Latin conjugation
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Wadeski

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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I need a quick pun in Latin and want to get my grammar right.

I want to change "Persona non grata" to "person not present". The latin word for to be present is adesse.

is it as simple as "Persona non adesse" or do i need to change the verb at all?

cheers PH classics bods.

tribbles

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253 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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People called Romanes they go the house?

Wadeski

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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"adesse" comes from "ad esse" but means "to be present".

Zod

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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There's a word in English, "absent". It derives from the latin ab sunt - they are away.

Persona ab est is what you are looking for, but it's not as snappy as persona non grata.

Wadeski

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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I'm leaning towards "Persona non adesse" as per the irregular conjugation table here?

http://www.tabney.com/conjugation1.html

Zod

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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esse is the infinitive. Third person singular, present tense, indicative mood conjugation is abest.

plg

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Centurion: What is this then? Romanes eunt domus, "People called Romanes they go the house"?
Brian It-it says, "Romans, go home"!
Centurion: No, it doesn't! What's Latin for "Roman"? [grabs Brian's ear] Come on, come on!
Brian: Romanus!
Centurion: Goes like?
Brian: Annus!
Centurion: Vocative plural of annus is...?
Brian: Anni?
Centurion: [writes] Romani. And eunt? What is eunt?
Brian: "Go"! Let-
Centurion: Conjugate the verb "to go".
Brian: Ire; eo, is, it, imus, itis, eunt!
Centurion: So eunt is...?
Brian: Third person plural, present indicative. "They go!"
Centurion: But "Romans, go home" is an order, so you must use the...?
Brian: The... imperative!
Centurion: Which is...?
Brian: I!
Centurion: [twisting Brian's ear] How many Romans?
Brian: [yelling] I.. Plural, plural! Ite, ite!
Centurion: [writing] Ite. Domus? Nominative? But "go home", it is motion towards, isn't it, boy?
Brian: Dative, sir!
[The centurion promptly draws his swords and presses it against Brian's throat. Brian yells:]
No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! The... accusative, accusative! Domum, sir, ad domum!
Centurion: Except that domus takes the...?
Brian: The locative, sir!
Centurion: Which is?
Brian: Domum!
Centurion: [writing] Domum... -um [sheathing his sword] Understand?
[Brian nods eagerly]
Now, write it out a hundred times!
Brian: Yes, sir, thank you, sir! Hail Caesar!
Centurion: Hail Caesar. If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off!
Brian: Oh, thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Hail Caesar and everything, sir!

Wadeski

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Zod said:
esse is the infinitive. Third person singular, present tense, indicative mood conjugation is abest.
All hail Zod.

Zod

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Salvete!

Broomsticklady

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236 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Ave atque vale

The Excession

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Wadeski said:
I'm leaning towards "Persona non adesse" as per the irregular conjugation table here?

http://www.tabney.com/conjugation1.html
meus eyes, meus eyes, God's spiritus, meus eyes...

hehe

Zod

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Thursday 23rd September 2010
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The Excession said:
Wadeski said:
I'm leaning towards "Persona non adesse" as per the irregular conjugation table here?

http://www.tabney.com/conjugation1.html
meus eyes, meus eyes, God's spiritus, meus eyes...

hehe
Perhaps it's ancient Roman html.