For us desk jockeys - we're f**ked then yes?

[bosshog]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39523298/ns/health-men...

Edited by bosshog on Thursday 19th April 12:23

[Rude Girl]

Have a look on iplayer for a recent episode of Horizon called 'The Truth about Exercise'. A bloke at work recommended it to me, and after seeing it, I made Podie watch it when he got in. Covered a lot of the stuff in this article, and some more stuff too. Scary and fascinating all at the same time.

[mattikake]

Ah good old Horizon creating a story out of tiny amounts of "evidence". sometimes it's more like an elaborate news media article. That was sold as a means to get fit, get fitter, but it was only for someone who is already sedentary. If you are sedentary, any amount of exercise will be beneficial. It was by no means whatsoever, a replacement for exercise for someone who is already fit and active, but you could include it as part of you exercise routine anyway.

Anyway, deskjobs. Old news. 40 years sat at a desk could be costing you 20 years of life.

That's not the problem though. It's all the back pain, headaches, dizziness, lack of energy, depression, stress, frustration, demotiviation etc. etc. that you get on your way to an early death that a deskjob brings you want to look forward to. Dying 20 years early is just a release from your hell.

[LordGrover]

That's alright then.

[MacGee]

mattikake said:

Ah good old Horizon creating a story out of tiny amounts of "evidence". sometimes it's more like an elaborate news media article. That was sold as a means to get fit, get fitter, but it was only for someone who is already sedentary. If you are sedentary, any amount of exercise will be beneficial. It was by no means whatsoever, a replacement for exercise for someone who is already fit and active, but you could include it as part of you exercise routine anyway.

Anyway, deskjobs. Old news. 40 years sat at a desk could be costing you 20 years of life.

That's not the problem though. It's all the back pain, headaches, dizziness, lack of energy, depression, stress, frustration, demotiviation etc. etc. that you get on your way to an early death that a deskjob brings you want to look forward to. Dying 20 years early is just a release from your hell.

[milu]

Makes me chuckle.
I'm in homes almost everyday,where most of my customers are retired.
90% of the ones in their 80's are retired 'pen-pushers' and doing very well thank you!

I don't see many old,miners,steelworkers,road diggers etc. They're all worn out/long gone.

[essexplumber]

I could never work full time in an office for a number of reasons, the above just affirms my contentment in my choice of career.

[Driller]

What a load of bks.

The say 160 years ago men would walk the equivalent of 3-8 miles a day.

And what was the average life expectancy 160 years ago?

[br d]

I've done hard physical graft for the last 28 years of my life. Early starts, late days, loads of stress and just ignoring all the aches and pains and getting on with it. During all that time only once did I work in an office, for just 2 months and I thought I would go insane. Being stuck inside all day and working to the clock was like torture, I just knew that my normal outdoor, non-stop working lifestyle was so much better.

Recently though I have started to suffer various complaints and problems directly related to my work. It transpires that I have pretty much knackered my body with all the effort.

I wouldn't change it, I have loved my working life and the challenges have made me what I am today (for better or worse), but on reflection I think an office job with an hour in the gym each day is going to give you a much better old age than a lifetime of hard physical work.
YMMV of course.

[mattikake]

Driller said:

What a load of bks.

The say 160 years ago men would walk the equivalent of 3-8 miles a day.

And what was the average life expectancy 160 years ago?

Better Healthcare? Sanitation? Screening? Understanding of the human condition? Technology? Too many factors to make that statement worth anything.

Br d, depends what your outside job was. Was it as natural as hunting and gathering - Loads of walking, a fair bit of jogging, occasional sprints, carrying light loads, with social company, sex at anytime of the day, eating good natural foods when you feel like it etc. etc.? Unlikely.

It's one of those things that's imppossible to prove, so 20 years is used as shock factor. You'd have to have two identicle people, one in and office job and one not in an experiment that had a duration of a lifetime. Human rights would always stand in the way of such an experiment.

However, the symptoms I listed, particularly related to posture pain (leg, back, neck, head ache) are a proven fact of spending too much time sitting and can be cured by working hard diametrically against the nature of sitting - good targetted gym work in other words.

[N88]

How the Men's Health are still going I don't know.

[Driller]

mattikake said:

Driller said:

What a load of bks.

The say 160 years ago men would walk the equivalent of 3-8 miles a day.

And what was the average life expectancy 160 years ago?

Better Healthcare? Sanitation? Screening? Understanding of the human condition? Technology? Too many factors to make that statement worth anything.

Not sure sure whose statement you are saying is not worth anything.

[i]Of course all[\i] of the above, the point is, is all that renders the difference of walking 3-8 miles a day between now and then insignificant.

[mattikake]

Driller said:

mattikake said:

Driller said:

What a load of bks.

The say 160 years ago men would walk the equivalent of 3-8 miles a day.

And what was the average life expectancy 160 years ago?

Better Healthcare? Sanitation? Screening? Understanding of the human condition? Technology? Too many factors to make that statement worth anything.

Not sure sure whose statement you are saying is not worth anything.

[i]Of course all[\i] of the above, the point is, is all that renders the difference of walking 3-8 miles a day between now and then insignificant.

Fair enough. AS I say, it's almost impossible to measure with any degree of scientific worth. But there are many physiological and biomechanical functions that are clear clues that we are designed to walk/run 20 miles or more a day. To my knowledge all of such have been scientifically proven, albeit some only recently.

For some starters, our bodies have several biological springs. Designed for energy recovery assosicated with walking and running - our spine is a curved spring, we have arches in our feet to recover impact energy and we run on our toes (when barefoot) which act as a spring when combine with arches, leg function and our spines. All these systems are connected by ligaments and tendons which respond like springs, indeed the ancient human spring were sinews - animal tendons.

These springs along with our core muscles, also work to keep our heads stable, like a biological gyroscope, perfect of maintaining target focus and balance.

We have disproportionaly large muscles in our arses - Glutes - designed to power walking and running, along with endurance muscles all through our legs, so we can cover large distances and tire out our prey.

We sweat rather than pant. This means we can cool ourselves when moving and with evoporation, cool better while moving - other animals, particularly prey animals, don't and overheat quickly, meaning they have to stop running after a short time to cool down, at which point humans move in for the kill. Again, we tired out our prey.

etc. etc.

None of these systems are of any use for sitting, despite what you might think our arses are good for!