TV in university halls
TV in university halls
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tonym911

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19,549 posts

236 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Our daughter has just started a University course. She is in a hall of residence with a very nice room and a TV, but the hall blokey says she has to buy a TV licence if she wants to watch it. Anybody know what the legal position is if she watches programmes on her PC via tvcatchup.com? I'm guessing that's too easy a solution.

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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IIRC - if you watch live TV you need one, if you watch pre-recorded (or on-demands I guess too) you don't.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

274 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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I had to have one but that was back in 1992, I doubt the rules have changed. I would think the laptop would be fine for non live stuff, but lets be honest she will watch the TV.


Edited by CatherineJ on Monday 13th September 18:55

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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CatherineJ said:
I had to have one but that was back in 1992, I doubt the rules have changed.
I doubt on-demand TV was available then though wink

Ian_sUK

735 posts

211 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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If you watch TV you need a license, doesnt matter what you watch it on. Although saying that I've never heard of anyone in halls getting a fine....

CatherineJ

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274 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Mattt said:
CatherineJ said:
I had to have one but that was back in 1992, I doubt the rules have changed.
I doubt on-demand TV was available then though wink
Yep, them were the days when it was only the Beeb, ITV and 4 & possibly 5.

Comfortably Dumb

1,237 posts

216 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Mattt said:
IIRC - if you watch live TV you need one, if you watch pre-recorded (or on-demands I guess too) you don't.
Correct, Pre-recorded is fine. She'll have to be careful with IPlayer as it streams live shows now. With the rise of services like Iplayer and 4OD I imagine this won't be the case for much longer.

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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They try and scare students - by sending random letters to halls, saying that the person in them has been witnessed watching TV and doesn't have a license.

Which would all be well and good, but they sent the letters to the Laundry Room and Kitchen on my floor (which had room numbers).

Their 'detection' vans are comical too.

ninja-lewis

5,492 posts

221 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Mattt said:
IIRC - if you watch live TV you need one, if you watch pre-recorded (or on-demands I guess too) you don't.
Correct. If she watches TVCatchup or the live streams on the BBC website, she'll need a TV licence. If she only watches non-live programmes on iPlayer etc she doesn't.

If she has a TV there's also a bunch of rules surrounding who does and doesn't need a licence in a halls situation.

tonym911

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19,549 posts

236 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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tvcatchup.com is live TV which you can watch on your computer, iPhone or games console (to quote their own blurb). Isn't the licence for your TV tuner – and so not applicable to a service which doesn't require you to have a tuner?

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

274 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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This is for students and may or may not help.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one...



Edited by CatherineJ on Monday 13th September 19:06

TuxRacer

13,966 posts

222 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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tonym911 said:
tvcatchup.com is live TV which you can watch on your computer, iPhone or games console (to quote their own blurb). Isn't the licence for your TV tuner – and so not applicable to a service which doesn't require you to have a tuner?
No.

If you watch or record live, broadcast TV, via any means be it DVB-T/S, IP, or carrier pigeon, you need a TV licence.

If you only watch on demand TV you do not need a licence.

M3333

2,347 posts

245 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Mattt said:
They try and scare students - by sending random letters to halls, saying that the person in them has been witnessed watching TV and doesn't have a license.

Which would all be well and good, but they sent the letters to the Laundry Room and Kitchen on my floor (which had room numbers).

Their 'detection' vans are comical too.
Do these detection vans actually exist? has anyone ever seen one?

The thought a 'team' of plonkers go around scanning peoples houses on a daily basis amuses me.

Disco You

3,749 posts

211 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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How do these threads always go on and on and on and on? It can be summed up in one easy sentence:

If you watch live TV then you need a license.

Don't bother buying her one, she can just watch iplayer/4od/itv player/sky player

For those of you with sky tv and sky player at home, you're allowed to add multiple computers to it, so be nice and let your kids use it wink

Pothole

34,367 posts

313 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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tonym911 said:
Our daughter has just started a University course. She is in a hall of residence with a very nice room and a TV, but the hall blokey says she has to buy a TV licence if she wants to watch it. Anybody know what the legal position is if she watches programmes on her PC via tvcatchup.com? I'm guessing that's too easy a solution.
no, too easy a solution would be buying her a TV licence.

tonym911

Original Poster:

19,549 posts

236 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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thanks to all for this helpful advice, I'll pass it on to her and let her make her own choice (which I suspect will be conditioned by finances)

12joe340

417 posts

226 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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i heard that if the laptop isnt plugged into the wall it counts as being portable so you dont need a licence, not sure how true that is tho

W00DY

16,790 posts

257 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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TuxRacer said:
tonym911 said:
tvcatchup.com is live TV which you can watch on your computer, iPhone or games console (to quote their own blurb). Isn't the licence for your TV tuner – and so not applicable to a service which doesn't require you to have a tuner?
No.

If you watch or record live, broadcast TV, via any means be it DVB-T/S, IP, or carrier pigeon, you need a TV licence.

If you only watch on demand TV you do not need a licence.
Not true. If you're a student with a home address you do not need one for watching on a device that isn't connected to mains electricity, as long as their home address has one it is covered.

They'll send letters even if you don't have a TV, getting angrier and angrier telling you to inform them if you don't have a TV. I'm not calling them to tell them I'm not using their product so they can fk off. No-one has ever even attempted to visit any property of mine let alone with a warrant.

Edited by W00DY on Monday 13th September 19:52

Cock Womble 7

29,908 posts

261 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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W00DY said:
Not true. If you're a student with a home address you do not need one for watching on a device that isn't connected to mains electricity, as long as their home address has one it is covered.
Yep. All they need is a battery-powered TV.

philmots

4,666 posts

291 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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I never had one through 4 years at university, 1 year halls then private house.

In halls every room has to have a license, likewise houses if each bedroom has a lock as it's classed as amseperate residence. (bit of a joke IMO as it's still a 'regular' house)

We used to get warning letters but we called upmsaying that room was empty etc which stopped the warnings. We also had one visit who demanded he came in to inspect, he got the door shut in his face.