Meal replacement shakes?
Discussion
I’m going on holiday at the end of September and want to drop a stone. I know to do this I need to increase my calorie deficit. I’ve used the My Protein Whey protein shakes in the past as a supplement with some powdered oats and like them. To kick start things I’m thinking of having a shake as a meal replacement for breakfast and lunch, then either a shake for dinner or normal meal which I can accurately count the cals.
My protein offer a MRP powder
http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/total-mr...
Has anyone tried these as a MRP? I’m guessing the difference over the normal whey protein I’ve used in the past is the nutritional values?
My protein offer a MRP powder
http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/total-mr...
Has anyone tried these as a MRP? I’m guessing the difference over the normal whey protein I’ve used in the past is the nutritional values?
Hoofy said:
1) Why not just enjoy normal food in lower quantities?
2) What do you mean by "kick start"? It's not like it suddenly drops if you take a miracle shake.
I find unless it’s processed its difficult/time consuming to cal count. I can be lazy to so making a couple of shakes for breakfast and lunch for work is easy. By kick start I guess I mean it will get me focused. I may also consider a bit of alternate day fasting. 2) What do you mean by "kick start"? It's not like it suddenly drops if you take a miracle shake.
a311 said:
Hoofy said:
1) Why not just enjoy normal food in lower quantities?
2) What do you mean by "kick start"? It's not like it suddenly drops if you take a miracle shake.
I find unless it’s processed its difficult/time consuming to cal count. I can be lazy to so making a couple of shakes for breakfast and lunch for work is easy. By kick start I guess I mean it will get me focused. I may also consider a bit of alternate day fasting. 2) What do you mean by "kick start"? It's not like it suddenly drops if you take a miracle shake.
I'd be careful of undereating. Your body does funny things when you eat too little. For instance, your periods may stop.
You could do 5:2 and eat normally (as in whatever you eat now, NOT under 1500 on non-fasting days in case you don't understand what "eat normally" means
). Supposedly, 5:2 is healthy for you and as a side effect you lose weight.Hoofy said:
I guess it is easier to count cals if you're eating a chemistry set.
I'd be careful of undereating. Your body does funny things when you eat too little. For instance, your periods may stop.
You could do 5:2 and eat normally (as in whatever you eat now, NOT under 1500 on non-fasting days in case you don't understand what "eat normally" means ). Supposedly, 5:2 is healthy for you and as a side effect you lose weight.
Understood, I realise what I plan is not sustainable long term. If I could be bothered I’d dig out my previous posts where about 2 years ago I lost 3.5 stone which proved to be in a sustainable manner. Now, in the next month to six weeks I want to loose a stone and quickly so I can pile it back on holiday, binge dieting and eating at it’s finest!I'd be careful of undereating. Your body does funny things when you eat too little. For instance, your periods may stop.
You could do 5:2 and eat normally (as in whatever you eat now, NOT under 1500 on non-fasting days in case you don't understand what "eat normally" means
). Supposedly, 5:2 is healthy for you and as a side effect you lose weight.a311 said:
Understood, I realise what I plan is not sustainable long term. If I could be bothered I’d dig out my previous posts where about 2 years ago I lost 3.5 stone which proved to be in a sustainable manner. Now, in the next month to six weeks I want to loose a stone and quickly so I can pile it back on holiday, binge dieting and eating at it’s finest!
In that case, sign up for http://www.6weeksixpack.com/ and eat as little as you can*. Take before and after photos. Would be interested to see how you get on.
*- it's probably a terrible idea.
Forget shakes. How long will you keep that up for? It's about lifestyle change. Eat healthy and exercise at least three times a week, a mix of cardio and weights ideally.
Avoid sugar including fizzy drinks + fruit juices (loaded with sugar).
AVOID refined carbs such as white bread, pasta, potatoes, rice - V important.
Eat lean meats - turkey breast, chicken breast, fish, the odd lean steak here and there + Load up on green veg.
Don't fry food. Instead grill, steam or bake.
Don't eat dinner late at night + avoid alcohol if you can (full of calories)
Plenty of water + a good nights sleep each night.
Do this and the weight will drop off. Guaranteed. You will also feel energised and positive.
http://www.circuitfactory.ae/downloads.php
Get them to email you the book on diet. It's got some good tips.
Good luck.
Get them to email you the book on diet. It's got some good tips.
Good luck.
6th Gear said:
Forget shakes. How long will you keep that up for? It's about lifestyle change. Eat healthy and exercise at least three times a week, a mix of cardio and weights ideally.
Avoid sugar including fizzy drinks + fruit juices (loaded with sugar).
AVOID refined carbs such as white bread, pasta, potatoes, rice - V important.
Eat lean meats - turkey breast, chicken breast, fish, the odd lean steak here and there + Load up on green veg.
Don't fry food. Instead grill, steam or bake.
Don't eat dinner late at night + avoid alcohol if you can (full of calories)
Plenty of water + a good nights sleep each night.
Do this and the weight will drop off. Guaranteed. You will also feel energised and positive.
Oh no, where to start!Avoid sugar including fizzy drinks + fruit juices (loaded with sugar).
AVOID refined carbs such as white bread, pasta, potatoes, rice - V important.
Eat lean meats - turkey breast, chicken breast, fish, the odd lean steak here and there + Load up on green veg.
