Raw milk

[Halb]

Anyone here drink it?
For those that do, do you buy it from local farmer, farmer's market etc?

[balders118]

I have a friend who drinks death milk. He buys in bulk from the market. I wouldn't touch it unless I knew the farmer/cow personally, simply because there are too many unknowns and the benefits just don't out weight them.

[LordGrover]

Not something I've tried but google turned up: click.

[didelydoo]

I'd second Balders said- from what I've read, the risks outweigh the benefits. Not worth it.

I'm also not 100% on the difference that pasteurisation makes to it's dietary worth. It does kill enzymes/Bacteria in it, but are these same enzymes not already present in the stomach anyway- if so, what does it matter?? Someone may be able to confirm for me?

[300bhp/ton]

Slightly different, but I wish it was easier to find and buy non homogenized milk these days.

[jogon]

I drink it when I can get it. They used to sell it in Selfridges food hall from a vending machine, so I bought a pint most mornings when I worked at Portman Sq but suddenly got pulled from sale.

Same company now sell it at Borough Market on fri/sat mornings so only have it every so often of late. But they do also offer a delivery service..

http://www.hookandson.co.uk/RawMilk/index.html

Taste great on coco pops

[jogon]

300bhp/ton said:

Slightly different, but I wish it was easier to find and buy non homogenized milk these days.

They sell full fat non homogenised in waitrose but often sold out.

[Esseesse]

I have been drinking raw milk for 3 or 4 months. Get it from a farm just outside of town (Bedfordshire). If you understand the whys of pasteurisation, and you know where your milk is coming from then IMO there is as good as no risk.

[LordGrover]

300bhp/ton said:

Slightly different, but I wish it was easier to find and buy non homogenized milk these days.

Supermarkets usually sell it, Sainsbury's certainly does.

ETA: click.

[300bhp/ton]

LordGrover said:

300bhp/ton said:

Slightly different, but I wish it was easier to find and buy non homogenized milk these days.

Supermarkets usually sell it, Sainsbury's certainly does.

ETA: click.

Thanks, although it doesn't have to be gold top. You can have unhomgenized blue and green top, which as far as I know only Dutchy sell in Waitrose. None of the supermarket brands or Cravendale are unhomogenized.

But thanks for the heads up, as Tesco gold top is homogenized.

[Esseesse]

didelydoo said:

I'm also not 100% on the difference that pasteurisation makes to it's dietary worth. It does kill enzymes/Bacteria in it, but are these same enzymes not already present in the stomach anyway- if so, what does it matter?? Someone may be able to confirm for me?

I'm going from memory here but...

In milk there are bad bacteria and good bacteria. The pasteurised milk you buy has to be pasteurised because there are significant amounts of bad bacteria in it. After pasteurisation all bacteria in it are dead, there are significant amounts of dead bacteria. Common sense says that dead bacteria would have no affect on you, however whilst it will not kill you I don't believe that it is completely inert - i.e. your body may react in some way (probably not noticeably).

If you can find unpasteurised milk from a good place (most I would expect, else they wouldn't last long), it will have good bacteria and significantly less bad bacteria (i.e. low levels) in the first place.

The reason there is less bad bacteria in the first place is because their cows should be fed on grass (hay in the winter). This is what cows are designed to eat. Cow 'pats' are not meant to be sloppy, but are so often so because most cows are fed on grain (because it's cheap). These cows themselves have bad gut bacteria/IBS.

I'm not certain if their milk has more bad bacteria because the cows are less healthy (their life expectancy is far less than a well looked after cow), or if the udders themselves are quite in the firing line of their bad poos, meaning inevitably there will be some/trace bacteria. It could be a bit of both, I suspect it's more likely to be for the latter reason.