Back/Shoulder/Neck pain
Discussion
I am getting very stiff upper back/neck and shoulder pain. I am 70% sure it is from sleeping funny, I sleep upside down or on my side and can't stop myself.
So should I see someone about it who can recommend the correct mattress/pillows for the way I sleep and possibly diagnose if that is what is causing it or should I go ahead and buy some pillows.
My mattress is fairly new, very expensive, but fairly firm which suits the Mrs but maybe not me? Would a foam topper help?
So should I see someone about it who can recommend the correct mattress/pillows for the way I sleep and possibly diagnose if that is what is causing it or should I go ahead and buy some pillows.
My mattress is fairly new, very expensive, but fairly firm which suits the Mrs but maybe not me? Would a foam topper help?
I have had lots of upper back / neck pain. It got so bad that sometimes I would wake up with tension headaches that would put me out of action.
I now have a firm memory foam pillow. Do some googling as there is lots of information on what you need but you basically need a pillow that is the correct size to keep your spine straight. I have been through about 4 pillows trying to find the right one. In the meantime a deep massage is got for releaving the tension and getting the knots out of your muscles.
I now have a firm memory foam pillow. Do some googling as there is lots of information on what you need but you basically need a pillow that is the correct size to keep your spine straight. I have been through about 4 pillows trying to find the right one. In the meantime a deep massage is got for releaving the tension and getting the knots out of your muscles.
XJSJohn said:
This is exactly what i get from driving a new or unfamiliar car that i have not got the driving position right in ... or from doing longer drives than usual ....
changed car, doing longer comutes?
No, not commuting. I walk to work. Had the same 2 cars for a while now.changed car, doing longer comutes?
Pretty sure it is to do with my bed.
Reading on the internet, it seems as a side sleeper I need a memory foam mattress (or at least a topper) and a firm pillow.
Is there a difference in memory foam - i.e. the expensive products to the cheaper stuff?
I'm not an expert, but having tried a couple of cheap memory foam toppers I bought this one...
http://www.dreams.co.uk/luxury-memory-foam-topper
and it's amazing. Totally transformed a nearly new, half decent mattress that felt alright to what feels like sleeping on a cloud!
I don't like memory foam pillows though... but again pehaps that's because I've only tried a couple of cheaper ones.
http://www.dreams.co.uk/luxury-memory-foam-topper
and it's amazing. Totally transformed a nearly new, half decent mattress that felt alright to what feels like sleeping on a cloud!
I don't like memory foam pillows though... but again pehaps that's because I've only tried a couple of cheaper ones.
Chances are you're suffering from too much sitting.
All that happens when you sleep is your muscles are released, they then spasm or knot but otherwise go beyond a hard workout and approach damage - RSI type effects basically. Before you can recover, you're off out for another hard day's sitting...
It takes about 20 years for the effects to begin. Unless you fix the problem, they get progressively worse until you die.
Back/shoulder/neck are all connected (as are head and bum/hips/legs/feet), your entire posterior. Muscles pull on each other. Headaches are a common side effect and misdiagnosed as eye-strain or stress in 90% of cases. A poor bed are also a common misdiagnosis and a while a better matress/pillow may seem to have a positive effect, all they do is alleviate the symptoms and move them on into later life, where eventually you end up with such chronic problems you're unfixable find yourself with a walking stick, zimmer-frame or a mobility scooter...
Too much sitting is going to be the next big epidemic after obesity as the generation that has had 50 years of sitting is only just getting old enough to feel the full force.
Have you had your posture checked - squat test or plumb-line?
All that happens when you sleep is your muscles are released, they then spasm or knot but otherwise go beyond a hard workout and approach damage - RSI type effects basically. Before you can recover, you're off out for another hard day's sitting...
It takes about 20 years for the effects to begin. Unless you fix the problem, they get progressively worse until you die.
Back/shoulder/neck are all connected (as are head and bum/hips/legs/feet), your entire posterior. Muscles pull on each other. Headaches are a common side effect and misdiagnosed as eye-strain or stress in 90% of cases. A poor bed are also a common misdiagnosis and a while a better matress/pillow may seem to have a positive effect, all they do is alleviate the symptoms and move them on into later life, where eventually you end up with such chronic problems you're unfixable find yourself with a walking stick, zimmer-frame or a mobility scooter...
Too much sitting is going to be the next big epidemic after obesity as the generation that has had 50 years of sitting is only just getting old enough to feel the full force.
Have you had your posture checked - squat test or plumb-line?
mattikake said:
Chances are you're suffering from too much sitting.
All that happens when you sleep is your muscles are released, they then spasm or knot but otherwise go beyond a hard workout and approach damage - RSI type effects basically. Before you can recover, you're off out for another hard day's sitting...
