Body shaped punch bag

[dfen5]

Thinking about getting one of the Everlast boxing punchman as I've got one of their reflex punch balls, which seems pretty good. Currently these are about £200 in Argos.

Having seen one called 'BOB' that's a lot dearer, what's the collective's opinion on a good shaped punch bag? Mainly for practising the ol' martial arts.

[Hyper10]

In my opinion a cheap tall relatively soft punchbag is better as it allows high and low attacks, the product I looked at was really an upper body model and I know I'd forget to use my legs and just punch high.
Maybe an experienced person may want for pinpoint work but I find training with a partner covers that aspect

[Hoofy]

They're great for practising hand and elbow strikes but anyone with a decent kick can either knock the damn things over or make them move about, which is annoying in itself as you then have to drag them back. Also, I don't know how much movement the base can take before the garage floor mine's on will wear out the underside.

[Liokault]

Hoofy said:

They're great for practising hand and elbow strikes but anyone with a decent kick can either knock the damn things over or make them move about, which is annoying in itself as you then have to drag them back. Also, I don't know how much movement the base can take before the garage floor mine's on will wear out the underside.

And if you rock them with a kick/punch, the band as they resettle down is huge. I shudder to think what that would do to your floorboards and walls.

Personally, I think they are ok, but will always be a second choice to a hanging bag.

[Lost_BMW]

I had a BOB XL for a couple of years. Filled it with water but it moved around a lot when hit or kicked, on tatami judo matting or the concrete garage floor, and leaked water.

Then spent a couple of back breaking afternoons on my knees scooping and funnelling sand in the base, 5 x 50lb bags, to absolute bursting point. Result... it still moved like a proverbial. It's a great idea to have a human shaped target to aim at (mind you, no arms blocking or coming back at you!) but gets pretty frustrating when you have to stop and reset after every couple of punches.

Basically it's ste.

[Hoofy]

Yep!

I've got the Slam Man. Interesting concept but a bit naff if used as the manufacturer intended.



I have covered the black plastic bits and the lights in 1 layer thick pieces of old yoga mat so that I can punch it without wearing gloves. It's quite useful for practising eye and neck strikes plus jabs and elbow strikes to identifiable parts of the body but for heavy, full power work, a punch bag is better.

[Regiment]

Liokault said:

And if you rock them with a kick/punch, the band as they resettle down is huge. I shudder to think what that would do to your floorboards and walls.

Personally, I think they are ok, but will always be a second choice to a hanging bag.

The big problem though is where and how to hang the bag. I've heard of heavyweight fighters using heavy bags and causing issues with supporting walls of there house as it was only hung from a single wall.

[Lost_BMW]

Regiment said:

Liokault said:

And if you rock them with a kick/punch, the band as they resettle down is huge. I shudder to think what that would do to your floorboards and walls.

Personally, I think they are ok, but will always be a second choice to a hanging bag.

The big problem though is where and how to hang the bag. I've heard of heavyweight fighters using heavy bags and causing issues with supporting walls of there house as it was only hung from a single wall.

One solution if it's possible is to do what my builder did for me in my last gym after hok after hook snapped or came out of the walls, even with long rawl bolts etc. - he drilled coach bolts through to the external wall or other side (like garage to kitchen) and through a metal plate mounted on the outside and then mounted the bag carrier on blocks of wood, with the bolts compressing against both. It cushioned the walls from the force, reduced noise and I never got any further damage.

[Hoofy]

What was your old punch bag frame like? (The black standalone one in your garage pic.)

[Lost_BMW]

Hoofy said:

What was your old punch bag frame like? (The black standalone one in your garage pic.)

Good, if big. Never snapped or broke, which is a start, and was the only one I've ever had/could find - Everlast (huh!), Body Solid and Weider (my fault, I know!) were weak rubbish - that was strong enough and would fit the lower height of this garage.

Was noisy mind.

The Cornerman from Protec is supposed to be good if you have long enough walls at right angles for the long frame legs to run along and take the strain.

If you have a garage with joists there are You Tube 'make your own' clips and a guy in the US who designs/makes screw out compression type bag hangers like this:

http://www.kofightgear.com/rafter_hanger.htm

[Hoofy]

Interesting stuff!

Hang on, what make was yours then?

[Regiment]

Lost_BMW said:

One solution if it's possible is to do what my builder did for me in my last gym after hok after hook snapped or came out of the walls, even with long rawl bolts etc. - he drilled coach bolts through to the external wall or other side (like garage to kitchen) and through a metal plate mounted on the outside and then mounted the bag carrier on blocks of wood, with the bolts compressing against both. It cushioned the walls from the force, reduced noise and I never got any further damage.

Sounds like a good idea, all the gyms I go to they'll have the bags hanging from metal frames that are secured into the floor.

[Lost_BMW]

Hoofy said:

Interesting stuff!

Hang on, what make was yours then?

It was this one -

http://www.geezersboxing.co.uk/brackets-fittings/s...

available from various suppliers and can also be bought with a suspended ball or speed bag platform

There's also ceiling hooks on the same page if the roof is up to it.

[Hoofy]

Lost_BMW said:

It was this one -

http://www.geezersboxing.co.uk/brackets-fittings/s...

available from various suppliers and can also be bought with a suspended ball or speed bag platform

There's also ceiling hooks on the same page if the roof is up to it.

Thanks. The ceiling isn't up to it!

[Liokault]

Ok, on a similar thread......recommend me a punchbag.

[Lost_BMW]

Liokault said:

Ok, on a similar thread......recommend me a punchbag.

How large, heavy and expensive?

Do you have any hand, knuckle issues?

If you can afford it I'd go for one like my Ringside bag - heavy enough not to swing too wildly like some do and with a 2" inner foam wrap to protect the hands

http://www.ringsideboxing.co.uk/shop/punch-bags/ju...

or a gel bag

ttp://www.serious-fitness.co.uk/index.php?module_instance_id=10948&core_alternate_page=view_product&option=fetch_product&product_id=7432


or maybe a wrecking ball type or angle bag which are good for uppercuts and screw shots, like these:

http://www.geezersboxing.co.uk/punchbags-accessori...

(I have this, a good bag for the money)


http://www.ampro.co.uk/shop/pro-box-original-head-...

Loads of stuff on their site and I've had some good stuff from Ampro at a lot less than the main rivals.

[Halb]

I always wanted that colossus 70kg bag.

I've knocked two heavy bags off gym walls.

[BenM77]

Halb said:

I've knocked two heavy bags off gym walls.

IRON MAN !!

Were any pretty girls watching and did they feel your biceps afterwards

[Liokault]

BenM77 said:

Halb said:

I've knocked two heavy bags off gym walls.

IRON MAN !!

Were any pretty girls watching and did they feel your biceps afterwards

Just another day at Kobra Kai dude!

[Celt]

Halb said:

I always wanted that colossus 70kg bag.

I've knocked two heavy bags off gym walls.

Only knocked one off myself. Felt like rocky! But I was very aware that it was a ste hook that snapped that caused it. I train at two or three mma/ thai gyms. All with very different ways of hanging there bags. One is off joists in the ceiling, works pretty well. Needs to be quite heavy bags to stop them swinging though. Another with a massive purpose frame built, similar to swings in parks, just a bit stronger. And another with wall mounts, but these were mounted by the builders that made supports behind the plaster board. The plasterboard now has some rather nice punch bag sized holes in it.

I wouldn't recommend the body shaped bags. Stick with heavy bags if at all possible.