Statins: A wonder drug or will everyone need them soon
Statins: A wonder drug or will everyone need them soon
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Steffan

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10,362 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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Given the remarkable rise in Obesity and serious circulatory health issues throughout the Western world it seems probable to me that Statins are not only here to stay but will become massively prescribed to reduce heart disease and all circulatory diseases.

Add to that the side effect recently recorded with Statins where Statins are shown to significantly improve the erectile function of the male penis in sexual activities, I can see Statins becoming more popular than Viagra.

As a Statin taker, I find my cholesterol has reduced and there has been a marked improvement in my circulatory mechanisms together with a general drop in blood pressure.

But I am aware that some individuals find serious side effects with Statins.

I am interested to hear the views of others.


ClintonB

4,967 posts

242 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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No. Regardless of what some people may think, while in theory the human body should react uniformly, in practice it doesn't. Some people will benefit immeasurably, quite a few will derive some benefit and others will have no need whatsoever.

Rach*

8,824 posts

245 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Anecdotally, most patients I see over the age of 50 take Statins and blood pressure meds.

x5x3

2,437 posts

282 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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I take statins and my chloestrol levels have gone down, i also have not had any of the quite nasty side effects some people experience, so I am sort of resigned to taking one a day for the rest of my life.

The interesting debate at the moment is whether chloestrol actually causes heart disease or not, seems the medical community just cannot make up their minds?

NDA

25,534 posts

254 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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My doc says everyone over the age of 50 should take statins.... The benefits are simply too great.

VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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I take a statin since my heart attack.

They play hell with me some days - I've been feeling like I've got the 'flu all day today, even though there's nothing wrong with me.

Rach*

8,824 posts

245 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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NDA said:
My doc says everyone over the age of 50 should take statins.... The benefits are simply too great.
Should we though? Or can we control HDL through diet? Is it easier to medicate everyone than educate and monitor the population?

Genuine, I don't know enough about statins to say

HarryW

16,010 posts

298 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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add a 75mg of asprin a day to the mix and you'll live forever............

petemurphy

10,895 posts

212 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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NDA said:
My doc says everyone over the age of 50 should take statins.... The benefits are simply too great.
the benefits to him from the drug companies?!?

according to some random thing i read the other day ( must be true.. ) statins are the highest earning drugs out there now for pharmecuticals they plug them relentlessly

jshell

12,052 posts

234 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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Interesting. I've a book on the shelf waiting to be read that warns of the dangers of statins. Maybe accelerate it's place in the queue...

VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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HarryW said:
add a 75mg of asprin a day to the mix and you'll live forever............
Statin, aspirin, bisolprolol (beta blocker) and ramipril (ACE inhibitor) - I must be immortal now!

Steffan

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10,362 posts

257 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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NDA said:
My doc says everyone over the age of 50 should take statins.... The benefits are simply too great.
Having had a number of heart related conditions and being diabetic (type 2) and overweight I have had a serious conversation with a number of cardiologists, dieticians and diabetic consultants over the last 22 year I have reached three conclusions.

Firstly my health issues have been largely caused by my lifestyle choices and the pursuit of every social activity possible to excess. I have enjoyed every moment but there has been a price to pay for my indulgence.

Secondly all the specialists I have seen have recommend drugs without which I would be dead and long gone at that. All support Statins and Giclizide and others relating to my blood pressure etc.

Invariably I have asked the question would you take these drugs if you were me. Invariably they have answered definitely yes,without question given your health issues.

Thirdly I do try to assess the risk/benefit calculation on the drugs prescribed for me, so far as a layman can.

My conclusion in relation to Statins is that the benefits are so great, that, as others have said, virtually everybody over 50 should be on statins.

And I think will be over the next ten years. Obesity is rising, Diabetes is growing and Statins are really as essential as daily aspirin another drug widely prescribed for circulatory disorders.

Hence my original question.

I think Statins will come to be a miracle drug and very widely prescribed accordingly.

rudecherub

1,997 posts

195 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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my Dad had a bypass five years ago now.

Statins were a disaster, among the side effects were repeated attacks of pancreatitis which only stopped when he stopped taking the statins.

For three years he stopped carbs, eaten read meat and fat ala atkins, and his over all cholesterol is moderately high, but his good cholosterol is very high indeed, bad is low.

I have no doubt his problems arose from highly refined white carbs and trans fats.

Steffan

Original Poster:

10,362 posts

257 months

Monday 29th August 2011
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rudecherub said:
my Dad had a bypass five years ago now.

Statins were a disaster, among the side effects were repeated attacks of pancreatitis which only stopped when he stopped taking the statins.

For three years he stopped carbs, eaten read meat and fat ala atkins, and his over all cholesterol is moderately high, but his good cholosterol is very high indeed, bad is low.

I have no doubt his problems arose from highly refined white carbs and trans fats.
There may also be a genetic link.

My grandfather was the same build as me I look like him and I am and he was Diabetic. These diseases and predispositions do seem to be largely inherited

Whilst there is not necessarily a direct genetic link a great many of these ailments definitely run in families. There is clearly a link of some sort.

White carbs and trans fats will not help but as Mr Larkin said 'they f--k us up our Mum and Dad' sad but never more true than today.