Red Letter Day Insurance.
Red Letter Day Insurance.
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mically

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1,204 posts

217 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Mods - please feel free to move this to the appropriate section - I'm unsure where it would go? Lounge/ General Gassing/ Speed, Plod and the Law - Business??.... very baffling :-)

Quickie for you:

I received a Red Letter day/ Experience day for in Prestwold.
I get to drive a supercar for the day, woohoo!!

Opted for the Aston Martin DB9 - but might be given the V8 instead... oh shucks! :-D :-D

Either way, on booking - I was offered insurance.
Something like £25 if I paid then and there, or £40 if I paid on the day.

Being a tight arse, I declined.
They stated that I am insured, but not insured... ??

I am insured to drive the car, on their track and without any limitations (bar my own.)
However, paranoia has set in!

If I was to have an accident; albeit I lose control, the tyre pops, an ickle bunny rabbit wants a closer look at the engine, someone bumps into me etc etc - would I be at fault? i.e. out of pocket for any repairs.

The booking-lady (sales lady maybe?) on the phone said yes, kind of, maybe. It depends.

Surely they HAVE to insure their cars, and every one that drives it, for all possibilities?
What on earth could I be liable for? Why should I pay towards the repair cost of a £130,000 vehicle used specifically for (novice) drivers going round a track as quick as possible.

OK, so not a quick question - but, you get the idea.
Is it wise to phone them up and get the insurance before my arrival? £25 is still £25!
A drop in comparison to £130,000, but that could get me 45 bottles of san miguel from testcos, and 5 lucky dips!

Answers on a postcode please :-)

mat13

1,977 posts

211 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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45 bottles of san miguel for twenty quid you say beer

mically

Original Poster:

1,204 posts

217 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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mat13 said:
45 bottles of san miguel for twenty quid you say beer
Quickly going off topic, but we need to get back on!
Yes, tescos - in sheffield, are doing any 3x cases of lager for £20. 1x case of san migeul has 15 bottles.
I'd be lucky to get 6x bottles in a club for under £20, so getting 45 is an absolute bargain. Except I'm not drinking it in a club, surrounded by totty. So maybe not totally worth it.

Anyhoos, red letter day insurance...... should I, or shouldn't I?

mat13

1,977 posts

211 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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mically said:
mat13 said:
45 bottles of san miguel for twenty quid you say beer
Quickly going off topic, but we need to get back on!
Yes, tescos - in sheffield, are doing any 3x cases of lager for £20. 1x case of san migeul has 15 bottles.
I'd be lucky to get 6x bottles in a club for under £20, so getting 45 is an absolute bargain. Except I'm not drinking it in a club, surrounded by totty. So maybe not totally worth it.

Anyhoos, red letter day insurance...... should I, or shouldn't I?
woo hoo, and yup ide go for the track day without the insurance.

Phooey

13,874 posts

199 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Just done Prestwold couple of weeks ago - drove 911 C2, 430 and the GTR bow
I was offered the insurance on the day at £25 - I declined.

Are you feeling lucky punk cool

Kitch88

590 posts

213 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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I've done one of these track day experience things before, albeit Drivers Dream Days rather than Red Letter Days.


As long as its similar to that, then you will have insurance regardless - but if you do have an accident then you cover the first £3000 or so (not the entire value of the car!). This 'extra' insurance they try and flog you will mean you pay nothing if you wreck the car.


I opted not to pay the extra, and was glad I didn't at the end, though there are probably a couple of people somewhere very glad they did...


Dave_ITR

837 posts

227 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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I have done one of these & I paid the extra £25.

I have driven a fair few high powered cars & trust my own driving but when there are others out at the same time I wanted to be sure I had no liability.



cronk-flakes

3,480 posts

283 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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I drove a Gallardo and 911 last year and opted for the £20 insurance.

Yes - £20 is £20, but £130,000 is life-ruining and it only takes one mistake to end up there!

But try to have fun! thumbup

Adenauer

18,982 posts

266 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Seems a bit of a no-brainer to me, pay an extra 25 quid and enjoy the day safe in the knowledge that should things go wrong, you're totally covered.

Don't pay the extra 25 quid and if it goes tits up, you're most likely going to be paying for that red letter for the rest of your life.

Edited by Adenauer on Tuesday 1st June 13:23

Phooey

13,874 posts

199 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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cronk-flakes said:
I drove a Gallardo and 911 last year and opted for the £20 insurance.

Yes - £20 is £20, but £130,000 is life-ruining and it only takes one mistake to end up there!

But try to have fun! thumbup
You would *never* have to pay £130k. If you decline the insurance you are liable for only the first £2k (may now be £3k) of the whole claim.
The instructors do not allow you to give it full beans - far from it. You would have to be a proper idiot to crash one of their cars IMO

If the peace of mind means you can enjoy your experience more, then pay the £25 driving

cronk-flakes

3,480 posts

283 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Phooey said:
cronk-flakes said:
I drove a Gallardo and 911 last year and opted for the £20 insurance.

Yes - £20 is £20, but £130,000 is life-ruining and it only takes one mistake to end up there!

But try to have fun! thumbup
You would *never* have to pay £130k. If you decline the insurance you are liable for only the first £2k (may now be £3k) of the whole claim.
The instructors do not allow you to give it full beans - far from it. You would have to be a proper idiot to crash one of their cars IMO

If the peace of mind means you can enjoy your experience more, then pay the £25 driving
Fair enough, still, more than £25!

I actually didn't drive with Red Letter, and the instructor I was with told me to give it some whack. In the porker, I wasn't allowed to change up unless it red-lined! The barriers looked rather daunting!

wink

308mate

13,758 posts

252 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Pay it. Youll drive like a nancy-boy if you have the damage bill in the back of your mind.

GSP

1,965 posts

234 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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308mate said:
Pay it. Youll drive like a nancy-boy if you have the damage bill in the back of your mind.
You'll drive like a nancy boy anyway as they don't let you drive any other way wink

VXED

383 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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I did the Prestwold one a couple of weeks ago in a Gallardo. I'm sure you have to pay the first £2,000 if you have/cause an accident. I was more worried that if you spin it your experience is ended straight away, but your not allowed to do anything that would even get close to provoking a spin anyway.

p.s. i got a woman instuctor who i thought would be rubbish but turned out to be ace!

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

277 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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This isn't 'insurance', its a payment to avoid paying the insurance excess if it all goes wrong. So the car still remains insured.

Corsair7

20,911 posts

277 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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would bbe surprised if the excess payment can be enforced anyway.

Phooey

13,874 posts

199 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Tony*T3 said:
This isn't 'insurance', its a payment to avoid paying the insurance excess if it all goes wrong. So the car still remains insured.
yes

sneijder

5,231 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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As stated, I wouldn't bother. You don't go full bore anyhoos.

Great fun though, I'd driven the lot in a sedate manner on the road before. Driving them in semi anger on the track is an eye opener. I was surprised with the 911 I drove, I felt I could push it more than anything else. I almost had an inkling as to where it's limits might be. I think.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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Corsair7 said:
would bbe surprised if the excess payment can be enforced anyway.
I was thinking that. It's a bit of a cheek to hire an "ordinary" member of the public a supercar car to drive on a track and then only partially insure it.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

239 months

Tuesday 1st June 2010
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It's a pricing trick it keeps the cost of the experience lower, they sell all sorts of additional drives, passenger rides, photos etc. Once you are there you can get additional laps etc. I can imagine that insuring a car for any driver on a track without an excess could be crippling. So charging £20, £25 a person as an excess waiver look at a hire car company they do similar.