Pre-workout suppliments
Pre-workout suppliments
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Slink

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2,947 posts

201 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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S I have heard of pre-workout suppliments that you take, obviously, before a workout.

I dont really have any clue which ones to get, as some are in pill form, some in a bucket of powder, and some come pre-mixed in bottles.

i heard about Jack3D a while ago as it was on the news as the main ingredient was banned as people were abusing it buy taking far to much than recommended and dying from heart failure.

would have liked to get some of that before it was banned, but didnt, so now Im left with the weaker and not as good stuff.



what do you use as a pre-workout mix and what works the best, and if you don't, why not.

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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DS Craze has good reviews but I didn't find it that great tbh.

It's the only one after jack3d that I tried and it was nowhere near as effective.

I'd be interested to know if anyone can recommend one too that isn't too expensive?

smiffy180

6,029 posts

179 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Caffeine tabs. Cheap and that's normally the base of all pre workout supps

gjf764

1,338 posts

204 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Sugar free red bull for me. Lots of people swear by black coffe but I can't stand the stuff

SmoothCriminal

5,938 posts

228 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Craze only thing that really works.


goldblum

10,272 posts

196 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Caffeine is actually counter-productive if taken before a bodybuilding workout. It inhibits vasodilation, or a 'pump'. Better off throwing cold water on your face (nothing extra in the water).

n_const

1,814 posts

230 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Thumbs up for craze from me.

Goldblum never heard that before ?! My "pumps" seem just fine when taking craze.

43034

2,971 posts

197 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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SmoothCriminal said:
Craze only thing that really works.
Disagree. Was complete st for me.

1 More Rep (1MR) or Novem worked for me.

goldblum

10,272 posts

196 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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n_const said:
Thumbs up for craze from me.

Goldblum never heard that before ?! My "pumps" seem just fine when taking craze.
Yeah you'll still get a good pump. Just not as good - it's measurable. The other thing is you may well have built up a tolerance to caffeine - I assume there's some in Craze? - IIRC caffeine tolerance builds quickly, sometimes after only three doses.


Slink

Original Poster:

2,947 posts

201 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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I dont think the caffeine in these suppliments will do me sod all, as i drink some type of energy drink when I wake up most days and a couple of coffee during the day some times.


but it still might do something but not much, im more interested in the rest of the ingredients as i could quite easy drink a red bull before a work out.

kingstondc5

8,017 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Ive tried
Grenade .50 Cal, youd get tingling sensations in your hands/face, seemed to help me in strength training/get over a plateau but id end up being awake till 3am (even though i took it at 5pm previous day), then when id wake up at 630am, i wouldnt feel sleepy

Trying TPW's Raze - first lot i took seemed to work, the second batch im taking doesnt seem to do anything so i may need to up the dose as such. However, only once have i had the tingling effect in my hands and im able to go to sleep at a normal time (11pm)

theshrew

6,008 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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I had a fair few free samples of Grenade.

Tastes like st and when it wore off had a huge crash in energy. Defo wont be buying anything. These days just have a good old strong Coffee seems to have more or less the same effects.

n_const

1,814 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Is it true that carbohydrates can minimize effects of caffeine by upto 90% ? Some "personal trainer" put it on facebook the other day.

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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kingstondc5 said:
Ive tried
Grenade .50 Cal, youd get tingling sensations in your hands/face, seemed to help me in strength training/get over a plateau but id end up being awake till 3am (even though i took it at 5pm previous day), then when id wake up at 630am, i wouldnt feel sleepy

Trying TPW's Raze - first lot i took seemed to work, the second batch im taking doesnt seem to do anything so i may need to up the dose as such. However, only once have i had the tingling effect in my hands and im able to go to sleep at a normal time (11pm)
The tingling effect will be Beta Alanine. I take that with creatine before most w/o's. The tingling disappears after a while though. Beta Alanine increases or helps to increase the production of carnosine in your muscle tissue which will help to give you better muscle endurance = more work done.

It’s meant to be a worthwhile supplement and it’s cheap enough to buy in bulk (along with creatine). Although I think you have carnosine in your brain, I’m not sure that it will help with any mental endurance/improvement but I could be wrong.

Jonnny

29,896 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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smiffy180 said:
Caffeine tabs. Cheap and that's normally the base of all pre workout supps
I take a Caffeine tablet before going to the gym, starts working as I'm starting my work out. Can definitely, 100% feel the difference. Struggled to do 16 miles cycling without it, with it I managed 20 miles. Also took an Electrolyte Tablet before working out, seemed to help. Maybe it's all in your head but seems to work..

goldblum

10,272 posts

196 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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Jonnny said:
smiffy180 said:
Caffeine tabs. Cheap and that's normally the base of all pre workout supps
I take a Caffeine tablet before going to the gym, starts working as I'm starting my work out. Can definitely, 100% feel the difference. Struggled to do 16 miles cycling without it, with it I managed 20 miles. Also took an Electrolyte Tablet before working out, seemed to help. Maybe it's all in your head but seems to work..
Caffiene suppresses muscle glycogen depletion in aerobic endurance events. So you'll have more energy on a long run/bike ride.

goldblum

10,272 posts

196 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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n_const said:
Is it true that carbohydrates can minimize effects of caffeine by upto 90% ? Some "personal trainer" put it on facebook the other day.
Could it be the other way round, in that as mentioned in my post above caffeine suppresses glcogen (carb) usage? This is only in aerobic exercise though, not weights. It also helps weightloss by increasing blood lipid catabolisation. It's unlikely you'd notice a measurable difference in bodyweight, lol.


n_const

1,814 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th June 2013
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goldblum said:
Could it be the other way round, in that as mentioned in my post above caffeine suppresses glcogen (carb) usage? This is only in aerobic exercise though, not weights. It also helps weightloss by increasing blood lipid catabolisation. It's unlikely you'd notice a measurable difference in bodyweight, lol.
Possibly, just something i read from a personal trainer lol ive never noticed a lack of effects from caffeine and i take carbs pre workout.

rosscobmw

350 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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I just cant find anything that works for me now that my jack3d ran out

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Wednesday 19th June 2013
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