Chavs/Charvers/etc: Solution?
Discussion
Right,
How's this for a half-baked idea?
With the country only looking to be headed for further "chav burden" in the future, why don't we do something about it?
The economic and social impact of these degenerates is indisputable...they're parasites feasting on the prosperity of decent members of society, while simultaneously being obnoxious, threatening and unsociable towards them. At least a mosquito has the decency to be f
king discrete!
SO, what if we could instill some old-fashioned values in their minds? What if we could make them work for the country? What if we could get them away from the street corners and give them positive a meaning and purpose to their lives?
How about bringing back national service?
At the age of 16/18 (depending on whether you are studying for A-levels/equivalent) you complete 1 year of compulsory army service. If you do not show satisfactory behaviour, you have to repeat the year...
The discipline, order, proper working values etc could really have a positive impact on "da yoof ov 2dai init", they might even set themselves up with a career?
What do you all think?
How's this for a half-baked idea?
With the country only looking to be headed for further "chav burden" in the future, why don't we do something about it?
The economic and social impact of these degenerates is indisputable...they're parasites feasting on the prosperity of decent members of society, while simultaneously being obnoxious, threatening and unsociable towards them. At least a mosquito has the decency to be f
king discrete!SO, what if we could instill some old-fashioned values in their minds? What if we could make them work for the country? What if we could get them away from the street corners and give them positive a meaning and purpose to their lives?
How about bringing back national service?
At the age of 16/18 (depending on whether you are studying for A-levels/equivalent) you complete 1 year of compulsory army service. If you do not show satisfactory behaviour, you have to repeat the year...
The discipline, order, proper working values etc could really have a positive impact on "da yoof ov 2dai init", they might even set themselves up with a career?
What do you all think?
utgjon said:
Mexic0 said:
You are Harry brown aicmfp.
who dat?and what does aicmfp mean? (and i claim my free prize?)
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ICMFP
ukwill said:
It's not the Army's problem - nor should it be their burden.
i see your point, and i do accept this. however, the counter-argument is that as a government entity it is more their burden to bear than their neighbours and other people in the vicinity...
Edited by utgjon on Tuesday 24th August 18:54
If they don't give a crap in the street what makes people think they will give a crap in the forces, it is not 1850 they won't get flogged for not doing as they are told.
How about stop making it easy for people to "live apart" I'm not an old fart but all the lads knew how far to go in case their dad found out. Nowadays kids are just not getting a good old fashioned smacked arse and a 14 year old lad can tell mum to sod off knowing she is not going to beat the crap out of him because he is bigger.
How about stop making it easy for people to "live apart" I'm not an old fart but all the lads knew how far to go in case their dad found out. Nowadays kids are just not getting a good old fashioned smacked arse and a 14 year old lad can tell mum to sod off knowing she is not going to beat the crap out of him because he is bigger.
I do think National Service is the answer, but it would need to be something associated with but distinct from the Army proper.
In other words if you choose to the Army as career as is the case now, you are not lumped together with NS lot.
Rather redundant Army / Navy / Raf bases and staff could be reactivated enlisted employed to look after the NS group.
If you do well, and want to upgrade to the Army proper all well and good.
Alongside the traditional but distinct NS force there would have to a smaller subset for those who would claim conscience reasons - perhaps doing litter picking and ditch clearing.
In other words if you choose to the Army as career as is the case now, you are not lumped together with NS lot.
Rather redundant Army / Navy / Raf bases and staff could be reactivated enlisted employed to look after the NS group.
If you do well, and want to upgrade to the Army proper all well and good.
Alongside the traditional but distinct NS force there would have to a smaller subset for those who would claim conscience reasons - perhaps doing litter picking and ditch clearing.
andy_s said:
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And Buckfast.
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National service doesn't have to mean the army.
However I would call it Public Service - you have to dao a year between 18 - 23 - your decision. You could work as a carer (NHS) or in private medical centers (care homes, private hospital etc) or you could do a year in the National Defence (RAF, Army, Navy) or a year in the civil service, or local council projects.
Others might include big civil engineering, Railtrack, Highways agencies or even the national trust..(loads of unskilled roles there)
Or perhaps a years apprenticeship in a recongnised and qualifing trade - y'know something in the national interest - like Electrician, Plummer, Builder
Ideally I'd bring back proper vocational apprenticeships from age 14 up wards. Two years as a Apprentice, Two years as a trainee, two year to qualify and then another five to achieve "master" status. Tied to day release and recognise diplomas. (not GNVQs which have by an large been not very well recieved by industry.
Some of these Children have never had any responsibility or accountability and some of them are looking for a challenge and some status.
However I would call it Public Service - you have to dao a year between 18 - 23 - your decision. You could work as a carer (NHS) or in private medical centers (care homes, private hospital etc) or you could do a year in the National Defence (RAF, Army, Navy) or a year in the civil service, or local council projects.
Others might include big civil engineering, Railtrack, Highways agencies or even the national trust..(loads of unskilled roles there)
Or perhaps a years apprenticeship in a recongnised and qualifing trade - y'know something in the national interest - like Electrician, Plummer, Builder
Ideally I'd bring back proper vocational apprenticeships from age 14 up wards. Two years as a Apprentice, Two years as a trainee, two year to qualify and then another five to achieve "master" status. Tied to day release and recognise diplomas. (not GNVQs which have by an large been not very well recieved by industry.
Some of these Children have never had any responsibility or accountability and some of them are looking for a challenge and some status.
Mexic0 said:
utgjon said:
Mexic0 said:
You are Harry brown aicmfp.
who dat?and what does aicmfp mean? (and i claim my free prize?)
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ICMFP
utgjon said:
Right,
How's this for a half-baked idea?
With the country only looking to be headed for further "chav burden" in the future, why don't we do something about it?
The economic and social impact of these degenerates is indisputable...they're parasites feasting on the prosperity of decent members of society, while simultaneously being obnoxious, threatening and unsociable towards them. At least a mosquito has the decency to be fking discrete!
SO, what if we could instill some old-fashioned values in their minds? What if we could make them work for the country? What if we could get them away from the street corners and give them positive a meaning and purpose to their lives?
How about bringing back national service?
At the age of 16/18 (depending on whether you are studying for A-levels/equivalent) you complete 1 year of compulsory army service. If you do not show satisfactory behaviour, you have to repeat the year...
The discipline, order, proper working values etc could really have a positive impact on "da yoof ov 2dai init", they might even set themselves up with a career?
What do you all think?
Yeah I agree with you. Totally half baked. Why not just gas the little feckers.How's this for a half-baked idea?
With the country only looking to be headed for further "chav burden" in the future, why don't we do something about it?
The economic and social impact of these degenerates is indisputable...they're parasites feasting on the prosperity of decent members of society, while simultaneously being obnoxious, threatening and unsociable towards them. At least a mosquito has the decency to be f
king discrete!SO, what if we could instill some old-fashioned values in their minds? What if we could make them work for the country? What if we could get them away from the street corners and give them positive a meaning and purpose to their lives?
How about bringing back national service?
At the age of 16/18 (depending on whether you are studying for A-levels/equivalent) you complete 1 year of compulsory army service. If you do not show satisfactory behaviour, you have to repeat the year...
The discipline, order, proper working values etc could really have a positive impact on "da yoof ov 2dai init", they might even set themselves up with a career?
What do you all think?
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