How long can a SERIOUSLY obese person expect to live?
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Hi,
I wont sugar coat it, female, early 40's. F'ing massive. Not bed ridden massive, but gave up walking 18-24 months ago in favour of an electric wheelchair. No diabetes yet (that I know of). No efforts to loose weight and although its hard to tell does seem to still be growing.
Place your bets, 50? 55?.
Cheers
I wont sugar coat it, female, early 40's. F'ing massive. Not bed ridden massive, but gave up walking 18-24 months ago in favour of an electric wheelchair. No diabetes yet (that I know of). No efforts to loose weight and although its hard to tell does seem to still be growing.
Place your bets, 50? 55?.
Cheers
Morbidly obese probably late 40's early 50's but I have no real idea. I think some people can live a suprisingly long time but with a lot of help but quality of life must be rubbish.
I can only compare to pets as this is my area of expertise! An overweight to obese cat/ dog can live quite a long life but quality of life will be s
t for most of it, with all the medical problems assosicated with obesity in humans. I always tell people when helping their pets lose weight that I'm not promising them their pet will live longer (though studies show they do) but I can almost guarantee they will have a much better quality and enjoyment of life.
I can only compare to pets as this is my area of expertise! An overweight to obese cat/ dog can live quite a long life but quality of life will be s
t for most of it, with all the medical problems assosicated with obesity in humans. I always tell people when helping their pets lose weight that I'm not promising them their pet will live longer (though studies show they do) but I can almost guarantee they will have a much better quality and enjoyment of life.They are at a seriously increased risk of uncontrolled diabetes, respiratory problems, cancer, fatty liver, blood circulatory problems (inc septicemia) skin infections etc etc all of which can be life threatening and shorten your life, it's not just the heart that struggles with obesity, the whole body does.
60+ is not old. You would be hoping for 80+ these days. I wonder how many obese - morbidly obese 80+ people there are comparedd to correct weight?
60+ is not old. You would be hoping for 80+ these days. I wonder how many obese - morbidly obese 80+ people there are comparedd to correct weight?
I am a retired Accountant.
I was profoundly obese for many years.
Throughout my fat period I never felt better, had huge amounts of energy, I ran various big businesses rushed about frequently worked 24 hours non stop, played hard, got up to unbelievably stupid things. I was an absolute pig and I loved it.
I was 17stone 4lbs at 17 years.
25stone 8 lbs at 25 years.
I am 5'8 tall (short?) and very heavily built.
Every doctor had a panic attack when I met them. You must lose weight etc you will die and so forth. All my family tried to help me lose weight my wife begged me to lose weight.
It was madness. Complete madness. I recount this because IMO
'there are none so blind as those that do not wish to see'.
Having been in exactly that position myself I know that there is nothing anyone can do except the overweight person. Entirely up to them
I know from personal experience that this is correct. Its a lifestyle choice.
Despite many, many warnings I refused to accept the facts.
Until one day my Doctor just caught me right. He was seeing me about a minor condition that required a minor op. He said to me, as was his wont ’40 years old 25 stone ++ smoking drinking and sedentary. You be dead VERY SHORTLY if you do not stop. You have GOT to lose weight and stop smoking and stop drinking. This CANNOT go on’ Very forthright, he always was. I liked him for it.
On the same day I was 40 I went into hospital for the minor op and was immediately diagnosed as Diabetic. All the doctors lost interest in my minor op and went ballistic about what I was doing to myself
Two consultants met me and said exactly what the Doctor said.
For whatever reason something clicked. I think I saw the light.
Probably the Grim Reaper on his way to collect another poor soul.
So I stopped smoking (65 a day) stopped drinking completely and went on a sensible diet (essentially weight watchers sans weigh in’s).
Twelve months later I was down to 14 stone lost 11 stone 8 lbs.
That was twenty years ago I fluctuate between fourteen and fifteen stone never over 15.
It is down to 2 things. Diet (low fat is best) and exercise.
In the beginning I swam daily because running etc was impossible at that weight.
Then as weight went biking, walking non percussive exercise.
I am (and always will be) diabetic well controlled type two best results in my surgery, I have had Heart surgery. Sundry other ailments all related to daft lifestyle. Entirely my fault.
None of the Doctors who see me worry about the weight nowadays.
In an ideal world I should weigh less but I am not, and have not been obese for over twenty years. It can be done even by a seriously overweight person. IF they MAKE THE CHANGE.
ENTIRLY UP TO THE OVERWEIGHT PERSON.
You can help: you can support their attempts to change.
It’s a lifestyle choice. I changed my diet it has changed me.
I would undoubtedly have died years ago but for: a lifestyle choice.
I do NOT seek any praise. It can be done.
