Type 2 diabetes

[anonymous-user]

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[NDA]

I'm no expert.... However I am type 2.

I cut all 'added sugar' from my diet and moved to sweeteners in coffee. I eat no chocolates of any type. My blood sugar level moved from 9 to 4.7.

However, I was also prescribed something called 'Metformin' which helps too.

It's worth keeping an eye on your sugar levels and go for a review, particularly if you start feeling thirsty a lot.

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anonymous said:

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Staying off sugar will keep your levels lower.

As there is a history of diabetes in your family and you already have raised blood sugar levels, I'd keep off sugar permanently.

[JumboBeef]

anonymous said:

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6.7? Considering 'normal' is between 4 and 8mmol/l, your 6.7 is completely fine. The nurse doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

However, it is always good to cut down on sugar, but just about impossible (it is everywhere!)

Don't forget, you need glucose to live. Cut out too much and you'll suffer hypoglycaemia (blood sugars too low).

Do you have a family history of diabetes? If yes, and you are overweight and/or a smoker, then do something about it. Otherwise, don't worry yourself too much.

[Mermaid]

JumboBeef said:

6.7? Considering 'normal' is between 4 and 8mmol/l, your 6.7 is completely fine. The nurse doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

I thought good levels i.e. well controlled diabetes were up to 7. So close to the border line. Increase activity, that will help reduce weight.

[dave_s13]

Watch your refined carbs too as they are effectively just sugar also. Switch to wholemeal breads, brown rice, brown pasta.

I'm no dietician but that's how I understand it.

[sawman]

Do you drink coffee?

Caffeine inhibits the effect of insulin to a degree so can increase increase your blood sugar a bit if you are borderline to start with.

[Halb]

Processed food has sugar in it. Start looking at the ingredients o the stuff in tins, tubs, plastic wrapped whatevers. It's rare for them not to have added sugar. Sugar is cheap, makes things more addictive, makes things taste better.
Cook your own food and a lot of the added sugar will fall away.
Also don't drink any of those sugary drinks (which are just about 99% of the drinks on sale in the supermarket).

[JumboBeef]

anonymous said:

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You didn't say fasting in your first post, that makes quite a difference.

[dave_s13]

anonymous said:

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anonymous said:

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You didn't say fasting in your first post, that makes quite a difference.

Think you will find that most blood tests done in the GP surgery are fasting.

I dunno.....some don't.

[Mermaid]

JumboBeef said:

anonymous said:

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You didn't say fasting in your first post, that makes quite a difference.

& even & especially if it was HbA1C (3 months average), the nurse is right IMO.

[JumboBeef]

dave_s13 said:

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anonymous said:

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You didn't say fasting in your first post, that makes quite a difference.

Think you will find that most blood tests done in the GP surgery are fasting.

I dunno.....some don't.

I was posting from my experience with the ambulance service. You get a BM any time of the day or night.

[thepeoplespal]

You are getting towards type 2 if 6.7 is a fasting test. As well as avoiding the refined sugar, avoid anything with glucose fructose syrup, an ingredient (of the devil) that has drifted in from the USA, cause it is cheap. Doesn't always show up on the testing strips, but the US doesn't have the highest incidence of diabetes & highest consumption of high fructose corn syrup for nothing.

Looks like your family history is against you, but controlling it early is a very good idea. How is your blood pressure?Exercise will also make your body more sensitive to the insulin you do
make. Good luck on the prevention measures.

[fatboy b]

JumboBeef said:

Considering 'normal' is between 4 and 8mmol/l, your 6.7 is completely fine. The nurse doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

"normal" is 3.5 - 5 after fasting

6.7 is not excessive though. 10 is the point when the body cannot hold on to the sugar in the blood, at which point it comes out in urine. That leads to being thirsty a lot - one symptom of diabetes.

How much weight has the OP lost in 11 months? That's the crucial bit. Lower weight will probably be enough to bring it back into normal.

O/H is a dietitian, and in her opinion the OP shouldn't worry too much about 6.7

Edited by fatboy b on Monday 3rd September 20:26

[NDA]

thepeoplespal said:

You are getting towards type 2 if 6.7 is a fasting test. As well as avoiding the refined sugar, avoid anything with glucose fructose syrup, an ingredient (of the devil) that has drifted in from the USA, cause it is cheap. Doesn't always show up on the testing strips, but the US doesn't have the highest incidence of diabetes & highest consumption of high fructose corn syrup for nothing.

Looks like your family history is against you, but controlling it early is a very good idea. How is your blood pressure?Exercise will also make your body more sensitive to the insulin you do
make. Good luck on the prevention measures.

What typically might contain glucose fructose syrup? Thanks....

[fatboy b]

Wait until the new blood test then. But sounds like you're doing all the right things.

[Cheib]

dave_s13 said:

Watch your refined carbs too as they are effectively just sugar also. Switch to wholemeal breads, brown rice, brown pasta.

I'm no dietician but that's how I understand it.

Yup...but not even whole meal bread. Rye bread or soya and linseed bread is better. If you look at the food scores on the Glycemic Index it's a good pointer. http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/diet/gi_diet/...

Oat based cereals rather than wheat based

Boiled new potoes than baked potatoes.

All these things help with weight loss too as the low glycmic index foods take longer to be broken down so don't get hungry as quickly.

Also things like fruit juice and dried fruits are worse than fresh fruits.

I was told all that by a dietician recently.....it's worked for me.

[Mermaid]

fatboy b said:

Wait until the new blood test then. But sounds like you're doing all the right things.

Check fasting sugars daily and keep a record, also of food intake/type if at all possible. You will see quite exactly what works best for you.

[thepeoplespal]

NDA said:

What typically might contain glucose fructose syrup? Thanks....

Read ingredients lists very carefully,.even hp sauce now using it, for goodness sake.

[Captain Cadillac]

thepeoplespal said:

You are getting towards type 2 if 6.7 is a fasting test. As well as avoiding the refined sugar, avoid anything with glucose fructose syrup, an ingredient (of the devil) that has drifted in from the USA, cause it is cheap. Doesn't always show up on the testing strips, but the US doesn't have the highest incidence of diabetes & highest consumption of high fructose corn syrup for nothing.

Looks like your family history is against you, but controlling it early is a very good idea. How is your blood pressure?Exercise will also make your body more sensitive to the insulin you do
make. Good luck on the prevention measures.

THIS!!!!!!!

I avoid high fructose corn syrup completely, the stuff is the devil. As has been discussed before I am a very lucky guy who was diagnosed, by accident, with Pancreatic Adenocarcinoma and lived to tell.

HFCS directly feeds pancreatic cancer cells. It's RBS (Really Bad st)

Because I've lost the tail of my pancreas and thankfully nothing else save some lymph nodes I'm now a diabetic. And it runs in my family.

And ya know what, I found this out after I was in remission, and cutting this crap out of my diet has caused me to lose weight and feel much better.

Don't fk around with Diabetes, if you manage it you'll live an otherwise normal life. If you're not going to deal with it, smoke and be fat, you will die early, but you'll have fun things like losing your feet and blindness (you can wk all you want however) happen first.