Treadmill or track, which do you find faster?
Treadmill or track, which do you find faster?
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sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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By track I mean outside in general, on hard ground. I find I'm marginally quicker outside.

Lynch91

525 posts

168 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Outside, I much prefer training outside as well, no fear of tripping and flying off the end of the treadmill.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Far faster outside - the testing I've had done when training properly was always on treadmills and the results/predictions always slower than my actual race performances. I've never liked treadmill running so would always rather be out in the bad weather anyway.

mattikake

5,110 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Track.

On a treadmill it's difficult to push yourself. In the real world if you push and have to fall back on pace you're ok. On a treadmill you're in trouble doing that or have to bail early flailing at the controls, so most people generally run a bit under their capable pace for safety/comfort/peace of mind.

All but the best treadmills take you for a ride anyway. So treadmills are good for jogging and cruising but flawed when it comes to really pushing yourself.

It's for that reason I never do serious HIIT, power or sprint training on a treadmill with clients... and simply never use a treadmill myself.

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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I'm forced to use them for my 1.5 mile run. Don't like them. However from now on it's all outside smile

Muzzer79

13,032 posts

216 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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I must be in the minority with treadmill....

I find that it forces me to maintain a constant higher pace.

Outside has hills & wind resistance, both of which slow me down. I'm generally a good few mins faster on the 'mill.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

152 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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I no longer run however when I did I always preferred running outdoors although I was quicker on a treadmill. I guess the treadmill belt assists leg turnover hence making it easier to run faster.

chippy348

711 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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I am new to running, only been at it for 18 months or so. I do a mixture of road and TM but this time of the year it is nearly always treadmill. I have done a few 10k runs on the road and you are quicker on the TM, but there is no hills or wind to slow you down.

I do find it very mind numbing on the TM mainly because you can hit that stop button anytime you like where as on the road you have to keep on going if you want to make it back home, i have done much longer distance on the road then on the TM mainly as i can zone out and push further on the road.

As a side note, what is your average running speed on the TM and what time do you run ?

At the moment i do interval for 5k IE run at 14 kph for 1 min then walk for 1 min and repeat. The fastest i have ever run is 20 kph but only for 1 min.

For long runs 45 mins + i start of at 10.5 and end around 13.5


ExV8

3,652 posts

244 months

Tuesday 14th January 2014
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Outdoots/track for me.

Treadmills become quite boring and i find it harder to run at a high pace. Outdoors regardless of weather it seems easier to maintain.

theshrew

6,008 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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I do more tradmill running i dont mind it at one of the gyms i go to as i can watch people swimming or tv it takes the edge off it.

I like running outside but more so in winter, I hate running in the heat.

Id say i was probably about the same on both. At least on a mill im running at a constant pace. When im outside my split times seem to go up and down quite a lot tbh even though i use a running app on my phone. Tells me what im doing every 0.5m i find myself having to kick on a bit sometimes if my split was slow when i didnt even realise id slowed down.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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theshrew said:
Id say i was probably about the same on both. At least on a mill im running at a constant pace. When im outside my split times seem to go up and down quite a lot tbh even though i use a running app on my phone. Tells me what im doing every 0.5m i find myself having to kick on a bit sometimes if my split was slow when i didnt even realise id slowed down.
I'd class that as an important part of training (assuming someone is training for a specific event e.g. a 10k/HM/Marathon). Learning to read and understand the signals their body is providing to enable them to accurately judge effort and pace is valuable training.

Edited by ewenm on Wednesday 15th January 09:50

theshrew

6,008 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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Yes I agree. Think at the moment it's probably because I've only been doing the odd one hear n there for the last 6 months. Seemed to be a lot more consistent when I ran regular.

I'm not training for anything I just mix up training a bit sometimes more weights sometimes more cardio keeps it interesting.

junglie

2,051 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th January 2014
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There are pros and cons to running on the treadmill or outside and they are easy to work out for your own needs.

The treadmill is good because it usually means it is in a gym (away from the elements) and you can run on a fixed programme so a good way to monitor your fitness.

Outside is great because you have natural variation as well as the fresh air etc.

For Sparks E39 - for what you are about to undergo you need to be outside. Running a 1.5 mile circuit is fine but that is only half the battle. Concentrating on variation is key. You need to do some interval training to get anaerobic fitness up, longer distances for stamina, cross country routes to go over obstacles and then get back up to speed quickly and generally improve aerobic fitness. Circuit training is also a good thing to be doing.

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Thanks for all the replies. Very interesting. I'm up to a minute quicker on my 1.5 mile outside, I've just done it now.

ecain63

10,651 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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What are you joining sparks?

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Royal Navy, surface fleet. Joining as a communications and systems specialist for the surface fleet.

ecain63

10,651 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Lol. Dont be 100% set on surface fleet. You'll be streamed once you finish training. Been there myself.

I was an artificer back in 98. Joined with a view to becoming a 45 gun maintainer. Most of my entry got sent to submarine school! I transferred to the Royal Marines and never looked back. My dad was a submariner for 37 years so took sound advice.

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Haha, they told me because I'm only 5'7 I'd be perfect on the subs! Cheeky... hehe

Tbh I don't really mind, I chose surface fleet because it just seemed to appeal more, but of course I'll go where they send me. After 3 and a half years waiting I'll be just glad to start!

ecain63

10,651 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Well enjoy yourself whichever side of the waves you serve. Its a big world ripe for exploring and youre going to love it. I sure did!

Eddie

sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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ecain63 said:
Well enjoy yourself whichever side of the waves you serve. Its a big world ripe for exploring and youre going to love it. I sure did!

Eddie
Thanks! Always good to hear from current or ex serving smile