Don't fry food. Instead grill, steam or bake.
Don't eat dinner late at night + avoid alcohol if you can (full of calories)
Plenty of water + a good nights sleep each night.
Do this and the weight will drop off. Guaranteed. You will also feel energised and positive.
Potatoes and rice are NOT refined carbs, they're complex carbs & contain fibre. They are high GI, but eaten with veg and other low GI foods will actually reduce how quickly the carbs are converted into glucose.
Nothing wrong with frying food if using the right sort of oil/spray. They do a 1 cal spray which is very good. Also, shallow frying isn't an issue if the oil doesn't go 'rancid' - just as long like everything, you include the calories of the oil.
Eating late at night is not an issue - why would it be? It's total calorific intake - you could take it all in 1 sitting at midnight if you wanted to. It doesn't affect weight loss or overall body composition.
mu0n said:
Oh no, where to start!
Potatoes and rice are NOT refined carbs, they're complex carbs & contain fibre. They are high GI, but eaten with veg and other low GI foods will actually reduce how quickly the carbs are converted into glucose.
Nothing wrong with frying food if using the right sort of oil/spray. They do a 1 cal spray which is very good. Also, shallow frying isn't an issue if the oil doesn't go 'rancid' - just as long like everything, you include the calories of the oil.
Eating late at night is not an issue - why would it be? It's total calorific intake - you could take it all in 1 sitting at midnight if you wanted to. It doesn't affect weight loss or overall body composition.
Interesting, thanks for your input. Potatoes and rice are NOT refined carbs, they're complex carbs & contain fibre. They are high GI, but eaten with veg and other low GI foods will actually reduce how quickly the carbs are converted into glucose.
Nothing wrong with frying food if using the right sort of oil/spray. They do a 1 cal spray which is very good. Also, shallow frying isn't an issue if the oil doesn't go 'rancid' - just as long like everything, you include the calories of the oil.
Eating late at night is not an issue - why would it be? It's total calorific intake - you could take it all in 1 sitting at midnight if you wanted to. It doesn't affect weight loss or overall body composition.
I was always advised to eat no later than 8pm. Reason being the rate at which your metabolism functions during sleeping versus your waking hours. When you eat during the day, you are relatively active, and your metabolism is functioning quicker. During sleep, your metabolism has slowed quite a bit.
Anyway, the plan I suggested above worked for me. I've gone from 93KG to 79KG in just over one year. I'm 5'11''
Edited by 6th Gear on Thursday 15th August 14:10
6th Gear said:
Interesting, thanks for your input.
I was always advised to eat no later than 8pm. Reason being the rate at which your metabolism functions during sleeping versus your waking hours. When you eat during the day, you are relatively active, and your metabolism is functioning quicker. During sleep, your metabolism has slowed quite a bit.
Anyway, the plan I suggested above worked for me. I've gone from 93KG to 79KG in just over one year. I'm 5'11''
Timing of eating is not important - like people who think you need a protein shake within half an hour of training - lies. Studies have shown that the so called 'window' for maximum protein-synthesis is anything up to 48 hours.I was always advised to eat no later than 8pm. Reason being the rate at which your metabolism functions during sleeping versus your waking hours. When you eat during the day, you are relatively active, and your metabolism is functioning quicker. During sleep, your metabolism has slowed quite a bit.
Anyway, the plan I suggested above worked for me. I've gone from 93KG to 79KG in just over one year. I'm 5'11''
Edited by 6th Gear on Thursday 15th August 14:10
But yeah of course you will lose weight even doing that - it's just not necessary - you'd have still lost the same amount if you ate all your food after 8pm.
Quick update, did a trial week with this last week. Shake for breakfast, lunch then a sensible calorie counted meal. I was off for the long weekend so had some solid lunches again all counted on MFP. I went for My Proteins total meal replacement in vanilla guise. An 80g serving is something like 270 cals, 300ml of skimmed milk about 100. They don’t taste too bad with just water, and for my breakfast one I blend in some coffee too.
Going, well I’m not feeling hungry after having them. I’d upped my exercise pre looking at my diet and last week increased this further, ran about 22 miles in total, when the weather is fine go for a ~2 mile walk at work and the dog gets walked every day to the tune of 3.5 miles so I reckon I also walked around 30 miles.
Result was I lost 8lbs in a week. It’s given me the kick start I needed to really scrutinise what I was eating and what I was earning back in calories burned. I wouldn’t suggest it’s sustainable long term and the shakes are pretty much the equivalent to a sensible breakfast and lunch but are easy to pre make and monitor cal intake. I also bought some electronic kitchen scales so I can monitor everything I’m eating closely.
Going, well I’m not feeling hungry after having them. I’d upped my exercise pre looking at my diet and last week increased this further, ran about 22 miles in total, when the weather is fine go for a ~2 mile walk at work and the dog gets walked every day to the tune of 3.5 miles so I reckon I also walked around 30 miles.
Result was I lost 8lbs in a week. It’s given me the kick start I needed to really scrutinise what I was eating and what I was earning back in calories burned. I wouldn’t suggest it’s sustainable long term and the shakes are pretty much the equivalent to a sensible breakfast and lunch but are easy to pre make and monitor cal intake. I also bought some electronic kitchen scales so I can monitor everything I’m eating closely.
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