Charities doing themselves no favours.
Charities doing themselves no favours.
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Manks

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28,176 posts

252 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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I used to make regular donations to charities, particularly if I got a windfall. The charities ranged from Help the Aged to local good causes, but I have now all but stopped.

This isn't because I have changed my mind about giving to charity, simply that I am becoming aggravated by the larger charities believing that because I have donated once it gives them an open invitation to spam me to death by every means of communication known to man.

Help the Aged and McMillan nurses are the worst. Can't get rid of the buggers. It seems that not a day goes by without receiving some form of begging letter from them.

Anyone else found the same problem?

Manks

Jasandjules

72,611 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Yep.

We now give donations to the local charities instead.

joebongo

1,517 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Had a friend who's Dad died quite young from cancer, so she had a regular direct debit setup with one of the big cancer charities.

They were constantly phoning her for more money, using the worst forms of emotional blackmail - "Do you know anyone who's had cancer?", "how would you feel if a close member of your family got cancer?". So she cancelled the direct debit.

Hitch78

6,119 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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What kind of cars do these charity people drive?

Hitch78

6,119 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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joebongo said:
I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...
Fair play, but those figures are pretty small when compared to running similarly large organisations in the private, and even the public sector. Charity management is a career choice, not a vocation, so there is a market and therefore a need to attract the best people through competitive packages.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

260 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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joebongo said:
I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...
Christ.

There are so many on that list with salaries over over £100k. I'm sorry but i don't care how hard you've worked to get there - if it's a charity they could get someone to do just as good a job for half of that.

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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I'm just about to cancel my Red Cross donation due to a marketing company asking me to up my DD. Takes the piss IMO especially when I specifically asked them not to pass on my details!

carreauchompeur

18,323 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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I agree. I suppose stats-wise previous donators are far more likely to donate again, but it does piss me off something chronic. I'll regularly donate to things that have a local connection, or indeed friends doing sponsored events, but don't like the idea of a DD, it has less meaning to me than a few large donations. Hate chuggers too!!

DocJock

8,722 posts

270 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Same here.

Now just give direct to H4H and Cancer Research.
Collection box for a kids charity in our reception and my Vpower points to MacMillan.

That's it, the rest goes in the bin.

Sheets Tabuer

21,463 posts

245 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Muscular dystrophy isn't on there, they could use some cash wink

t84

6,941 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Beefmeister said:
joebongo said:
I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...
Christ.

There are so many on that list with salaries over over £100k. I'm sorry but i don't care how hard you've worked to get there - if it's a charity they could get someone to do just as good a job for half of that.
Salvation Army guy on 10k?

Somnophore

1,364 posts

206 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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The problem is "professional" fundraisers they're just sales people who will do anything to generate revenue, the end doesn't justify the means in my opinion, had some come round my mums when I was there a while back, fundraising for premature baby charity, she said shed give X amount as she like baby charity stuff as she works with kids, anyway I can hear this whole coversation and I hear this guy pressure selling a higher contribution 3x what my mum had offered by saying "if you dontate this amount you would be saving 3 more babies" !!!

You can't say stuff like that, what is she supposed to say "no I'm sorry Id prefer the babies died". She probably would have bullied into it had I not got up, gone mental at them, told them they were getting nothing and that I'd be reporting them to their bosses. Bloody terrible nowadays.

Edited by Somnophore on Wednesday 7th July 14:49

Celt

1,264 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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t84 said:
Beefmeister said:
joebongo said:
I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...
Christ.

There are so many on that list with salaries over over £100k. I'm sorry but i don't care how hard you've worked to get there - if it's a charity they could get someone to do just as good a job for half of that.
Salvation Army guy on 10k?
If that isnt a misprint that is brilliant! Top marks for somebody who could presumably make a damn sight more in other charites or private sector.

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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mr_fibuli said:
Had a friend who's Dad died quite young from cancer, so she had a regular direct debit setup with one of the big cancer charities.

They were constantly phoning her for more money, using the worst forms of emotional blackmail - "Do you know anyone who's had cancer?", "how would you feel if a close member of your family got cancer?". So she cancelled the direct debit.
A friend of mine works at a charity on a CRM system to address this specific issue. Stop the mis-communication and make sure that the charity communicates effectively, accurately and fairly in the way that the person donating is happy and comfortable. Good idea and he's doing a great job so far.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Christ, £100k to run the Donkey Sanctuary out of income of only £16m.

Edited by CaptainSlow on Wednesday 7th July 14:55

LukeBird

17,170 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Completely agree.
I'm very careful over where I donate.
It's utterly, utterly disgraceful to guilt people into donating. mad

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Hitch78 said:
joebongo said:
I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...
Fair play, but those figures are pretty small when compared to running similarly large organisations in the private, and even the public sector. Charity management is a career choice, not a vocation, so there is a market and therefore a need to attract the best people through competitive packages.
Absolutely

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Beefmeister said:
joebongo said:
I check the chief exec's salaries now and I'm sorry, but that's off the scale for a charity in my book for most of them.

Poppies and RAFA yes cos of family but no to the rest.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0...
Christ.

There are so many on that list with salaries over over £100k. I'm sorry but i don't care how hard you've worked to get there - if it's a charity they could get someone to do just as good a job for half of that.
rubbish

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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CaptainSlow said:
Christ, £100k to run the Donkey Sanctuary out of income of only £16m.

Edited by CaptainSlow on Wednesday 7th July 14:55
why is that even a charity?