80/20 in meetings

[stigmundfreud]

Tend to avoid the bullst bingo lingo that goes on in meetings but recently at work we've had an influx of contractor PM's. As a result of this influx we get trends in phrases, the current trend being 80/20. Effectively everything is always 80% of one thing 20% of the other. Its a constant split and the phrase 80/20 is always brought out.

Where did this originate from? Is there someone that can be held accountable and shot?

[Urban Sports]

Pareto's Law?????

[Flintstone]

How people put up with this st without asking them to stop is beyond me.

[amirzed]

pareto optimality?

don't think that's related to 80/20 in any is it?

[Liszt]

Urban Sports said:

Pareto's Law?????

What he said. Google it.

[Romanymagic]

Its amazing how quickly 50/50 has been replaced...

[stigmundfreud]

Flintstone said:

How people put up with this st without asking them to stop is beyond me.

well I have made a pledge to myself and now to you, in the next meeting someone trotts this st out I will ask them for some gant charts to highlight the 80/20 split then call bks on it

[stigmundfreud]

Liszt said:

Urban Sports said:

Pareto's Law?????

What he said. Google it.

oh and MOSCOW?

Its a rot of st thats flooded in with the latest band of graduates and buzz word fed contractors. Burns' Law states its all bullst

[bogwoppit]

It's complete bks. It's clearly more like 83/17.

[stigmundfreud]

bogwoppit said:

It's complete bks. It's clearly more like 83/17.

Statistically that is more accurate

[Flintstone]

stigmundfreud said:

Flintstone said:

How people put up with this st without asking them to stop is beyond me.

well I have made a pledge to myself and now to you, in the next meeting someone trotts this st out I will ask them for some gant charts to highlight the 80/20 split then call bks on it

Do report back won't you?

[Plotloss]

Simply suggest that 80/20 is an outmoded way of thinking in bleeding edge project management circles and that you, as an organisation should be aiming for the 'golden ratio'

[stigmundfreud]

Flintstone said:

stigmundfreud said:

Flintstone said:

How people put up with this st without asking them to stop is beyond me.

well I have made a pledge to myself and now to you, in the next meeting someone trotts this st out I will ask them for some gant charts to highlight the 80/20 split then call bks on it

Do report back won't you?

Will do, fortunately we have some very experienced members of staff then we have staff that have been at the company for 10+ years as school leavers that have been moulded at the company. These people have zero work experience outside the organisation and as such clasp on to outside trends that get introduced with the transient contractors. The next time I hear 80/20 I will call a stop to the meeting and request that from this point forward we waste time using such bks and concentrate on the core facts, keeping the blue sky clear for out of the box thinking.

[Flintstone]

stigmundfreud said:

Flintstone said:

stigmundfreud said:

Flintstone said:

How people put up with this st without asking them to stop is beyond me.

well I have made a pledge to myself and now to you, in the next meeting someone trotts this st out I will ask them for some gant charts to highlight the 80/20 split then call bks on it

Do report back won't you?

Will do, fortunately we have some very experienced members of staff then we have staff that have been at the company for 10+ years as school leavers that have been moulded at the company. These people have zero work experience outside the organisation and as such clasp on to outside trends that get introduced with the transient contractors. The next time I hear 80/20 I will call a stop to the meeting and request that from this point forward we waste time using such bks and concentrate on the core facts, keeping the blue sky clear for out of the box thinking.

Will there be any picking of low hanging fruit?

[stigmundfreud]

Plotloss said:

Simply suggest that 80/20 is an outmoded way of thinking in bleeding edge project management circles and that you, as an organisation should be aiming for the 'golden ratio'

I'll make a note of this phrase, I feel it may come into use as soon as tomorrow

[SeeFive]

Romanymagic said:

Its amazing how quickly 50/50 has been replaced...

Ah, 50:50 - it's still there, but these days "it's a light switch innit John".

The one measure that makes me giggle every time is the certain analyst group's "magic quadrant" which seems to have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the truth of capability, but far more bearing on how long the company has been in business, the state of deployments / organisation in the USA, and (allegedly) how much they have spent with the particular analyst company on reports, reprints and events.

[Pesty]

stigmundfreud said:

Plotloss said:

Simply suggest that 80/20 is an outmoded way of thinking in bleeding edge project management circles and that you, as an organisation should be aiming for the 'golden ratio'

I'll make a note of this phrase, I feel it may come into use as soon as tomorrow

isnt the golden ratio to do with attractivness

Hips/tits/waist basically the better the ration the fitter the bird?

the one pissing me off at my place is "moving forward" if you say it in every fking sentence it makes fk all sense.

Edited by Pesty on Thursday 2nd September 23:55

[Flintstone]

Hey stigmund. This should keep your piss simmering until tomorrow's meeting. From the 'There Is No God' thread in GG:

tonym911 said:

I agree and made this point earlier in the thread, we don't have the right linguistic ammo to shoot at this target.

[stigmundfreud]

ah that just makes me smile that stuff. Its "off of" and "80/20" that gets my goat.

[Pesty]

stigmund

I think you need to take a helicopter view of this, drill down and start repurposing rather than blamestorming.