Why hasn't anyone set up a credible alternative
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To Ebay?
So many complaints about the system especially now the whole onus is on the seller. Any old buyer can falsely claim their item didnt' arrive and get stuff for free. Or if sent recorded - just give them a 1 star rating on the detailed ratings - will soon have the seller limited and on higher fees.
I know about Ebid but it just doesn't seem to be attracting enough buyers.
Surely someone could throw some money at advertising and set up a site where sellers can leave negative feedback and get the private sellers flooding in.
So many complaints about the system especially now the whole onus is on the seller. Any old buyer can falsely claim their item didnt' arrive and get stuff for free. Or if sent recorded - just give them a 1 star rating on the detailed ratings - will soon have the seller limited and on higher fees.
I know about Ebid but it just doesn't seem to be attracting enough buyers.
Surely someone could throw some money at advertising and set up a site where sellers can leave negative feedback and get the private sellers flooding in.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/seller/sell-your-stuff....
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
rudecherub said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/seller/sell-your-stuff....
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Probably till you start using it, if ebay was cash on collection only, 99% of its problems would solved Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Coco H said:
I have attempted to joinj Tedvertiser - not a good time for me as being on mat leave I only have a free address. I did put my work one in to but I hope I can get back onto my work laptop.
Thanks for joining. The free/trusted email address is proving a bit of a barrier to use (although effective at keeping out scammers). I'm just working on integrating with Facebook so you can just login immediately using your Facebook account.frosted said:
rudecherub said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/seller/sell-your-stuff....
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Probably till you start using it, if ebay was cash on collection only, 99% of its problems would solved Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Another massive problem with ebay is shill bidding and sniping, I can foresee an easy route round the latter, but not the former.
Magog said:
frosted said:
rudecherub said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/seller/sell-your-stuff....
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Probably till you start using it, if ebay was cash on collection only, 99% of its problems would solved Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Another massive problem with ebay is shill bidding and sniping, I can foresee an easy route round the latter, but not the former.
Odie said:
Magog said:
frosted said:
rudecherub said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/seller/sell-your-stuff....
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Probably till you start using it, if ebay was cash on collection only, 99% of its problems would solved Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Another massive problem with ebay is shill bidding and sniping, I can foresee an easy route round the latter, but not the former.
So basically, neither will work.
Magog said:
frosted said:
rudecherub said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/seller/sell-your-stuff....
Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Probably till you start using it, if ebay was cash on collection only, 99% of its problems would solved Not used it myself, but... I've bought more from Amazon than ebay
Another massive problem with ebay is shill bidding and sniping, I can foresee an easy route round the latter, but not the former.
Ebay is just too big to be competed with as the format is tried and tested and its name is pretty much a part of daily language in the way google and coke are, the Tedvertiser is a fab idea and I hope it is sucessful as the TVR website was, Amazon isn't a bad place to sell rare or new stuff but anything in between isn't worth the hassle, there are other places like play trade and lots of site you can list books/dvds/cds that are similar to Amazon. Ebid, QXL, and any other auction sites simply do not attract anything like the traffic ebay does.
Ebay has also bought Gumtree now so its probably a matter of time before they either charge to list on there or close it down for stealing sales from ebay.
Ebay has also bought Gumtree now so its probably a matter of time before they either charge to list on there or close it down for stealing sales from ebay.
Coco H said:
I have attempted to joinj Tedvertiser - not a good time for me as being on mat leave I only have a free address. I did put my work one in to but I hope I can get back onto my work laptop.
Does your ISP not provide email with the connection? I've never heard of an ISP that doesn't. Even the really rubbish ones generally provide email.brickwall said:
Why is Ebay so dominant? Because it's a natural monopoly
The more of a monopoly on online auctioning it has the more people will list their product on that site rather than others, and the more consumers will go to that site to look for products.
That is of course very true, but there is significant discontent with ebay these days. Trying to marshall discontented people into an alternative venue is the challenge. The more of a monopoly on online auctioning it has the more people will list their product on that site rather than others, and the more consumers will go to that site to look for products.

Chris_w666 said:
Ebay has also bought Gumtree now so its probably a matter of time before they either charge to list on there or close it down for stealing sales from ebay.
This is an interesting set up now. ebay want to become more of a discount stock outlet for manufacturers and resellers. There was an interview with the CEO recently in which he actively encouraged disillusioned private punters to use gumtree instead of ebay. The downside of this is that gumtree has none of the protection that ebay offers buyers and sellers (despite its flaws it's better than nothing).So ebay moves into a more corporate space and private punters are left with a much inferior solution in Gumtree (google it and it's scary how much it comes up in crime stories).
onomatopoeia said:
Coco H said:
I have attempted to joinj Tedvertiser - not a good time for me as being on mat leave I only have a free address. I did put my work one in to but I hope I can get back onto my work laptop.
Does your ISP not provide email with the connection? I've never heard of an ISP that doesn't. Even the really rubbish ones generally provide email.Full access to freebie email addresses is a scammers paradise, so it can't be opened up completely but using Facebook should give a reasonable alternative that will also provide a 'social context' to the person.
PetrolTed said:
Chris_w666 said:
Ebay has also bought Gumtree now so its probably a matter of time before they either charge to list on there or close it down for stealing sales from ebay.
This is an interesting set up now. ebay want to become more of a discount stock outlet for manufacturers and resellers. There was an interview with the CEO recently in which he actively encouraged disillusioned private punters to use gumtree instead of ebay. The downside of this is that gumtree has none of the protection that ebay offers buyers and sellers (despite its flaws it's better than nothing).So ebay moves into a more corporate space and private punters are left with a much inferior solution in Gumtree (google it and it's scary how much it comes up in crime stories).
It is getting any competitor into peoples thoughts that is the issue, but ebay does look more and more like a factory outlet store these days. It also has a ratings system based on %ages and average points scores. So anyone selling a low volume cannot afford more than 2 or 3 bad sales before a ban comes along, and a bad sale can be because the buyer is an idiot, where the guys selling 100's of items a week can easily absorb a slip or two in their ratings. Oh and as I found last week it is quite easy to accidentally leave a 1 or 2 star rating if you are trying to do it in a hurry.
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