Dentist or dentist hospital? PH dentist input appreciated
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Hi all,
I'm currently suffering some serious toothache in multiple teeth. I think my dentist might (probably my paranoia) have been partly responsible so am unsure wether to go back to him or go to the dental hospital tomorrow morning. Back story below.
About two months ago I had some serious toothache in one of my molars. I wasn't registered with a dentist so went to the dental hospital as I'd been putting up with agony for weeks.
The dentist at the hospital was brilliant! He x-rayed my teeth with a machine that circled my head, then showed me that one root was missing from a molar that had previously been crowned years ago. He said he'd extract that tooth now and arrange for a filling and a clean and a later date.
I had the extraction that day, but was unable to meet the next appointment set up for me due to joint issues affecting my ability to walk. During my recovery my teeth felt great, but I decided to join a practice and get the filing sorted out.
I joined a local practice and had to go through the x-rays again, but this time the dentist said I needed three fillings and descaling.
On my first appointment I had one filling done and some descaling. This filling has caused me pain on and off ever since and the descaling left some pain that seemed to come and go.The dentist also fitted me for two false teeth that I had missing from when I was younger and mentioned having a bridge done.
The second appointment I had another one of the fillings done and the final part of the descaling, god that was painful!. This last descaling has left me with multiple toothaches that come and go in all my teeth, the toothaches last about an hour or two and can effect as much as three teeth at a time (bloody agony!)
On my third appointment I was given my final filling and the false tooth to get use too, as the dentist wants me to have a bridge done by him privately, this is costed at £1115 Though due to my disability that money is pie in the sky for me. This third filling done a week ago has left me in agony constantly. I put up with literally crippling joint issues that cause horrific pain, but this tooth just about equals that.
I can't eat with it as if my top molar touches it, it's really painful.
Before I went to the local dentist I really didn't have any pain, but the three occasions I've now been I'm left with raging toothache and am literally eating rice and porridge as I can't chew. I'm not wanting to put all the blame at his doorstop as I have inflammation issues and maybe that's the cause. I've mentioned the toothache I'm left with to the dentist when I'm their, but he hasn't really said anything about it apart from they can be sensitive for a while, and if the fillings keep hurting they may need to come out. This would leave me with most of my molars missing from the bottom of my mouth though and loose my ability to chew.
So that's my predicament PHers go back to my my maybe incompetent dentist and possibly have tooth removed, or head back to the dental hospital and see what they say. Either way something will have to be done, I can't keep going every waking hour in hellish toothache.
Post might be a bit incoherent, Pain!
I'm currently suffering some serious toothache in multiple teeth. I think my dentist might (probably my paranoia) have been partly responsible so am unsure wether to go back to him or go to the dental hospital tomorrow morning. Back story below.
About two months ago I had some serious toothache in one of my molars. I wasn't registered with a dentist so went to the dental hospital as I'd been putting up with agony for weeks.
The dentist at the hospital was brilliant! He x-rayed my teeth with a machine that circled my head, then showed me that one root was missing from a molar that had previously been crowned years ago. He said he'd extract that tooth now and arrange for a filling and a clean and a later date.
I had the extraction that day, but was unable to meet the next appointment set up for me due to joint issues affecting my ability to walk. During my recovery my teeth felt great, but I decided to join a practice and get the filing sorted out.
I joined a local practice and had to go through the x-rays again, but this time the dentist said I needed three fillings and descaling.
On my first appointment I had one filling done and some descaling. This filling has caused me pain on and off ever since and the descaling left some pain that seemed to come and go.The dentist also fitted me for two false teeth that I had missing from when I was younger and mentioned having a bridge done.
The second appointment I had another one of the fillings done and the final part of the descaling, god that was painful!. This last descaling has left me with multiple toothaches that come and go in all my teeth, the toothaches last about an hour or two and can effect as much as three teeth at a time (bloody agony!)
On my third appointment I was given my final filling and the false tooth to get use too, as the dentist wants me to have a bridge done by him privately, this is costed at £1115 Though due to my disability that money is pie in the sky for me. This third filling done a week ago has left me in agony constantly. I put up with literally crippling joint issues that cause horrific pain, but this tooth just about equals that.
