Beer belly and love handles
Beer belly and love handles
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crazy about cars

Original Poster:

4,454 posts

198 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Is it true that fat around these areas are the hardest to loose for men?

I am cutting down on my beer consumption, watching my calory intake and do light to moderate cardio every evening. So far no difference yet but it's only been a week :P

Besides going to the gym is there anything else I can do at home to help target these areas?

MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

170 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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crazy about cars said:
Is it true that fat around these areas are the hardest to loose for men?

I am cutting down on my beer consumption, watching my calory intake and do light to moderate cardio every evening. So far no difference yet but it's only been a week :P

Besides going to the gym is there anything else I can do at home to help target these areas?
It's the last place you'll lose it, same for everyone!

It'll go face, arms, shoulders then gut... Unfortunately!

bks to calorie intake, just eat clean and get plenty of good fat and protein. Nuts, eggs, chicken, beef, fish veg etc.

Just entirely stop eating pies, chocolate (although I'm a fan of dark chocolate) cakes, crisps, and drinking pop of any kind. Sounds obvious but easier said than done, at least initially.

I took the diet and cardio to the absolute extreme and got reasonably lean. Then I relaxed the diet, moderate cardio but stopped drinking aaaand... My muscles ballooned and I got REALLY lean! Totally stunned by how much of a difference cutting the booze made.




crazy about cars

Original Poster:

4,454 posts

198 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Thanks for the advise matey! Yeah, I have been a real naughty boy... I drank 2+ pints every evenin followed by crisps before bed (mainly due to all the stress at work...) but I'm starting to get worried now that some of my trousers won't fit properly anymore! Also just checked on BBC health website and my BMI is now 26 frown

I'll now only drink max 1 bottle of Bud (if any) every evening and around 3 pints during weekends. I do light cardio (1 hour job/cycle) almost every evening after work.

Regarding the diet I'm no expert but I do have annoying heartburn problem (which could be triggered by my unhealthy diet) so I need to keep myself topped up. Started counting the calories (man maths!) to help me cut down. Mainly chicken/fish and lots of vege followed by pasta / rice nowadays.

I don't want to be super buff just want to fit in my trousers properly and no "beer belly" bulge when bending down lol.

MocMocaMoc said:
It's the last place you'll lose it, same for everyone!

It'll go face, arms, shoulders then gut... Unfortunately!

bks to calorie intake, just eat clean and get plenty of good fat and protein. Nuts, eggs, chicken, beef, fish veg etc.

Just entirely stop eating pies, chocolate (although I'm a fan of dark chocolate) cakes, crisps, and drinking pop of any kind. Sounds obvious but easier said than done, at least initially.

I took the diet and cardio to the absolute extreme and got reasonably lean. Then I relaxed the diet, moderate cardio but stopped drinking aaaand... My muscles ballooned and I got REALLY lean! Totally stunned by how much of a difference cutting the booze made.

Xerstead

724 posts

207 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Sound like you're off to a good start smile You could consider adding some weights/resistance work as well. Pushups don't require any fancy kit and a decent set of dumbells is fairly cheap and can really help with fat loss.
Added bonus is you'll look better when the fat has gone and greater muscle mass results in more claories being used even when resting smile

With regards to diet, just think before eating: Is this good for me or will it help fill my stomach?
Obvious answers: Fruit, Veg, rice, pasta, meat - yes. Crisps, sweets, cola - No.


Edited by Xerstead on Monday 13th August 21:46

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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MocMocaMoc said:
It's the last place you'll lose it, same for everyone!

It'll go face, arms, shoulders then gut... Unfortunately!

bks to calorie intake, just eat clean and get plenty of good fat and protein. Nuts, eggs, chicken, beef, fish veg etc.

Just entirely stop eating pies, chocolate (although I'm a fan of dark chocolate) cakes, crisps, and drinking pop of any kind. Sounds obvious but easier said than done, at least initially.

I took the diet and cardio to the absolute extreme and got reasonably lean. Then I relaxed the diet, moderate cardio but stopped drinking aaaand... My muscles ballooned and I got REALLY lean! Totally stunned by how much of a difference cutting the booze made.
You understand your example is because of calorie intake right?

