And they call it 'Care' (Vitriolic Rant inside)
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FightTheFuture said:
By the time I’m old I fully expect to be left to die in a corner, then have my body turned into Soylent f
king Green. Probably by poorly-educated, apathetic twenty-somethings with detached and vacant expressions who bear a striking resemblance to bloody agency nurses.
If you have a problem with the younger generations, take it up with the older ones who raised and taught them, it's because of them the younger generations are the way they are.king Green. Probably by poorly-educated, apathetic twenty-somethings with detached and vacant expressions who bear a striking resemblance to bloody agency nurses.My old nan ended up in hospital. They lost her hearing aid, put the wrong name above her bed and she was wearing someone else's glasses. To top it off they couldn't find a pillow for her. She was so confused I wanted to be physically sick seeing her so distressed
I found her a pillow
She rotted there for a few weeks then died
I found her a pillow
She rotted there for a few weeks then died
Mobile Chicane said:
Marks out of 10 for your rant?
What an insolent question to even ask.
You should be your Granny's side, doing what you can for her, rather than waving your Caring Dick to strangers on the internet.
Shame on you.
Seriously? What an insolent question to even ask.
You should be your Granny's side, doing what you can for her, rather than waving your Caring Dick to strangers on the internet.
Shame on you.
I'm sure he doesn't give a s
t about what anyone thinks his rant is worth out of 10. He's just venting, with a tiny bit of light heartedness at the end. You have my sympathies, OP. Both of my Grandmothers were well looked after before they died and I still couldn't stand seeing them lying there helpless in bed. Horrible.
All the best.
Well, various healthcare agencies did all they could for my dad and grandparents before they died, I can't fault them.
It's a pity people only come online to complain, badmouthing people who have no means of defending themselves, pushing grievances, real or imagined, onto strangers, is pretty bad form if you ask me.
Condolences and all that, but your energies might be better placed elsewhere.
It's a pity people only come online to complain, badmouthing people who have no means of defending themselves, pushing grievances, real or imagined, onto strangers, is pretty bad form if you ask me.
Condolences and all that, but your energies might be better placed elsewhere.
Mobile Chicane said:
Marks out of 10 for your rant?
What an insolent question to even ask.
You should be your Granny's side, doing what you can for her, rather than waving your Caring Dick to strangers on the internet.
Shame on you.
I don't mind, but you have kind of missed the point. I've been with my gran, in hospital pretty much every minute of visiting hours for the last three weeks. I'm self-employed, so I've lost three weeks of work (luckily, I have a brilliant business partner who's kept things running without so much as a word of complaint). I'm not saying that to gain sympathy, I believe (as you clearly do too) that you should move heaven and earth for family without a second's thought. It's just that visiting hours are over, I'm at home and I'm angry as all hell about the bullsWhat an insolent question to even ask.
You should be your Granny's side, doing what you can for her, rather than waving your Caring Dick to strangers on the internet.
Shame on you.
t state of our society. If I can vent my spleen on the internet and perhaps force the hint of a wry smile out of some jaded and cynical mouths, then I figured that can't hurt. As others have said, it's a small moment of levity before I have to deal with it all again tomorrow morning.No need for willy waving- I'd like to think most people's Caring Dicks would swing well enough, when it comes to it.
Also:
Axionknight- I tend to blame the system rather than any individual in the case of education (and I know the system is made up of individuals, but that's a Gordian knot that I'm not about to unpick after three long weeks and two large scotches!), but nobody gets a free pass for lack of empathy and plain old human decency. Also, whether rightly or wrongly I feel a little more entitled to complain about the younger generations because I'm only 29- doesn't feel that long ago to me!
Spare Tyre- I'm really sorry to hear that, I can only imagine what I'd feel under those circumstances. I hope it doesn't come to that with my gran.