It takes about 20 years for the effects to begin. Unless you fix the problem, they get progressively worse until you die.
Back/shoulder/neck are all connected (as are head and bum/hips/legs/feet), your entire posterior. Muscles pull on each other. Headaches are a common side effect and misdiagnosed as eye-strain or stress in 90% of cases. A poor bed are also a common misdiagnosis and a while a better matress/pillow may seem to have a positive effect, all they do is alleviate the symptoms and move them on into later life, where eventually you end up with such chronic problems you're unfixable find yourself with a walking stick, zimmer-frame or a mobility scooter...
Too much sitting is going to be the next big epidemic after obesity as the generation that has had 50 years of sitting is only just getting old enough to feel the full force.
Have you had your posture checked - squat test or plumb-line?
So what is the solution ?All that happens when you sleep is your muscles are released, they then spasm or knot but otherwise go beyond a hard workout and approach damage - RSI type effects basically. Before you can recover, you're off out for another hard day's sitting...
It takes about 20 years for the effects to begin. Unless you fix the problem, they get progressively worse until you die.
Back/shoulder/neck are all connected (as are head and bum/hips/legs/feet), your entire posterior. Muscles pull on each other. Headaches are a common side effect and misdiagnosed as eye-strain or stress in 90% of cases. A poor bed are also a common misdiagnosis and a while a better matress/pillow may seem to have a positive effect, all they do is alleviate the symptoms and move them on into later life, where eventually you end up with such chronic problems you're unfixable find yourself with a walking stick, zimmer-frame or a mobility scooter...
Too much sitting is going to be the next big epidemic after obesity as the generation that has had 50 years of sitting is only just getting old enough to feel the full force.
Have you had your posture checked - squat test or plumb-line?
rs4al said:
mattikake said:
Chances are you're suffering from too much sitting.
All that happens when you sleep is your muscles are released, they then spasm or knot but otherwise go beyond a hard workout and approach damage - RSI type effects basically. Before you can recover, you're off out for another hard day's sitting...
It takes about 20 years for the effects to begin. Unless you fix the problem, they get progressively worse until you die.
Back/shoulder/neck are all connected (as are head and bum/hips/legs/feet), your entire posterior. Muscles pull on each other. Headaches are a common side effect and misdiagnosed as eye-strain or stress in 90% of cases. A poor bed are also a common misdiagnosis and a while a better matress/pillow may seem to have a positive effect, all they do is alleviate the symptoms and move them on into later life, where eventually you end up with such chronic problems you're unfixable find yourself with a walking stick, zimmer-frame or a mobility scooter...
Too much sitting is going to be the next big epidemic after obesity as the generation that has had 50 years of sitting is only just getting old enough to feel the full force.
Have you had your posture checked - squat test or plumb-line?
So what is the solution ?All that happens when you sleep is your muscles are released, they then spasm or knot but otherwise go beyond a hard workout and approach damage - RSI type effects basically. Before you can recover, you're off out for another hard day's sitting...
It takes about 20 years for the effects to begin. Unless you fix the problem, they get progressively worse until you die.
Back/shoulder/neck are all connected (as are head and bum/hips/legs/feet), your entire posterior. Muscles pull on each other. Headaches are a common side effect and misdiagnosed as eye-strain or stress in 90% of cases. A poor bed are also a common misdiagnosis and a while a better matress/pillow may seem to have a positive effect, all they do is alleviate the symptoms and move them on into later life, where eventually you end up with such chronic problems you're unfixable find yourself with a walking stick, zimmer-frame or a mobility scooter...
Too much sitting is going to be the next big epidemic after obesity as the generation that has had 50 years of sitting is only just getting old enough to feel the full force.
Have you had your posture checked - squat test or plumb-line?
Unofficially? Stretching, exercising and to replace as much of the sitting as possible with standing, kneeling, slouching...
This is an explanation:- http://www.mptp.info/corporate/fixdeskposture.html
This is aiding prevention:- https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3652030669...
Shameless self-plug perhaps but I'd rather not have to plug at all, and the truth is as truth etc.
Early symptoms are if you have a lordotic posture, anterior pelvic tilt, a sway back posture or even have a considerable spray-footed walk... back pain is just around the corner.
Bit busy atm. I've done my big post for the day so I'll have to come back about stretches and exercises. You could just search my older posts. I'd say google Mattikake+Pistonheads+Hip flexors
In fact that search produces this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In fact that search produces this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
mattikake said:
Bit busy atm. I've done my big post for the day so I'll have to come back about stretches and exercises. You could just search my older posts. I'd say google Mattikake+Pistonheads+Hip flexors
In fact that search produces this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Cheers Matt, exactly what I was after.In fact that search produces this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
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