Flibble

6,538 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Try cutting the weekday beers entirely - it might help your heartburn and it'll definitely help you to lose some weight. It's much better for your liver to not feed it with alcohol everyday, just weekends isn't a big problem though (that said, beer and wine are full of calories).

bosshog

1,795 posts

305 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Exercise (though v important) doesn't have that much effect on loosing weight if you are already moderately active. It really is a calories thing - but its pretty easy to modify your diet and not eat less, and loose weight. I went from 21 to 15 bmi like this within 2 months. Biggest thing by far, by far, BY FAR (just to emphasis) was cutting out carbs. No bread, crisps, biscuits, sugar , and unfortunately alcohol.

If you cannot be arsed thinking about it the simple rule:
I just drank at the weekend (one night ideally)
No sandwiches (soup/salad/meat instead)
Replace carbs with lean meat/fish.
Eat loads of veg/salad instead of bread/potatoes.

Watch out for cerials as well - they contain a massive amount - best is Weetabix or sachet of porridges or believe it or not things like cocoa pops/corn flakes - avoid muesli big time.


MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Tiggsy said:
You understand your example is because of calorie intake right?
Haha, wellll... I don't think so, actually.

I paid more than enough attention to my intake when drinking, but the difference cutting booze has made has been so dramatic I'm convinced there's more to it - how booze inhibits growth hormones, or whatever.

But, yeah certainly the calories in booze is a factor.

LordGrover

34,150 posts

241 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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The 'latest greatest' thing is intermittent fasting (IF). Have a google or search hereabouts, it's been topical of late.

theshrew

6,008 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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MocMocaMoc said:
Haha, wellll... I don't think so, actually.

I paid more than enough attention to my intake when drinking, but the difference cutting booze has made has been so dramatic I'm convinced there's more to it - how booze inhibits growth hormones, or whatever.

But, yeah certainly the calories in booze is a factor.
I have to agree with this chap

I started to work out, eat healthy dropped weight and felt better. After a couple of months I then decided to calm the drinking down i went from drinking every night to just at weekends the difference was huge. The weight flew off me and i felt so much better in genral + i slept a lot better.

Ive been a bit naughty just lately and been drinking more again but ive cleared the house of all alcohol at weekend back to being a good boy again now.

LordGrover

34,150 posts

241 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Fat loss and alcohol is interesting and debatable - evidence for both sides. As it means I can still drink I currently favour this view: click. wink

crazy about cars

Original Poster:

4,454 posts

198 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Thanks for the advise (and lack of fat jokes) chaps biggrin

Yeah, I understand my alcohol intake is affecting my health and age doesn't help either! I've been drinking loads but it's really noticable once I hit the big 3-0 last year.

I've cut down my beer intake a whole lot (I used to go through x 2 crates of Bud a week easy) but now I try to fit a 12 pack for the week. I only do moderate exercise because of time contraints but I do keep myself active whenever I could. That said, no gym-type stuff but rather things like jogging, cycling, garderning (yes, quite lot of effort involved biggrin) etc...

I have a sandwich for lunch every day though as I normally have 15 min lunches on my desk/car and I find that's the best option. 2 slices of homemade brown bread with ham or whatever I can find. Breakfast I have combo of corn flaskes, mini weetabix and the Alpen stuff with milk. To be honest I suspect all the beer is the culprit but we shall see smile

I'm not a big fruit person though ... wonder if that could be a problem? Most I have is an apple or orange per month haha.

Xerstead

724 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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bosshog said:
best is Weetabix or sachet of porridges or believe it or not things like cocoa pops/corn flakes - avoid muesli big time.
Another why? from me.
(Proper) musli is far more substantial than the other cerials (Weetabix/porridge are fine) so will help you feel full. It contains more complex carbohydrates which take longer to break down for a more gradual energy release, rather than a sugar spike/crash from the coco pops/frosties type cerials.
Feeling full and the gradual release of energy reduces the desire to start snacking on other things.
Good source of dietary fiber. If you ban all carbohydrates you will have no fiber in your diet.
If you get a good brand, there are plenty of fruit and/or nuts for better nutritional value.




