What's the smallest thing that can be seen?
What's the smallest thing that can be seen?
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Chris71

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21,548 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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...with magnification that is. What's the smallest thing that we can actually capture optically rather than by inferred techniques like electron microscopes?

The question popped into my head after seeing a film of chromosones dividing. That's pretty small in everyday terms. Just how much smaller can you go?

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Not small enough frown I'm wanting to be here when we can see down to planck length to see if string theory is correct. Alas - I feel it's a long way away!!

illmonkey

19,599 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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A grain of rice

Jonny671

29,775 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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What about the atoms colliding in CERN? Thats quite small, I think you can see them on certain videos as white sparks..

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

232 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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garyhun said:
I'm wanting to be here when we can see down to planck length to see if string theory is correct.
I doubt that would ever be possible, they will find other indirect ways to prove string theory is correct imho

Frankeh

12,558 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Well electron microscope can magnify 1 million times.
So I'd say anything everso slightly bigger than an electron.

otolith

65,511 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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The limiting factor in an optical microscope is the wavelength of the light you observe the object with.

See:

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen998...


Jasandjules

71,973 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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The brain of a chav?

5potTurbo

13,495 posts

191 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Jasandjules said:
The brain of a chav?
Do they possess one, even between them, all?!

spurs-442

2,753 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Jasandjules said:
The brain of a chav?
Well at least that could be used to prove the "planck" theory hehe

Edited by spurs-442 on Wednesday 2nd June 15:32

silverMX

1,277 posts

210 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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My knob.

craggers

2,496 posts

307 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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dust (in the air when looking at sun light)

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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itsnotarace said:
garyhun said:
I'm wanting to be here when we can see down to planck length to see if string theory is correct.
I doubt that would ever be possible, they will find other indirect ways to prove string theory is correct imho
You are probably correct! Be cool though smile

Rawwr

22,722 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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An elephant.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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The observer effect starts coming into play though. So what you're really looking at might have not been happening had you not looked at it.

P9

15,169 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Jonny671 said:
What about the atoms colliding in CERN? Thats quite small, I think you can see them on certain videos as white sparks..
That's the reaction, not the atoms themselves.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

302 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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The thickness of a slice of ham in a motorway service station sandwich?

Chris71

Original Poster:

21,548 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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P9 said:
Jonny671 said:
What about the atoms colliding in CERN? Thats quite small, I think you can see them on certain videos as white sparks..
That's the reaction, not the atoms themselves.
That was my assumption.

I must admit I don't know exactly how they work, but wouldn't anything on an electron microscope be the same? You're seeing a representation of what the electrons bounce off/interactive with/whatever rather than an actual image.

caz4213

317 posts

234 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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wavelength of (visible) light is between 400-700nm, so optically (if you could get a magnifier that big I'm not sure) the smallest object you could see would be around 400nm long. I think..

Eddh

4,656 posts

215 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
The thickness of a slice of ham in a motorway service station sandwich?
rofl

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Edited by Eddh on Wednesday 2nd June 16:13