Any opinions on whether or not protein shakes help??
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I recently arrived at a site to work, and whilst travelling my protein tub was taken from me to be checked by the site medic. Standard practice. When he seen it, he pretty much told me that it didn't work or help in the slightest if you have a well balanced diet.
I have had a browse and can find arguements for and against. I'm not sure if I had convinced myself in the past, but I felt that it worked/helped me gain a little muscle, and helped me recover. Phsycological? Maybe. Any opinions?
I have had a browse and can find arguements for and against. I'm not sure if I had convinced myself in the past, but I felt that it worked/helped me gain a little muscle, and helped me recover. Phsycological? Maybe. Any opinions?
rash_decision said:
I recently arrived at a site to work, and whilst travelling my protein tub was taken from me to be checked by the site medic. Standard practice. When he seen it, he pretty much told me that it didn't work or help in the slightest if you have a well balanced diet.
I have had a browse and can find arguements for and against. I'm not sure if I had convinced myself in the past, but I felt that it worked/helped me gain a little muscle, and helped me recover. Phsycological? Maybe. Any opinions?
I'd say it depends on 2 things:I have had a browse and can find arguements for and against. I'm not sure if I had convinced myself in the past, but I felt that it worked/helped me gain a little muscle, and helped me recover. Phsycological? Maybe. Any opinions?
1) How hard you work out
2) how much protein from food you get
Firstly you don't need protein shakes if you don't work out, secondly protein shakes are there for ease really. They help you pack in that extra protein of you can't get it from food. Eg. Say you need 250g of protein. Thats roughly 750g of chicken, then you need your carbs and fats on top!
Simply put, if you work out and can't eat enough food then yes they can work (I don't say do because I guarantee someone will disagree)
like others have said, its a supplement to your other food sources.
It helps you get more protein in your diet aswell as amino acids and other stuff to help build muscle, IF you work out.
if you dont work out then there is no point, but if you do and lack the stuff in the shake in your diet, or need more that what you can eat, then yes it will work
It helps you get more protein in your diet aswell as amino acids and other stuff to help build muscle, IF you work out.
if you dont work out then there is no point, but if you do and lack the stuff in the shake in your diet, or need more that what you can eat, then yes it will work
rash_decision said:
I recently arrived at a site to work, and whilst travelling my protein tub was taken from me to be checked by the site medic. Standard practice. When he seen it, he pretty much told me that it didn't work or help in the slightest if you have a well balanced diet.
Any opinions?
The medic is correct.Any opinions?
A fool and his money are soon parted..
goldblum said:
The medic is correct.
A fool and his money are soon parted..
Rubbish. A fool and his money are soon parted..
Protein shakes are a supplement used to supplement a well balanced diet to increase protein intake without having to worry about increasing carb or fat intake I.e. for high protein diets and to do it relatively easily and cheaply.
The medic is talking from personal experience, doubtful that they were a qualified dietician so the comment made by the medic should be shrugged off purely as an offhand comment.
Edited by Regiment on Sunday 17th February 16:13
goldblum said:
Bit strong.
Why? What does a protein supplement give you that a well balanced meal doesn't? Enlighten me..
Protein shakes are a supplement used to supplement a well balanced diet to increase protein intake without having to worry about increasing carb or fat intake I.e. for high protein diets and to do it relatively easily and cheaply.Why? What does a protein supplement give you that a well balanced meal doesn't? Enlighten me..
I don't object to them, but when fatty at work tells me he's starting his weight loss plan and the first step is downing gallons of protein shakes, then I develop an irrational loathing of them.
Which encourages me to go all militant with the whole 'if you're eating right you wouldn't need the supplements' mantra thing.
Which encourages me to go all militant with the whole 'if you're eating right you wouldn't need the supplements' mantra thing.
Edited by MocMocaMoc on Sunday 17th February 16:43
Regiment said:
goldblum said:
Bit strong.
Why? What does a protein supplement give you that a well balanced meal doesn't? Enlighten me..
Protein shakes are a supplement used to supplement a well balanced diet to increase protein intake without having to worry about increasing carb or fat intake I.e. for high protein diets and to do it relatively easily and cheaply.Why? What does a protein supplement give you that a well balanced meal doesn't? Enlighten me..
Surely if you want more protein but nothing else you simply add more protein to your diet but not fat and carbs..and it stays balanced?
I must be missing something here..
MocMocaMoc said:
I don't object to them, but when fatty at work tells me he's starting his weight loss plan and the first step is downing gallons of protein shakes, then I develop an irrational loathing of them.
Are you saying that wearing daft trousers and applying orange tanning lotion will not make me bulk up after all?
goldblum said:
If your diet is subjectively well balanced why would you want to increase your protein intake? In case it's not properly well balanced?
Surely if you want more protein but nothing else you simply add more protein to your diet but not fat and carbs..and it stays balanced?
I must be missing something here..
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa4.htmSurely if you want more protein but nothing else you simply add more protein to your diet but not fat and carbs..and it stays balanced?
I must be missing something here..
---quote from above article---
The Bottom Line
The biggest advantage of protein supplements is not that they can build more muscle than chicken or egg whites or any other whole food protein, the biggest advantage is convenience. It is easier to drink a protein shake than it is to buy, prepare, and cook whole foods. Consuming small frequent meals is the optimal way to eat, regardless if your goal is muscle gain or fat loss. To keep your body constantly in positive nitrogen balance, you should consume a complete protein every three hours. For many people, eating this often is nearly impossible. That is when a high quality protein supplement is the most helpful.
Aside from the convenience, the truth about protein supplements is that they offer few advantages over protein foods. There is no scientific evidence that you cannot meet all of your protein needs for muscle growth through food. As long as you eat every three hours and you eat a complete protein such as eggs, lean meat or dairy products with every meal, it is not necessary to consume any protein supplements to get outstanding results. Whey protein does have some interesting and useful properties and supplementing with a couple of scoops a day is not a bad idea, especially if you are on a low calorie diet for fat loss. Aside from that, focus on real food and do not believe all the hype you read. Good luck on your training for the New Year.
---end of quote---
Convenience and to help boost your protein intake without increasing carb and fat intake, I.e. you eat a well balanced diet and then boost your protein intake with supplements when needed. The average person shouldn't be supplementing with protein but someone who works out a lot and wants to gain muscle, protein shakes offer the most convenient way of doing this.
And then you touch upon the whole "do I have to eat 6 meals a day?" thing... which leads me to ask, "How long does digestion take?" I mean, you digest food from the moment it passes your lips until it lands in your rectum, a whole 20ft long, taking several hours to pass.
Edit: 33 hours, apparently!
Edit: 33 hours, apparently!
Edited by Hoofy on Sunday 17th February 17:00
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