High calorie low volume foods/drinks - I want to poo less.
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Does anyone here have experience of giving up solid food and replacing it with some sort of meal replacement shake or bar?
My guts are a mess (most of it is paralysed because of a spinal injury) thus defecating is now an unpleasant part of life for me. If I eat a normal diet I have to s
t once or twice a day and I'd like to reduce this to once or twice a week.
Is there anything on the market which would give someone their circa 2k calories a day however do so in a way which means you're consuming very little volume? An oxo sized cube which gives you lots of calories perhaps? I would obviously supplement this with a multi vitamin.
Any thoughts on this matter?
My guts are a mess (most of it is paralysed because of a spinal injury) thus defecating is now an unpleasant part of life for me. If I eat a normal diet I have to s
t once or twice a day and I'd like to reduce this to once or twice a week.Is there anything on the market which would give someone their circa 2k calories a day however do so in a way which means you're consuming very little volume? An oxo sized cube which gives you lots of calories perhaps? I would obviously supplement this with a multi vitamin.
Any thoughts on this matter?
Victor McDade said:
Does anyone here have experience of giving up solid food and replacing it with some sort of meal replacement shake or bar?
My guts are a mess (most of it is paralysed because of a spinal injury) thus defecating is now an unpleasant part of life for me. If I eat a normal diet I have to st once or twice a day and I'd like to reduce this to once or twice a week.
Is there anything on the market which would give someone their circa 2k calories a day however do so in a way which means you're consuming very little volume? An oxo sized cube which gives you lots of calories perhaps? I would obviously supplement this with a multi vitamin.
Any thoughts on this matter?
I normally sMy guts are a mess (most of it is paralysed because of a spinal injury) thus defecating is now an unpleasant part of life for me. If I eat a normal diet I have to s
t once or twice a day and I'd like to reduce this to once or twice a week.Is there anything on the market which would give someone their circa 2k calories a day however do so in a way which means you're consuming very little volume? An oxo sized cube which gives you lots of calories perhaps? I would obviously supplement this with a multi vitamin.
Any thoughts on this matter?
t twice a day and I eat a lot 
I'd be more concerned once or twice a week than twice a day!
As for high calorie shakes blend some nuts up
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is it just cos you're eating less crap so most of what you eat is burnt for energy?davepoth said:
I'd check it out with your doctor first. Reduced gut motility is a problem at the best of times and I'd be wary of trying to slow it down further.
This. My guts are pretty crap at the best of times these days but really - speak to someone who understands digestive health, whether that be a GP or an alternative practitioner of some sort (nutritionist, colonic therapist, etc). Don't take advice on what's ok for your gut long term on here or any other forum.I cannot remember the name for it, but i was looking into the different types of diet for crohns, and came across a type of drink stuff thats supposed to replace a large meal C.1000 calories, its used by people in the space station and it leaves hardly any if anything left for you to poo out ass 100% gets absorbed into you.
thought about getting some to see what it was like, but i do enjoy a good poo, so it got pushed to the back of my mind and forgot about till now.
Ill try and find it for you.
thought about getting some to see what it was like, but i do enjoy a good poo, so it got pushed to the back of my mind and forgot about till now.
Ill try and find it for you.
Victor McDade said:
Does anyone here have experience of giving up solid food and replacing it with some sort of meal replacement shake or bar?
My guts are a mess (most of it is paralysed because of a spinal injury) thus defecating is now an unpleasant part of life for me. If I eat a normal diet I have to st once or twice a day and I'd like to reduce this to once or twice a week.
Is there anything on the market which would give someone their circa 2k calories a day however do so in a way which means you're consuming very little volume? An oxo sized cube which gives you lots of calories perhaps? I would obviously supplement this with a multi vitamin.
Any thoughts on this matter?
which RSIC are you under ? what does your consultant / the liasion nurses say ? if you aren;t under an RSIC for follow -up care what the juddering feck is going on? ( that said there are Neurosurgeons and Orthopods who don't refer to RSICs if the patient can stand 'because they don;t need rehab')... if you were under an RSIC and have dropped out of the system due to moving etc get yourself re-referred - also for stuff like when did you last have renal USS etc ... My guts are a mess (most of it is paralysed because of a spinal injury) thus defecating is now an unpleasant part of life for me. If I eat a normal diet I have to s
t once or twice a day and I'd like to reduce this to once or twice a week.Is there anything on the market which would give someone their circa 2k calories a day however do so in a way which means you're consuming very little volume? An oxo sized cube which gives you lots of calories perhaps? I would obviously supplement this with a multi vitamin.
Any thoughts on this matter?
what's your current bowel regime ? - some experimentation with different aperients and also different options wrt microenema/ supps / PR bisacodyl
peristeen may also be an option
What level is your injury ( given the risk of Autonomic dysreflexia with injuries at T8 or above )?
attempting to reduce the volume of stool can be counter productive especially if it means it's going to be hard and 'dry' ( bristol 1 or 2) rather than bristol 3 -4 stool which passes easily ...
Edited by mph1977 on Sunday 2nd June 10:34
mph1977 - I'm under the care of the glasgow unit. They are very good and I see them regularly. The specialists are all of the same opinion - 'better out than in' thus recommend experimenting with different types and different quantities of purgatives.
Things work well for me 19 days out of 20 but occasionally, as is the nature of my injury, inconvenient things happen. Which has been fine so far given I've either been in hospital or at home since incurring my injury but I plan to get back into some sort of work soon and a 95% strike rate isnt really good enough lol.
My injury level is L2 so no risk of AD thankfully.
To everyone else, thanks for the replies - after a bit of research I figured out that what I'm looking for is called 'low residue meal replacement powder' - there appears to be some on the market which will give you circa 700kcal when mixed with 300ml of water.
But yes, I'm going to seek medical advice again before I start experimenting.
Things work well for me 19 days out of 20 but occasionally, as is the nature of my injury, inconvenient things happen. Which has been fine so far given I've either been in hospital or at home since incurring my injury but I plan to get back into some sort of work soon and a 95% strike rate isnt really good enough lol.
My injury level is L2 so no risk of AD thankfully.
To everyone else, thanks for the replies - after a bit of research I figured out that what I'm looking for is called 'low residue meal replacement powder' - there appears to be some on the market which will give you circa 700kcal when mixed with 300ml of water.
But yes, I'm going to seek medical advice again before I start experimenting.
victor - how long are you post injury ? as 95 % at discharge or not long after discharge is pretty good. bowel regimes are individual and take practice ... I know people who have been injured for many years who still have 'accidents' ...
peristeen may be an option if you have difficulty getting 'empty' ... unfortunately though if the stool isn;t in the rectum or near at the time you go to the toilet then neither peristeen or the PR preparations / manual stimulation will bring it away
peristeen may be an option if you have difficulty getting 'empty' ... unfortunately though if the stool isn;t in the rectum or near at the time you go to the toilet then neither peristeen or the PR preparations / manual stimulation will bring it away
Edited by mph1977 on Sunday 2nd June 19:40
mph, I'm 12 months post injury and 6 post discharge from the unit. Have heard good things about peristeen, will try and speak to my GP about it - thanks for reminding me.
BVD, that's true and nearly everyone I've spoken to about it all say that they wish they'd had it done earlier. For me though I think I'd give it another year or so before I went down that route.
BVD, that's true and nearly everyone I've spoken to about it all say that they wish they'd had it done earlier. For me though I think I'd give it another year or so before I went down that route.
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