Type 2 diabetes
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I have been in your situation (41)
18 months ago I stopped eating carbs-pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, cereals (they raise your blood sugar), I eat no sweets, sugar, cake, chocolate-nothing. At all. Ever. No booze.
After my first week, my blood sugars were back to "normal", even on the low side and have stayed that way since. Never had a reading above where it should be.
As a side effect, I also lost 6.5 stone.
I have never had any medication and do not intend to start.
You will have to change everything, or you will get worse, go blind and have all sorts of other issues.
Re books...I don't have any to recommend.
18 months ago I stopped eating carbs-pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, cereals (they raise your blood sugar), I eat no sweets, sugar, cake, chocolate-nothing. At all. Ever. No booze.
After my first week, my blood sugars were back to "normal", even on the low side and have stayed that way since. Never had a reading above where it should be.
As a side effect, I also lost 6.5 stone.
I have never had any medication and do not intend to start.
You will have to change everything, or you will get worse, go blind and have all sorts of other issues.
Re books...I don't have any to recommend.
Steviesam said:
I have been in your situation (41)
18 months ago I stopped eating carbs-pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, cereals (they raise your blood sugar), I eat no sweets, sugar, cake, chocolate-nothing. At all. Ever. No booze.
After my first week, my blood sugars were back to "normal", even on the low side and have stayed that way since. Never had a reading above where it should be.
As a side effect, I also lost 6.5 stone.
I have never had any medication and do not intend to start.
You will have to change everything, or you will get worse, go blind and have all sorts of other issues.
Re books...I don't have any to recommend.
Research has emerged to the effect that an 800 calorie per day diet enforced over three or four weeks reverses Type 2 diabetes permanently. Worth looking up.18 months ago I stopped eating carbs-pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, cereals (they raise your blood sugar), I eat no sweets, sugar, cake, chocolate-nothing. At all. Ever. No booze.
After my first week, my blood sugars were back to "normal", even on the low side and have stayed that way since. Never had a reading above where it should be.
As a side effect, I also lost 6.5 stone.
I have never had any medication and do not intend to start.
You will have to change everything, or you will get worse, go blind and have all sorts of other issues.
Re books...I don't have any to recommend.
Found a reputable source. Looks like early days but promising. Good luck OP.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/newcastle-study-600...
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/newcastle-study-600...
Justin Cyder said:
Found a reputable source. Looks like early days but promising. Good luck OP.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/newcastle-study-600...
Front page of the Sunday times last week too.http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/newcastle-study-600...
Justin Cyder said:
Found a reputable source. Looks like early days but promising. Good luck OP.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/newcastle-study-600...
Yes, but a from a "study" of 11 people so much caution should be advised...http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/newcastle-study-600...
Interesting it can be reversed with no medication - this assumes the raised suger was spotted the day it raised itself (unlikely) and no statins or beta blockers are needed. As most type 2 sufferers have it fir 6m to 2 years before noticing I take my hat off to anyone who knows they have it immediately - I didn't.
This is how it affects me, I was 17 stone, when diagnosed it dropped to 13 stone I cut out all the bad stuff I was miserable as sin, I took metformin my suger was 5 - 6 ish and pretty steady but eating was a pain it was boring I wasn't happy.
My diabetic nurse said a little of what you want is ok so I now have whatever I want but not to excess , I don't want coke and chocolate to be honest but I like to eat meals that others eat and I do.
I've had it 7 years and had no issues apart from preventative maintenance on my eyes paid for privately as NHS said it didn't need doing.
It's a shock, people get over emotional about it and over react - maybe that works for some but I found it bloody boring. I may croak 5 years early but who cares ? 75 not 80, 65 not 70? Check the stats it's not a death sentence BUT YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES!
Oh and the blood suger checking - you start to know if your high and a quick treadmill session works fir me, or a brisk walk if I'm out - I never ignore feeling high but don't need a prick to tell me when I am.
This is how it affects me, I was 17 stone, when diagnosed it dropped to 13 stone I cut out all the bad stuff I was miserable as sin, I took metformin my suger was 5 - 6 ish and pretty steady but eating was a pain it was boring I wasn't happy.
My diabetic nurse said a little of what you want is ok so I now have whatever I want but not to excess , I don't want coke and chocolate to be honest but I like to eat meals that others eat and I do.
I've had it 7 years and had no issues apart from preventative maintenance on my eyes paid for privately as NHS said it didn't need doing.
It's a shock, people get over emotional about it and over react - maybe that works for some but I found it bloody boring. I may croak 5 years early but who cares ? 75 not 80, 65 not 70? Check the stats it's not a death sentence BUT YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES!
Oh and the blood suger checking - you start to know if your high and a quick treadmill session works fir me, or a brisk walk if I'm out - I never ignore feeling high but don't need a prick to tell me when I am.
DSLiverpool said:
Interesting it can be reversed with no medication - this assumes the raised suger was spotted the day it raised itself (unlikely) and no statins or beta blockers are needed. As most type 2 sufferers have it fir 6m to 2 years before noticing I take my hat off to anyone who knows they have it immediately - I didn't.
This is how it affects me, I was 17 stone, when diagnosed it dropped to 13 stone I cut out all the bad stuff I was miserable as sin, I took metformin my suger was 5 - 6 ish and pretty steady but eating was a pain it was boring I wasn't happy.
My diabetic nurse said a little of what you want is ok so I now have whatever I want but not to excess , I don't want coke and chocolate to be honest but I like to eat meals that others eat and I do.