Edited by Xerstead on Wednesday 15th August 00:18

bosshog

1,795 posts

305 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Xerstead said:
bosshog said:
best is Weetabix or sachet of porridges or believe it or not things like cocoa pops/corn flakes - avoid muesli big time.
Another why? from me.
(Proper) musli is far more substantial than the other cerials (Weetabix/porridge are fine) so will help you feel full. It contains more complex carbohydrates which take longer to break down for a more gradual energy release, rather than a sugar spike/crash from the coco pops/frosties type cerials.
Feeling full and the gradual release of energy reduces the desire to start snacking on other things.
Good source of dietary fiber. If you ban all carbohydrates you will have no fiber in your diet.
If you get a good brand, there are plenty of fruit and/or nuts for better nutritional value.


Edited by Xerstead on Wednesday 15th August 00:18
I don't disagree at all with you. I'm back on eating muesli now (as I love the stuff) - everything you say it true.
However the OP wants to loose weight. A "bowel" of cereal is not the same as a 'portion' you see on the side of the box/bag (its about 2/3 of a cup). Having a bowel of cereal - especially muesli - is a lot of calories and the OP wants to loose them.

The guy sat down and actually worked it out:

http://fulltimeworkersguidetoagoodphysique.blogspo...

Halb

53,012 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Only skim read the thing, but is it only referencing calories? Porridge is high in calories, but it's a complex carb with lots of fibre and will fill you up (no added extras one best). Stuff like cornflakes you need lots of to fill you up. Rice crispies are great, but do they fill you?
I cannot recall because haven't had them for long time. Also the more processed it is the more it has had it's fibre content reduced.

bosshog

1,795 posts

305 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Halb said:
Only skim read the thing, but is it only referencing calories? Porridge is high in calories, but it's a complex carb with lots of fibre and will fill you up (no added extras one best). Stuff like cornflakes you need lots of to fill you up. Rice crispies are great, but do they fill you?
I cannot recall because haven't had them for long time. Also the more processed it is the more it has had it's fibre content reduced.
yeah believe we all know that. My comments about cereal is not about 'filling you up', or how healthy vs unhealthy its about loosing weight. OP - Drink lots of water if you want to feel full up. Loosing weight really is as simple as more calories out than in. From my personal experience (though I did up the exercise) diet change made the biggest/quickest difference). Having a protein rich breakfast has a lot of less calories (generally if cooked right) than cereal or toast

my 2 pence etc

Edited by bosshog on Wednesday 15th August 07:34

LordGrover

34,150 posts

241 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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*cough* bowl.

MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Re; the calories thing.

I'll eat a bowl of porridge for breakfast, and when I get into work a massive amount of nuts or seeds. My maths isnt great, but I once worked this out as around six billion calories.

And I'm really thin.

Hoofy

79,988 posts

311 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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MocMocaMoc said:
I'll eat a bowl of porridge for breakfast, and when I get into work a massive amount of nuts or seeds. My maths isnt great, but I once worked this out as around six billion calories.
hehe They really are packed with calories, aren't they! A cupped handful is 150 calories and that can go in the blink of an eye. Out of interest, how many handfuls of nuts do you eat throughout the day?

Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 15th August 20:30

MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Hoofy said:
hehe They really are packed with calories, aren't they! A cupped handful is 150 calories and that can go in the blink of an eye. Out of interest, how many handfuls of nuts do you eat throughout the day?
Haha, yeah there's like a 1000 in the bag I'll buy - I try to make that last four days or so but often doesn't. Brazil's are my favourite.

I lost interest in counting calories a long time ago, and I get annoyed when I see the Weight Watchers brigade wolfing down 'fat free' cakes just because it'll be 'only a couple points'. Just don't eat the cake? There's a ton of natural, perfectly tasty stuff you can be eating!

Oh and, a handful of nuts </nohomo>

; )