Ali_kat- bed, hoist, commode, the works. The thing is, she doesn't really need any of them. When they brought the hoist into the ward to show me how to use it, they were having a bit of trouble getting the cradle under my gran so she stood up to make it easier! She's had a commode for ages, but apparently it isn't the right sort of thing. More ticky-box idiocy. I imagine they think that if they let her come home and anything happens, I'll be on the phone to some f
king tabloid or other within seconds. Again, so much for common-sense and decency. When did the world get so horrible?Hapless/Lotus- Many thanks- I guess lots of people have been where I am, kind of comforting I guess.
ETA- Papa Hotel- I understand where you're coming from, this is in fact the first time I've ever said a bad word about anyone on the internet, in any form. Some things are just too much to let slide. And yes, this is not in the least bit constructive, but in a strange way it helped to write down some sarcastic cobblers. I accept that the people I'm writing about (and note, I'm not saying which hospital or even trust this all refers to), can't defend themselves here, but neither can they be hurt by it. For me this is very specific, for you it's more as a general indictment of the state of things- and I don't think that it does any harm to bring this kind of thing up every now and again.
Also, I'm glad that your experiences with care have been good ones. I'd be the first to admit that my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's, and I'm sure there are a lot of good people out there. I just don't seem to have come into contact with many of them!
Edited by FightTheFuture on Monday 3rd March 22:26
To further PH's comment, my future MIL, in her 70s, had a fall a couple of weeks ago, breaking her leg, splitting the bone and removing any link between her artificial knee and her leg.
The prognosis was pretty bad, and we were making all sorts of contingency plans.
Her NHS consultant's boss decided it was an interesting case, took responsibility, and after surgery she was back home within a week and we cannot speak highly enough of the care she received.
No help in your case, I know, but there are a lot of dedicated people doing great work, and I mention it for the sake of balance.
The prognosis was pretty bad, and we were making all sorts of contingency plans.
Her NHS consultant's boss decided it was an interesting case, took responsibility, and after surgery she was back home within a week and we cannot speak highly enough of the care she received.
No help in your case, I know, but there are a lot of dedicated people doing great work, and I mention it for the sake of balance.
Justayellowbadge said:
To further PH's comment, my future MIL, in her 70s, had a fall a couple of weeks ago, breaking her leg, splitting the bone and removing any link between her artificial knee and her leg.
The prognosis was pretty bad, and we were making all sorts of contingency plans.
Her NHS consultant's boss decided it was an interesting case, took responsibility, and after surgery she was back home within a week and we cannot speak highly enough of the care she received.
No help in your case, I know, but there are a lot of dedicated people doing great work, and I mention it for the sake of balance.
I think outweighed by those who (institutionally) don't give a sThe prognosis was pretty bad, and we were making all sorts of contingency plans.
Her NHS consultant's boss decided it was an interesting case, took responsibility, and after surgery she was back home within a week and we cannot speak highly enough of the care she received.
No help in your case, I know, but there are a lot of dedicated people doing great work, and I mention it for the sake of balance.
t though: "You've had your four score years and ten, now fk off".In situations such as this, you need to be there all the time. You need to do it because it's a practical support and also because, as ridiculous as this may read, you need to show that your gran is loved, important and valued.
Sadly, the human condition tends to forget the person and see the patient and medicine needs the odd reminder that there is a cherished person beyond the patient.
Best of luck with your gran
DMN
Sadly, the human condition tends to forget the person and see the patient and medicine needs the odd reminder that there is a cherished person beyond the patient.
Best of luck with your gran
DMN
drivin_me_nuts said:
In situations such as this, you need to be there all the time. You need to do it because it's a practical support and also because, as ridiculous as this may read, you need to show that your gran is loved, important and valued.
Sadly, the human condition tends to forget the person and see the patient and medicine needs the odd reminder that there is a cherished person beyond the patient.
Best of luck with your gran
DMN
Quite right, DMN. Sadly, the human condition tends to forget the person and see the patient and medicine needs the odd reminder that there is a cherished person beyond the patient.
Best of luck with your gran
DMN
I'm not under the remotest illusion that if I hadn't sat with my father near enough 24/7 while he was dying that the Drs wouldn't have withdrawn fluids and left him to suffer.