I can't eat with it as if my top molar touches it, it's really painful.
Before I went to the local dentist I really didn't have any pain, but the three occasions I've now been I'm left with raging toothache and am literally eating rice and porridge as I can't chew. I'm not wanting to put all the blame at his doorstop as I have inflammation issues and maybe that's the cause. I've mentioned the toothache I'm left with to the dentist when I'm their, but he hasn't really said anything about it apart from they can be sensitive for a while, and if the fillings keep hurting they may need to come out. This would leave me with most of my molars missing from the bottom of my mouth though and loose my ability to chew.
So that's my predicament PHers go back to my my maybe incompetent dentist and possibly have tooth removed, or head back to the dental hospital and see what they say. Either way something will have to be done, I can't keep going every waking hour in hellish toothache.
Post might be a bit incoherent, Pain!
You have my sympathy. My last two fillings have been similar to yours; no symptoms but picked up on the checkup that they needed filling.
Filling done, then sensitive to pressure afterwards. The one on the LHS isn't too bad but the one on the RHS is a total nightmare and any pressure crusty bread, nuts etc causes pain. Only however when i'm eating, nothing ay other times.
I know that it might take a week or so to settle down but it's been going on for ages now and given that it's happened on the last 2 visits I don't really trust my dentist to sort it adeqauetly.
Please let me know how you get on - I really hope you get it sorted and I'd be interested to know what the issue was.
Filling done, then sensitive to pressure afterwards. The one on the LHS isn't too bad but the one on the RHS is a total nightmare and any pressure crusty bread, nuts etc causes pain. Only however when i'm eating, nothing ay other times.
I know that it might take a week or so to settle down but it's been going on for ages now and given that it's happened on the last 2 visits I don't really trust my dentist to sort it adeqauetly.
Please let me know how you get on - I really hope you get it sorted and I'd be interested to know what the issue was.
markant said:
I've mentioned the toothache I'm left with to the dentist when I'm their, but he hasn't really said anything about it apart from they can be sensitive for a while, and if the fillings keep hurting they may need to come out. This would leave me with most of my molars missing from the bottom of my mouth though and loose my ability to chew.
Are you sure he didn't mean the fillings would gave to come out?If they were white fillings sometimes these can cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while (which often calms spontaneously) and sometimes they have to be replaced to stop the sensitivity.
Driller said:
Are you sure he didn't mean the fillings would gave to come out?
If they were white fillings sometimes these can cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while (which often calms spontaneously) and sometimes they have to be replaced to stop the sensitivity.
Hi Driller, no he meant the tooth, I'll update below.If they were white fillings sometimes these can cause the tooth to be sensitive for a while (which often calms spontaneously) and sometimes they have to be replaced to stop the sensitivity.
During the night of my original post the glands under my chin swelled up and were causing me considerable pain. I couldn't swallow or talk without difficulty or even sleep for that matter. Lowering my chin below level would impress upon the glands and it was a nightmare.
With this and the toothaches I just went to see my dentist first thing. He told me the multiple toothaches I have are probably just referred pain. The glands he says are an infection and I would need a course of antibiotics (my worst nightmare!) and the tooth would have to come out. I told him I wasn't prepared to lose the tooth just like that and what possibly can be done to save it. He said he'd freeze me and have a look, I told him don't take the tooth without my permission as this would lose my ability to chew on the left side.
So he's cracking on and hitting my nerve every so often (jesus!) and I tell him I'll need more freeze. I asked him what's happening then? as by this time I've been in the chair twenty minutes. I suspected root canal and he confirms it. Fifty minutes later I'm out the chair and he says I'll have too come back Monday for the the second part of the root canal.
Before I leave he brings up the antibiotics. I tell him I'm one of the few people that take bad reactions and mention the hobbling and pain he can see was left by my last batch I took. Understandably he doesn't want to prescribe me them and tells me to phone my doctor. I phone the doctor and he's quite irate the dentist wouldn't prescribe them, asks for his name and address of pratice and tells me to tell the dentist when I next see him next the doctor is not happy. Understandably nobody wan't to take responsibility for the reactions I'll probably suffer.