I've had it 7 years and had no issues apart from preventative maintenance on my eyes paid for privately as NHS said it didn't need doing.
It's a shock, people get over emotional about it and over react - maybe that works for some but I found it bloody boring. I may croak 5 years early but who cares ? 75 not 80, 65 not 70? Check the stats it's not a death sentence BUT YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES!
Oh and the blood suger checking - you start to know if your high and a quick treadmill session works fir me, or a brisk walk if I'm out - I never ignore feeling high but don't need a prick to tell me when I am.
I hear what you are saying, and maybe 5 years less life is justifiable.This is how it affects me, I was 17 stone, when diagnosed it dropped to 13 stone I cut out all the bad stuff I was miserable as sin, I took metformin my suger was 5 - 6 ish and pretty steady but eating was a pain it was boring I wasn't happy.
My diabetic nurse said a little of what you want is ok so I now have whatever I want but not to excess , I don't want coke and chocolate to be honest but I like to eat meals that others eat and I do.
I've had it 7 years and had no issues apart from preventative maintenance on my eyes paid for privately as NHS said it didn't need doing.
It's a shock, people get over emotional about it and over react - maybe that works for some but I found it bloody boring. I may croak 5 years early but who cares ? 75 not 80, 65 not 70? Check the stats it's not a death sentence BUT YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES!
Oh and the blood suger checking - you start to know if your high and a quick treadmill session works fir me, or a brisk walk if I'm out - I never ignore feeling high but don't need a prick to tell me when I am.
However, the final 10/15 years might not be that enjoyable. Kidney failure, amputation (its the most common cause of amputation) blindness, nueropathy and a whole host of other nasties.
My diabetic nurse told me the same as you-its the NHS line to have a balanced diet inc carbs and "a bit of what you like", but frankly, its rubbish. On the quiet, she told me the low/no carb diet is the best way (and of course nothing sweet) but the NHS will not back it, yet. The doctor meanwhile said I should eat carbs-she would not support a no carb diet. She is however always AMAZED by my readings and health improvements! "Go figure" and the yanks would say.
I think I had it for 3 years before a routine MOT caught it-who knows what damage I have already done? My eyes are not great, but hopefully will not get any worse now.
I am no preacher-I am just telling you my story/opinion. But dont think of me a clean living chap who sneers at everyone who eats the odd biscuit! I have all my live been enjoying all things to total excess-booze, food cigarettes, all of it.
But deep down we all know a debauched lifestyle cannot go on forever.
On top of that, I have NEVER felt as good as I do now. Literally, my life has been transformed.
Bolebroke said:
Steviesam - you are THE MAN ! Most of my family are diabetic and have this rather odd acceptance of it / victim mentality...you, Sir, should be on TV / Radio / newspapers as a glowing beacon of how to kick this self-inflicted nonsense into oblivion. Good man !
Thank you kind sir!DSLiverpool said:
Interesting it can be reversed with no medication
For most people it can't. The article isn't proof of anything. I saw an article in the daily mail that said life was started 10,000 years ago Earth by aliens, that doesn't make it true.Diabetes 2 is caused because part of your Pancreas (Islets of Langerhans) are f
ked, usually because of abuse of it through over indulgence, current understanding is it isn't an organ that can regenerate so a fad-diet by definition can't help unless you have some weird illness that isn't diabetes 2 but shows similar symptoms and you're misdiagnosed.The only solution is to adjust your diet as prescribed, and get some exercise in. If that still doesn't work drugs can used to help manage. Many use these as they fail to control themselves.
Everything you need to know is on the NHS website. But books like this exist which may help;
http://www.amazon.com/Think-Like-Pancreas-Practica...
Steviesam said:
I have been in your situation (41)
18 months ago I stopped eating carbs-pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, cereals (they raise your blood sugar), I eat no sweets, sugar, cake, chocolate-nothing. At all. Ever. No booze.
Out of genuine interest, what is your typical daily diet then?18 months ago I stopped eating carbs-pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, cereals (they raise your blood sugar), I eat no sweets, sugar, cake, chocolate-nothing. At all. Ever. No booze.
Prof Prolapse said:
Diabetes 2 is caused because part of your Pancreas (Islets of Langerhans) are fked, usually because of abuse of it through over indulgence, current understanding is it isn't an organ that can regenerate so a fad-diet by definition can't help unless you have some weird illness that isn't diabetes 2 but shows similar symptoms and you're misdiagnosed.
That's type 1. Type 2 is insulin resistance, the pancreas can still produce insulin but not enough, so changing diet and lifestyle may be enough to resensitize the cells enough to have normal insulin response.ked, usually because of abuse of it through over indulgence, current understanding is it isn't an organ that can regenerate so a fad-diet by definition can't help unless you have some weird illness that isn't diabetes 2 but shows similar symptoms and you're misdiagnosed.PlayersNo6 said:
Out of genuine interest, what is your typical daily diet then?
I have 2 hard boiled eggs and 2 rasher of bacon for breakfast (eaten in the car on the way to work!)Mid morning snack of an apple and carrot sticks.
Lunch is a large salad with meat/tuna/cheese and salad cream. Then an orange or another apple.
Dinner I usually have steak/fish or chicken with steamed veg, chicken/salmon stir fry, stew, curry (all with veg, not rice or potatoes). Sometimes an omlette.
All of the above is home made, no packet currys or the like, all with fresh ingredients.
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