Getting to 25++ stone was the daft bit. I was a fool. Do not take such risks
I was profoundly obese for many years.
Throughout my fat period I never felt better, had huge amounts of energy, I ran various big businesses rushed about frequently worked 24 hours non stop, played hard, got up to unbelievably stupid things. I was an absolute pig and I loved it.
I was 17stone 4lbs at 17 years.
25stone 8 lbs at 25 years.
I am 5'8 tall (short?) and very heavily built.
Every doctor had a panic attack when I met them. You must lose weight etc you will die and so forth. All my family tried to help me lose weight my wife begged me to lose weight.
It was madness. Complete madness. I recount this because IMO
'there are none so blind as those that do not wish to see'.
Having been in exactly that position myself I know that there is nothing anyone can do except the overweight person. Entirely up to them
I know from personal experience that this is correct. Its a lifestyle choice.
Despite many, many warnings I refused to accept the facts.
Until one day my Doctor just caught me right. He was seeing me about a minor condition that required a minor op. He said to me, as was his wont ’40 years old 25 stone ++ smoking drinking and sedentary. You be dead VERY SHORTLY if you do not stop. You have GOT to lose weight and stop smoking and stop drinking. This CANNOT go on’ Very forthright, he always was. I liked him for it.
On the same day I was 40 I went into hospital for the minor op and was immediately diagnosed as Diabetic. All the doctors lost interest in my minor op and went ballistic about what I was doing to myself
Two consultants met me and said exactly what the Doctor said.
For whatever reason something clicked. I think I saw the light.
Probably the Grim Reaper on his way to collect another poor soul.
So I stopped smoking (65 a day) stopped drinking completely and went on a sensible diet (essentially weight watchers sans weigh in’s).
Twelve months later I was down to 14 stone lost 11 stone 8 lbs.
That was twenty years ago I fluctuate between fourteen and fifteen stone never over 15.
It is down to 2 things. Diet (low fat is best) and exercise.
In the beginning I swam daily because running etc was impossible at that weight.
Then as weight went biking, walking non percussive exercise.
I am (and always will be) diabetic well controlled type two best results in my surgery, I have had Heart surgery. Sundry other ailments all related to daft lifestyle. Entirely my fault.
None of the Doctors who see me worry about the weight nowadays.
In an ideal world I should weigh less but I am not, and have not been obese for over twenty years. It can be done even by a seriously overweight person. IF they MAKE THE CHANGE.
ENTIRLY UP TO THE OVERWEIGHT PERSON.
You can help: you can support their attempts to change.
It’s a lifestyle choice. I changed my diet it has changed me.
I would undoubtedly have died years ago but for: a lifestyle choice.
I do NOT seek any praise. It can be done.
Getting to 25++ stone was the daft bit. I was a fool. Do not take such risks
An obese person (BMI over 30) lives on average 9 years less than a healthy weight person. BMI of over 40 lives on average 13 years less.
Those figures are based on clinical trial evidence so should be somewhere on google if you want to dig.
Eta in response to post above, it is better (as in you live longer) to be overweight with BMI over 25 but under 30 and fit rather than healthy weight and unfit.
Those figures are based on clinical trial evidence so should be somewhere on google if you want to dig.
Eta in response to post above, it is better (as in you live longer) to be overweight with BMI over 25 but under 30 and fit rather than healthy weight and unfit.
Edited by toxicated on Wednesday 7th September 23:33
bull996 said:
I know a guy well who is even fatter than me!
He must be 25 stone, but holy st can he walk! He will fell walk or walk round the Lake District for 12 hours a day, no problem. He often walks 20 miles a day and isnt even out of breath. He is the fittest person I know
My best mate frightens me, he's probably just over 20 stone (5'9") and drinks a lot at weekends (dart player)He must be 25 stone, but holy s
t can he walk! He will fell walk or walk round the Lake District for 12 hours a day, no problem. He often walks 20 miles a day and isnt even out of breath. He is the fittest person I know However, come Monday night, he dons on a pair of astros and can play football for a full hour, okay he's not as fast as he should be, but he runs.
He's massively overweight though, I wish to dear god something would click with him.
Ditto Winston Churchill who was seriously overweight, smoked cigars and drank very heavily until he died `aged 93?
But few people have the constitution of Winston Churchill.
You are correct obesity is a slow and silent killer.
But it is is a lifestyle choice and in late middle age the joints give up apart from everything else in an obese person.
I certainly feel better now from losing the weight. I would be dead had I not.
But few people have the constitution of Winston Churchill.
You are correct obesity is a slow and silent killer.
But it is is a lifestyle choice and in late middle age the joints give up apart from everything else in an obese person.
I certainly feel better now from losing the weight. I would be dead had I not.
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