Monday, back for part two of the root canal. Mention conversation with doctor and the dentist tells me he has no idea of my history and with the reactions I describe, and what he can see he isn't prepared to take a chance, I agree. We crack on with part two of root canal and he keeps hitting nerves, I'm given a bit more freeze and we continue. The freeze doesn't seem to help too much so i put up with the pain until whatever implement he's using get's stuck on or near the nerve! I nearly jump out the chair. I start laughing uncontrollably (pain), the dentist starts laughing and the assistant can't help herself either. All three of us laugh for about two minutes unable too stop, completely surreal moment.
Root canal finished, dentist said he can't get access too one of my nerves and he'll see me this Friday to see how I'm getting on.
I'm day three on the antibiotics and every joint in my body won't stop painfully cracking. I'm having to keep my shoulders pinned to my sides as movement from shoulders is causing pain. My hands, wrists and elbows are in excruciating pain (taken me an hour to type this) and my neck has gone too. Lol. Painkillers won't touch this pain. I'm expecting it too start hitting other joints and tendons shortly. Hopefully won't be left with any permanent damage like last time. At least it hasn't thrown my heart rate through the roof or gave me the pressure in my head...yet. The dentist will be glad when he see's me Friday he didn't do the prescribing.
Just to top it off, yesterday I coughed and I think a filling has been disturbed. Nightmare!
Sorry dxg, forgot too say nothing was mentioned of problems down the road regards a bridge.
Edited by markant on Wednesday 11th February 14:32
markant said:
Hi all,
I'm currently suffering some serious toothache in multiple teeth. I think my dentist might (probably my paranoia) have been partly responsible so am unsure wether to go back to him or go to the dental hospital tomorrow morning. Back story below.
About two months ago I had some serious toothache in one of my molars. I wasn't registered with a dentist so went to the dental hospital as I'd been putting up with agony for weeks.
The dentist at the hospital was brilliant! He x-rayed my teeth with a machine that circled my head, then showed me that one root was missing from a molar that had previously been crowned years ago. He said he'd extract that tooth now and arrange for a filling and a clean and a later date.
I had the extraction that day, but was unable to meet the next appointment set up for me due to joint issues affecting my ability to walk. During my recovery my teeth felt great, but I decided to join a practice and get the filing sorted out.
I joined a local practice and had to go through the x-rays again, but this time the dentist said I needed three fillings and descaling.
On my first appointment I had one filling done and some descaling. This filling has caused me pain on and off ever since and the descaling left some pain that seemed to come and go.The dentist also fitted me for two false teeth that I had missing from when I was younger and mentioned having a bridge done.
The second appointment I had another one of the fillings done and the final part of the descaling, god that was painful!. This last descaling has left me with multiple toothaches that come and go in all my teeth, the toothaches last about an hour or two and can effect as much as three teeth at a time (bloody agony!)
On my third appointment I was given my final filling and the false tooth to get use too, as the dentist wants me to have a bridge done by him privately, this is costed at £1115 Though due to my disability that money is pie in the sky for me. This third filling done a week ago has left me in agony constantly. I put up with literally crippling joint issues that cause horrific pain, but this tooth just about equals that.
I can't eat with it as if my top molar touches it, it's really painful.
Before I went to the local dentist I really didn't have any pain, but the three occasions I've now been I'm left with raging toothache and am literally eating rice and porridge as I can't chew. I'm not wanting to put all the blame at his doorstop as I have inflammation issues and maybe that's the cause. I've mentioned the toothache I'm left with to the dentist when I'm their, but he hasn't really said anything about it apart from they can be sensitive for a while, and if the fillings keep hurting they may need to come out. This would leave me with most of my molars missing from the bottom of my mouth though and loose my ability to chew.
So that's my predicament PHers go back to my my maybe incompetent dentist and possibly have tooth removed, or head back to the dental hospital and see what they say. Either way something will have to be done, I can't keep going every waking hour in hellish toothache.
