Drugs and Alcohol

[axgizmo]

How much notice to you take of the piece of paper in with each box of tablets?

I'm currently on Diclofenac for 2 weeks to help back pain
Instructions say: "Avoid drinking alcohol. It may increase your risk of stomach bleeding. Avoid exposure to sunlight or tanning beds. Diclofenac can make you sunburn easier"

Now because I know I shouldn't drink, i'm dying for a Cheeky Vimto!
I'm not asking what I should do, I was just wondering how much notice people take

[Taita]

Big 50p sized Solphadol and 2 pints of Stella.

I dare you.

consequences could be quite unpleasant

[Sebo]

Taita said:

Big 50p sized Solphadol and 2 pints of Stella.

I dare you.

consequences could be quite unpleasant

what happens.

[DWS]

the key words are "Avoid drinking alcohol" Sometimes it's just so hard to avoid it.

[Taita]

Sebo said:

what happens.

Spaced out as fk.

Ask T84 off here, I remember he made that error when we lived together .

I gave one to my mate who had dislocated his knee and he doesn't remember the next 18 hours so it is potent stuff.

[RemainAllHoof]

Diclofenac is pretty strong stuff so I would avoid drinking alcoholic drinks just in case. It's not stuff you can buy off the shelf...

[payner2008]

I like to read the patient information slips.

Especially when having a crap.

[grumpy52]

read the possible side effects of the current "wonder drug " statins ,I have ,no wonder I felt so crap !

[omgus]

Considering that there is an antibiotic that has the side effect of death when mixed with alcohol, you should always read the labels.

However, I may have had to odd drink when on serious painkillers, and i won't lie, i had a fking awesome time.

[R1 CKY]

Taita said:

I gave one to my mate who had dislocated his knee and he doesn't remember the next 18 hours so it is potent stuff.

The Stella by itself would do that to me!

[condor]

Secret is to say to the Doc - give me drugs that I can still drink with

HTH

[Steffan]

grumpy52 said:

read the possible side effects of the current "wonder drug " statins ,I have ,no wonder I felt so crap !

I share your awareness of the downsides of statins.

However all drugs have side effects. Nothing comes for nothing.

Many drugs (Viagra, Nytol, Minoxidol) were developed only because the side effects turned out to be far greater and more valuable than the original condition that they were initially developed to address. Without trhe side effect they would have been dropped.

The statistical probability of reducing risk of serious heart or circulation problems by introducing Statins to a patient is massively beneficial. Literally thousands of times less risk. There are downsides and some people cannot tolerate the effects. But if you can they are lifesavers.

Incidentally, the beneficial effects of statins are now recognised to include improving blood flow in the genital area with consequent erectile improvement.

But if you cannot tolerate them I do understand.

I am seriously allergic to Morphine which given my obsessive tendencies is probably a good thing. Definitely a good thing.

[BlackVanDyke]

I'm on diclofenac long-term as part of a 'tailored' medication mix to manage a variety of issues.

It really, really isn't good for your stomach and can cause nasty ulcers quickly if you hit the right/wrong combination of bad luck and stupidity.

To manage the risk in general, never EVER take it on an empty stomach - at the very least have a glass of milk and a biscuit or similar before you take it - and don't take it more often than prescribed, if it's not keeping your pain under control then try adding paracetamol and get back to your GP.

If you're only on it for a little while it's probably easier not to bother with boozahol at all but if you really want to have a drink then you'll keep the risks as low as possible by only drinking after a proper full meal and not at the same time as taking your tablet/s.

Oh and make sure you are getting enough fluids and fibre. You Have Been Warned.

Good luck!

[mph1977]

RemainAllHoof said:

Diclofenac is pretty strong stuff so I would avoid drinking alcoholic drinks just in case. It's not stuff you can buy off the shelf...

ironically you can now buy diclofenac over the counter in pharmacies , that doesn't change the fact that diclofenac and a bellyful of booze could erode your stomach lining in a nasty painful and possibly life threatening manner

agree with Becca - that said if people are on NSAIDs long term they should be on ranitidine or a PPI ( lansoprazole/ omeprazole or one of the drasticallymorepricystillunderpatentazoles )

[PoleDriver]

From experience there are 4 things which could happen mixing drugs and alcohol:-
1) Nothing!
2) The alcohol reduces or totally negates the effect of the drug (common with antibiotics)
3) You will vomit/get the squits.
4) You will get seriously ill.

Most medication says 'avoid alcohol', unfortunately the pharmaceutical companies tend to print this as standard and the message gets watered down when you do drink and nothing happens.
I have had one or two painkillers where the instructions stated 'DO NOT TAKE WITH ALCOHOL', I normally obey those ones!

[BlackVanDyke]

mph1977 said:

RemainAllHoof said:

Diclofenac is pretty strong stuff so I would avoid drinking alcoholic drinks just in case. It's not stuff you can buy off the shelf...

ironically you can now buy diclofenac over the counter in pharmacies , that doesn't change the fact that diclofenac and a bellyful of booze could erode your stomach lining in a nasty painful and possibly life threatening manner

agree with Becca - that said if people are on NSAIDs long term they should be on ranitidine or a PPI ( lansoprazole/ omeprazole or one of the drasticallymorepricystillunderpatentazoles )

Lansoprazole here. Which incidentally is an absolute bh to persuade to go down a PEG.

[GWC]

mph1977 said:

RemainAllHoof said:

Diclofenac is pretty strong stuff so I would avoid drinking alcoholic drinks just in case. It's not stuff you can buy off the shelf...

ironically you can now buy diclofenac over the counter in pharmacies , that doesn't change the fact that diclofenac and a bellyful of booze could erode your stomach lining in a nasty painful and possibly life threatening manner

agree with Becca - that said if people are on NSAIDs long term they should be on ranitidine or a PPI ( lansoprazole/ omeprazole or one of the drasticallymorepricystillunderpatentazoles )

It's been sold under the brand name Voltarol for Donkeys years.

[mph1977]

GWC said:

It's been sold under the brand name Voltarol for Donkeys years.

the rub has but not the tablets

[mph1977]

BlackVanDyke said:

mph1977 said:

RemainAllHoof said:

Diclofenac is pretty strong stuff so I would avoid drinking alcoholic drinks just in case. It's not stuff you can buy off the shelf...

ironically you can now buy diclofenac over the counter in pharmacies , that doesn't change the fact that diclofenac and a bellyful of booze could erode your stomach lining in a nasty painful and possibly life threatening manner

agree with Becca - that said if people are on NSAIDs long term they should be on ranitidine or a PPI ( lansoprazole/ omeprazole or one of the drasticallymorepricystillunderpatentazoles )

Lansoprazole here. Which incidentally is an absolute bh to persuade to go down a PEG.

Lansoprazole fasttabs or omeprazole MUPS dissolve and go down pegs much better see if they will change the script , you can also suck fasttabs ...

[GWC]

mph1977 said:

GWC said:

It's been sold under the brand name Voltarol for Donkeys years.

the rub has but not the tablets

Fair enough, the tablets have been available since 2008. I was given a medicinal prescription of it 5 years ago when I snapped my arm off, filthy stuff, I threw it in the bin after a week of trying it.