come in everyweek. It saves loads of grief for about £10 per person per week.I'm leaving my shared student house soon and i'm predicting I'm going to have to clean the whole house myself, considering none of the other house mates have ever done any cleaning even when I used to bother hoovering and cleaning up after them, they would just sit and watch tv. Shared houses are a pain in the arse if you move in with the wrong people.
Well I rang the landlord and bascially begged abother few days for them to get somewhere, as our contracted date is actually ending 3rd of the month as was signed on the 4th when we moved in. They wouldn't have known this unless I'd looked into it.
Tramp is now refusing to give me money for furniture I bought that they are keeping and asking me for council tax money. I've said I'll give him the differnce which is 8 quid. (Would coppers be childish?)
As for his possessions- he doesn't have any, a couple of old man wooly jumpers from the 80's, some ill fitting and stained jeans and -god help me- briefs. Ergh. This is the man who would weigh in a coke can and buys hanging cars which don't run, spends money on them and they still end up more hanging and worthless than they were before. I let him put one in my lock up and he then refused to give me the £300+ it cost me in rent. Good riddance!
Tramp is now refusing to give me money for furniture I bought that they are keeping and asking me for council tax money. I've said I'll give him the differnce which is 8 quid. (Would coppers be childish?)
As for his possessions- he doesn't have any, a couple of old man wooly jumpers from the 80's, some ill fitting and stained jeans and -god help me- briefs. Ergh. This is the man who would weigh in a coke can and buys hanging cars which don't run, spends money on them and they still end up more hanging and worthless than they were before. I let him put one in my lock up and he then refused to give me the £300+ it cost me in rent. Good riddance!
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