Post might be a bit incoherent, Pain!
I'm currently suffering some serious toothache in multiple teeth. I think my dentist might (probably my paranoia) have been partly responsible so am unsure wether to go back to him or go to the dental hospital tomorrow morning. Back story below.
About two months ago I had some serious toothache in one of my molars. I wasn't registered with a dentist so went to the dental hospital as I'd been putting up with agony for weeks.
The dentist at the hospital was brilliant! He x-rayed my teeth with a machine that circled my head, then showed me that one root was missing from a molar that had previously been crowned years ago. He said he'd extract that tooth now and arrange for a filling and a clean and a later date.
I had the extraction that day, but was unable to meet the next appointment set up for me due to joint issues affecting my ability to walk. During my recovery my teeth felt great, but I decided to join a practice and get the filing sorted out.
I joined a local practice and had to go through the x-rays again, but this time the dentist said I needed three fillings and descaling.
On my first appointment I had one filling done and some descaling. This filling has caused me pain on and off ever since and the descaling left some pain that seemed to come and go.The dentist also fitted me for two false teeth that I had missing from when I was younger and mentioned having a bridge done.
The second appointment I had another one of the fillings done and the final part of the descaling, god that was painful!. This last descaling has left me with multiple toothaches that come and go in all my teeth, the toothaches last about an hour or two and can effect as much as three teeth at a time (bloody agony!)
On my third appointment I was given my final filling and the false tooth to get use too, as the dentist wants me to have a bridge done by him privately, this is costed at £1115 Though due to my disability that money is pie in the sky for me. This third filling done a week ago has left me in agony constantly. I put up with literally crippling joint issues that cause horrific pain, but this tooth just about equals that.
I can't eat with it as if my top molar touches it, it's really painful.
Before I went to the local dentist I really didn't have any pain, but the three occasions I've now been I'm left with raging toothache and am literally eating rice and porridge as I can't chew. I'm not wanting to put all the blame at his doorstop as I have inflammation issues and maybe that's the cause. I've mentioned the toothache I'm left with to the dentist when I'm their, but he hasn't really said anything about it apart from they can be sensitive for a while, and if the fillings keep hurting they may need to come out. This would leave me with most of my molars missing from the bottom of my mouth though and loose my ability to chew.
So that's my predicament PHers go back to my my maybe incompetent dentist and possibly have tooth removed, or head back to the dental hospital and see what they say. Either way something will have to be done, I can't keep going every waking hour in hellish toothache.
Post might be a bit incoherent, Pain!
markant said:
Hi Driller, no he meant the tooth, I'll update below.
During the night of my original post the glands under my chin swelled up and were causing me considerable pain. I couldn't swallow or talk without difficulty or even sleep for that matter. Lowering my chin below level would impress upon the glands and it was a nightmare.
With this and the toothaches I just went to see my dentist first thing. He told me the multiple toothaches I have are probably just referred pain. The glands he says are an infection and I would need a course of antibiotics (my worst nightmare!) and the tooth would have to come out. I told him I wasn't prepared to lose the tooth just like that and what possibly can be done to save it. He said he'd freeze me and have a look, I told him don't take the tooth without my permission as this would lose my ability to chew on the left side.
So he's cracking on and hitting my nerve every so often (jesus!) and I tell him I'll need more freeze. I asked him what's happening then? as by this time I've been in the chair twenty minutes. I suspected root canal and he confirms it. Fifty minutes later I'm out the chair and he says I'll have too come back Monday for the the second part of the root canal.
Before I leave he brings up the antibiotics. I tell him I'm one of the few people that take bad reactions and mention the hobbling and pain he can see was left by my last batch I took. Understandably he doesn't want to prescribe me them and tells me to phone my doctor. I phone the doctor and he's quite irate the dentist wouldn't prescribe them, asks for his name and address of pratice and tells me to tell the dentist when I next see him next the doctor is not happy. Understandably nobody wan't to take responsibility for the reactions I'll probably suffer.