The nurses even commented on it. However he was 85. Me, 35. Not the usual scenario, and a bit of a Boadicea with it.
Hate to say it, but in today's NHS - or indeed seemingly anything in modern life where crapness reigns - unless you stand over people to ensure they do what they've supposedly committed to do, it doesn't happen.
Edited by Mobile Chicane on Monday 3rd March 22:54
You know what, this was a good idea because even the one page of replies has made me realise that there are plenty of people who have to deal with far worse than a delayed grandma. I'm deleting my rant now, because although I pretty much stand by what I said, it seems disrespectful to people who've gone through some really terrible things. In a weird way, I feel cheered up and slightly more able to cope, so thanks everybody for that, and for your kind wishes. Bedtime now.
Besides, nobody gave me a score
Besides, nobody gave me a score
FightTheFuture said:
ETA- Papa Hotel- I understand where you're coming from, this is in fact the first time I've ever said a bad word about anyone on the internet, in any form. Some things are just too much to let slide. And yes, this is not in the least bit constructive, but in a strange way it helped to write down some sarcastic cobblers. I accept that the people I'm writing about (and note, I'm not saying which hospital or even trust this all refers to), can't defend themselves here, but neither can they be hurt by it. For me this is very specific, for you it's more as a general indictment of the state of things- and I don't think that it does any harm to bring this kind of thing up every now and again.
Also, I'm glad that your experiences with care have been good ones. I'd be the first to admit that my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's, and I'm sure there are a lot of good people out there. I just don't seem to have come into contact with many of them!
There really are. The vast majority of nurses and doctors don't think to themselves "Right, those years in uni are going to be a pain in the arse and I'm going to spend the next 40 years doing a job I hate but I can't wait for the fat pension."Also, I'm glad that your experiences with care have been good ones. I'd be the first to admit that my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's, and I'm sure there are a lot of good people out there. I just don't seem to have come into contact with many of them!
Edited by FightTheFuture on Monday 3rd March 22:26
They genuinely do care but sometimes it's hard to see that when you're focussing on one person and they're looking after 30. It's a tough job, nursing.
Apologies if my first post seemed a bit off, it wasn't meant to, but I really don't think nurses get the credit they deserve, they do what they can within parameters dictated from above.
FightTheFuture said:
You know what, this was a good idea because even the one page of replies has made me realise that there are plenty of people who have to deal with far worse than a delayed grandma. I'm deleting my rant now, because although I pretty much stand by what I said, it seems disrespectful to people who've gone through some really terrible things. In a weird way, I feel cheered up and slightly more able to cope, so thanks everybody for that, and for your kind wishes. Bedtime now.
Besides, nobody gave me a score
Be there. Physically. As often as you can.Besides, nobody gave me a score
Because if you don't, no-one else will give a toss.
10/10 if you can get her back into her own home, with the care she needs.
Again, hate to say it - you'll need to be vigilant here too. Private agency 'carers' get £8.50 an hour (if lucky) for a 20-minute visit, with no paid travel time between calls.
Abuses here are rife too.
Mobile Chicane said:
Be there. Physically. As often as you can.
Because if you don't, no-one else will give a toss.
10/10 if you can get her back into her own home, with the care she needs.
Again, hate to say it - you'll need to be vigilant here too. Private agency 'carers' get £8.50 an hour (if lucky) for a 20-minute visit, with no paid travel time between calls.
Abuses here are rife too.
I am all too aware that this may be the case. I can be flexible with work, so I'll do everything I can.Because if you don't, no-one else will give a toss.
10/10 if you can get her back into her own home, with the care she needs.
Again, hate to say it - you'll need to be vigilant here too. Private agency 'carers' get £8.50 an hour (if lucky) for a 20-minute visit, with no paid travel time between calls.
Abuses here are rife too.
On a side note, I'll tell you who on the whole seem to be really nice people- the cleaning staff. They seem almost without exception to be sensible, kind and considerate, to the extent that on more than one occasion I've seen them get told off for spending too much time talking to the patients. Doesn't that just say it all.
Right, really bedtime now.
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