Bye Bye kidney :(
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kowalski655

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15,211 posts

172 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Kowalski655 junior (kowalski327.5 if you will) has always had a dodgy kidney, in fact it was found on his pre natal scans, but now,at the age of nearly 10, it has given up and is effectively useless. After a lot of scanning, docs say it needs to come out,and he is due under the knife on Friday.

Apparently they will be getting it out via keyhole surgery,(presume they have to slice it up first to get it through the hole) but he is pretty damn nervous-hasnt slept much at all-and I'm worried for him too, not least as i have read Friday surgery has an 82% increased mortality rate! As if Friday afternoon cars aren't bad enough.

So, I'm in this bit to see if any PHers have had experience of this sort, will it be OK, will he be alright afterwards,etc.....just to reassure me and stop me bricking it!

RicksAlfas

14,494 posts

273 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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I have no medical knowledge, but I do know that you'd rather be going under the knife than him!
Good luck with it. I'm sure it will all go fine and he'll be fighting fit once he's recovered.

flashgit

57 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Hey Big K,
My Dad had a kidney (and some other bits) taken out earlier this year, also by keyhole. I was also nervous and can understand your worries - it'll all be OK and the wee Kowalski will be just fine.

Wacky Racer

41,251 posts

276 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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flashgit said:
Hey Big K,
My Dad had a kidney (and some other bits) taken out earlier this year, also by keyhole. I was also nervous and can understand your worries - it'll all be OK and the wee Kowalski will be just fine.
This,.. good luck to him.thumbup

The alternative is do nothing, which as you say doesn't seem to be an option.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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The Friday afternoon thing was Daily Mail nonsense so don't worry about that, my lad is 3 and he's been on antibiotics since he was born because of a dodgy bladder valve and kidney issue, it's a lot more common than you'd think so I'm sure to the docs these things are routine.

neenaw

1,225 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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The Friday afternoon thing is a load of cobblers.

When it all came out about this statistic, a couple of surgeons were interviewed and said that it's fairly standard practice to book surgeries for Friday afternoons for more complicated procedures, especially on the elderly and frail, where the patient would need extra care post-op. They would be kept in over the weekend as no-one would be able to discharge them until the Monday and due to the increased risks of these types of surgery there was a higher mortality rate.

I'd be pretty sure that none of this applies to Kowalski Jnr.

He'll be fine, you'll all be in great hands and well looked after smile

kowalski655

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15,211 posts

172 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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Thanks for the info guys, and for the support. You're right Ricksalfas, i would much rather it were me than him.
And I'm glad the Friday thing is crap, I guess if it ere that bad, there would be a huge investigation. Makes sense to keep him in,but they said he might be out in 24 hours!! I suppose the flip side of no one being about to discharge folk at the weekend is that there is no one there if things go tits up...but I'm sure that won't happen
Cheers

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th November 2013
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There are always people on hand in case things go tits up. Don't worry smile

And my dad is due for Surgery on Friday too - it'll be fine!

neenaw

1,225 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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kowalski655 said:
Thanks for the info guys, and for the support. You're right Ricksalfas, i would much rather it were me than him.
And I'm glad the Friday thing is crap, I guess if it ere that bad, there would be a huge investigation. Makes sense to keep him in,but they said he might be out in 24 hours!! I suppose the flip side of no one being about to discharge folk at the weekend is that there is no one there if things go tits up...but I'm sure that won't happen
Cheers
The people who aren't about to sort the discharge aren't the Dr's and the like, there'll always be a few of them kicking about, it's the admin and support staff that aren't available. If someone needs discharged and checked in on, they would struggle to organise social workers/carers/district nurses out of office hours.
If anything goes wrong, and I'm pretty sure it won't, there's plenty of people to look after he patients.

Despite what your wad in the papers and hear on the news, the huge majority of hospital staff are fantastic especially in children's wards. I've dealt with staff in numerous children's A+E departments and they've all been brilliant, usually much better the staff in the normal A+E dept!

kowalski655

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15,211 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Well, you can't expect the paper pushers to work odd hours smile
I'm taking him to Pizza Hut today as a prenop treat,he won't be allowed near any food tomorrow poor sod.
When he has been in,the Edinburgh Sick Kids has been great

Huntsman

9,313 posts

279 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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My mum's only had one kidney for the last 55 years and she's fine!

neenaw

1,225 posts

218 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Hope everything went well and the little fella's doing ok .

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

250 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Was thinking of your son today.

Just saw this pop up in My Stuff and thought I too would pass on good wishes. How was Pizza Hut?!

kowalski655

Original Poster:

15,211 posts

172 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Little k loved Pizza Hut, he ate more than me! I suppose he wasmstocking up to avoid hospital food smile
All went well, he was in for about 3 hours, was VERY pissed off when he woke up to find a cannula in..he freaksmwhen he has had them before, but chilled out quite quickly, hopefully he might be out tomorrow.
Thanks all for your advice and thoughts

mrpurple

2,624 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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kowalski655 said:
Little k loved Pizza Hut, he ate more than me! I suppose he wasmstocking up to avoid hospital food smile
All went well, he was in for about 3 hours, was VERY pissed off when he woke up to find a cannula in..he freaksmwhen he has had them before, but chilled out quite quickly, hopefully he might be out tomorrow.
Thanks all for your advice and thoughts
Tell him there are lots of grumpy old men on here that wish they were half as brave as he is wink

selym

9,581 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Tell him a load of rufty tufty men think he is a little hero; at least I do.

There is nothing worse than those moments like you experienced last night, where for a time you are totally helpless. Well, you didn't break down and were there when he woke up to comfort him.
Give yourselves a pat on the back!

kowalski655

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15,211 posts

172 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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I told him, put a smilemon hismface.
He is currently relaxing away from family with the Mrs in a Travel Lodge, so enjoying that bit, on the Xbox all day smile
Back to school next week though, he can't string it out foever, no matter how hard he tries.

Warw1ckHunt

280 posts

164 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Hope your little fella's feeling better.

There's no worse feeling in the world as a parent knowing your child is ill and there's bugger all you can do to make them better, other than be there and support them. You feel as if you've in some way failed to protect from harm as you should.

I have personal experience of my eldest needing a serious operation, all the way back when he was 3 (removal of craniopharyngioma brain tumour), he's 19 now!

I was humbled by the attitude of the kids I saw facing adversity in hospital. Some weren't old enough to comprehend fully what was going on, but even still, operations that would keep a adult in bed for weeks, moaning, whining and generally feeling sorry for themselves, kids seem to brush off as insignificant.

My son had a pituitary tumour removed through craniectomy, so it was a tense 8.5 hour operation, ICU for 36 hours and still he was going up and down the corridor on the ward on his scooter 72 hours later.

The memory of some of the kids I saw at the time will stay with me forever, I've never took life and health for granted since.

Best of luck!