Monday, back for part two of the root canal. Mention conversation with doctor and the dentist tells me he has no idea of my history and with the reactions I describe, and what he can see he isn't prepared to take a chance, I agree. We crack on with part two of root canal and he keeps hitting nerves, I'm given a bit more freeze and we continue. The freeze doesn't seem to help too much so i put up with the pain until whatever implement he's using get's stuck on or near the nerve! I nearly jump out the chair. I start laughing uncontrollably (pain), the dentist starts laughing and the assistant can't help herself either. All three of us laugh for about two minutes unable too stop, completely surreal moment.
Root canal finished, dentist said he can't get access too one of my nerves and he'll see me this Friday to see how I'm getting on.
I'm day three on the antibiotics and every joint in my body won't stop painfully cracking. I'm having to keep my shoulders pinned to my sides as movement from shoulders is causing pain. My hands, wrists and elbows are in excruciating pain (taken me an hour to type this) and my neck has gone too. Lol. Painkillers won't touch this pain. I'm expecting it too start hitting other joints and tendons shortly. Hopefully won't be left with any permanent damage like last time. At least it hasn't thrown my heart rate through the roof or gave me the pressure in my head...yet. The dentist will be glad when he see's me Friday he didn't do the prescribing.
Just to top it off, yesterday I coughed and I think a filling has been disturbed. Nightmare!
Sorry dxg, forgot too say nothing was mentioned of problems down the road regards a bridge.
Hi, how's it all going?During the night of my original post the glands under my chin swelled up and were causing me considerable pain. I couldn't swallow or talk without difficulty or even sleep for that matter. Lowering my chin below level would impress upon the glands and it was a nightmare.
With this and the toothaches I just went to see my dentist first thing. He told me the multiple toothaches I have are probably just referred pain. The glands he says are an infection and I would need a course of antibiotics (my worst nightmare!) and the tooth would have to come out. I told him I wasn't prepared to lose the tooth just like that and what possibly can be done to save it. He said he'd freeze me and have a look, I told him don't take the tooth without my permission as this would lose my ability to chew on the left side.
So he's cracking on and hitting my nerve every so often (jesus!) and I tell him I'll need more freeze. I asked him what's happening then? as by this time I've been in the chair twenty minutes. I suspected root canal and he confirms it. Fifty minutes later I'm out the chair and he says I'll have too come back Monday for the the second part of the root canal.
Before I leave he brings up the antibiotics. I tell him I'm one of the few people that take bad reactions and mention the hobbling and pain he can see was left by my last batch I took. Understandably he doesn't want to prescribe me them and tells me to phone my doctor. I phone the doctor and he's quite irate the dentist wouldn't prescribe them, asks for his name and address of pratice and tells me to tell the dentist when I next see him next the doctor is not happy. Understandably nobody wan't to take responsibility for the reactions I'll probably suffer.
Monday, back for part two of the root canal. Mention conversation with doctor and the dentist tells me he has no idea of my history and with the reactions I describe, and what he can see he isn't prepared to take a chance, I agree. We crack on with part two of root canal and he keeps hitting nerves, I'm given a bit more freeze and we continue. The freeze doesn't seem to help too much so i put up with the pain until whatever implement he's using get's stuck on or near the nerve! I nearly jump out the chair. I start laughing uncontrollably (pain), the dentist starts laughing and the assistant can't help herself either. All three of us laugh for about two minutes unable too stop, completely surreal moment.
Root canal finished, dentist said he can't get access too one of my nerves and he'll see me this Friday to see how I'm getting on.
I'm day three on the antibiotics and every joint in my body won't stop painfully cracking. I'm having to keep my shoulders pinned to my sides as movement from shoulders is causing pain. My hands, wrists and elbows are in excruciating pain (taken me an hour to type this) and my neck has gone too. Lol. Painkillers won't touch this pain. I'm expecting it too start hitting other joints and tendons shortly. Hopefully won't be left with any permanent damage like last time. At least it hasn't thrown my heart rate through the roof or gave me the pressure in my head...yet. The dentist will be glad when he see's me Friday he didn't do the prescribing.
Just to top it off, yesterday I coughed and I think a filling has been disturbed. Nightmare!
Sorry dxg, forgot too say nothing was mentioned of problems down the road regards a bridge.
Edited by markant on Wednesday 11th February 14:32
All the above presents a lot of intertwining facts and information.
By the sound of it you have probably had problems with your teeth on and off for a few year but you also seem to have other health problems and anxiety about all of this.
You mention "inflammation issues". If I was your dentist I would want to understand exactly what this problem is and speak to your GP if necessary.
What are these inflammation issues, do you have an official diagnosis?
Are you taking any medication for anything? You seem very anxious about the idea of taking antibiotics and suggest that you have a bad reaction to them. There are many different types of antibiotic so there's probably one that you don't react badly to or react less severely to.
It's a shame you were not able to continue with the dental hospital as you seem very reassured and happy with your treatment here. Did you cancel the appointment you couldn't attend and did you try to make another appointment in its place?
As far as not wanting to lose teeth, I completely understand this. At the same time there is no point in trying to save the unsavable and you're better off without an unrestorable tooth in your mouth.
You mention you had pain after a filling/fillings. It could well be that the tooth had very deep decay near to the nerve. The dentist is obliged to remove the mushy decayed part to stop it from eating your tooth up. However if the decay is close to the nerve, the filling that he puts in ends up close to the nerve as well and this can irritate the nerve even more and hot and cold things are transmitted directly to the nerve via the filling.
The result can be pain after a filing which needs root canal treatment or extraction.
Sensitivity during scaling is completely normal, even extreme sensitivity, and also depends on how long the tarter has been on your teeth.
If you've ever cut your finger and put a plaster on for three days you'll know that sensitive feeling in the skin when you take the plaster off and the skin is exposed to the outside world for the the first time in three days. It's the same principle with tarter covering your teeth so if you've not had a scale for a while your teeth may well be sensitive for days or even weeks.
Otherwise scaling can just be uncomfortable due to the nerve systems in teeth. There are thousands of little tubes in the neck of teeth at the gum line that go to the nerve. There is a liquid in each tube and when this liquid is disturbed (for example by a dentist cleaning your teeth or sometimes just a toothbrush) is sends a signal to the nerve which feels like an electric shock that you can't help reacting to.
When I have a scale done by a colleague I get this a lot even the point that one or both of my legs fly up in the air a bit to the delight of my colleague of course. Now there's an image for you!
Unfortunately with teeth that have an inflamed nerve it can sometimes be difficult for the anaesthetic to work which may explain why the dentist had trouble getting you numb. I don't think it's because he's bad or rough. I'm sure he would have been stressed by the whole thing too and you may not want to hear this but he would have a had a day full of patients with incredible time pressure on him with other patients in the waiting room. Not ideal but that's the way it is.
So you've got all this stress and worry and pain and all of these different sensations and we have to make some sense out of them all.
-The sensitivity from the scaling is normal.
-The sensitivity from the nerves of decayed teeth needs to be sorted with root canal or extracting the tooth.
-If you've got a dental infection then this needs to be identified and either the correct antibiotic given that you won't react to or the offending tooth extracted.
Finally, I don't know how all this works on a financial level as I haven't worked in the UK for a few years. The reality may be that if you want to save certain teeth and have the best and reliable solution to eat properly, you may have to pay someone to take the time with you as by the sound of it you need a lot of complicated work doing and time is everything from the work itself but also from the point of view of your stress and anxiety in relation to all of this.
I would strongly suggest you return to the dental hospital if at all possible.
I hope this helps a bit, I don't think I've left anything out, if I have I'll add it in later.
Not sure if that's a joke or a comment on my personal ethics. I don't think the OP would find it funny either way.
I came to this thread to offer advice for someone in need, part of which would not include suggesting having any tooth that causes them whatever problem taken out and creating even more fuctional problems for them.
Concerning the point you seemed to be making and in the abscence of a reply, I'll ask you again: Would you have your legs cut off if you had knee problems?
I came to this thread to offer advice for someone in need, part of which would not include suggesting having any tooth that causes them whatever problem taken out and creating even more fuctional problems for them.
Concerning the point you seemed to be making and in the abscence of a reply, I'll ask you again: Would you have your legs cut off if you had knee problems?
Driller said:
Not sure if that's a joke or a comment on my personal ethics. I don't think the OP would find it funny either way.
I came to this thread to offer advice for someone in need, part of which would not include suggesting having any tooth that causes them whatever problem taken out and creating even more fuctional problems for them.
Concerning the point you seemed to be making and in the abscence of a reply, I'll ask you again: Would you have your legs cut off if you had knee problems?
My reply was not a joke but 'light hearted', although you seem to have taken offence at it.I came to this thread to offer advice for someone in need, part of which would not include suggesting having any tooth that causes them whatever problem taken out and creating even more fuctional problems for them.
Concerning the point you seemed to be making and in the abscence of a reply, I'll ask you again: Would you have your legs cut off if you had knee problems?
As to your question, no i would not have my legs cut off due to knee problems, as more often than not, the bone/joint will repair itself (with some expert help) and make a good recovery, however, it is well known fact that once a tooth has begun to cause problems, it will nearly always cause problems in the future, be it near or distant as they are not 'repairable'.
I have over the years sat through many hours in various dentists chairs with none of them being successful in any repairs etc etc.
I have/am living a healthy lifestyle, have check ups every 6 months, brush 2 or 3 times a day but nearly every visit (since about my 30's) there has been work to do.
Granted, at the end of the day it is down to the individuals lifestyle, genetic make up etc, as to how well their teeth will last. My father is in his mid seventies and has all but one of his original teeth. Even his dentist (who hasnt
) has said he has never seen anything like it.Anyway, you have given your opinion on the matter, as have I.
Im sure the OP is big enough to make his own mind up and have conversations with the dentist as to what his options are.
Alucidnation said:
My reply was not a joke but 'light hearted', although you seem to have taken offence at it.
As to your question, no i would not have my legs cut off due to knee problems, as more often than not, the bone/joint will repair itself (with some expert help) and make a good recovery, however, it is well known fact that once a tooth has begun to cause problems, it will nearly always cause problems in the future, be it near or distant as they are not 'repairable'.
I have over the years sat through many hours in various dentists chairs with none of them being successful in any repairs etc etc.
I have/am living a healthy lifestyle, have check ups every 6 months, brush 2 or 3 times a day but nearly every visit (since about my 30's) there has been work to do.
Granted, at the end of the day it is down to the individuals lifestyle, genetic make up etc, as to how well their teeth will last. My father is in his mid seventies and has all but one of his original teeth. Even his dentist (who hasnt) has said he has never seen anything like it.
Anyway, you have given your opinion on the matter, as have I.
Im sure the OP is big enough to make his own mind up and have conversations with the dentist as to what his options are.
I've read a lot of crap in my time on PH but this takes the trophy.As to your question, no i would not have my legs cut off due to knee problems, as more often than not, the bone/joint will repair itself (with some expert help) and make a good recovery, however, it is well known fact that once a tooth has begun to cause problems, it will nearly always cause problems in the future, be it near or distant as they are not 'repairable'.
I have over the years sat through many hours in various dentists chairs with none of them being successful in any repairs etc etc.
I have/am living a healthy lifestyle, have check ups every 6 months, brush 2 or 3 times a day but nearly every visit (since about my 30's) there has been work to do.
Granted, at the end of the day it is down to the individuals lifestyle, genetic make up etc, as to how well their teeth will last. My father is in his mid seventies and has all but one of his original teeth. Even his dentist (who hasnt
) has said he has never seen anything like it.Anyway, you have given your opinion on the matter, as have I.
Im sure the OP is big enough to make his own mind up and have conversations with the dentist as to what his options are.
PS, you can brush as often/long as you like but if you are not doing it correctly you will still have problems. That doesn't mean everyone else will have the same problems as you.
Alucidnation said:
My reply was not a joke but 'light hearted', although you seem to have taken offence at it.
Yes, I did take offence as you seemed to be at least half questioning my ethics, something I don't take lightly, smiley or no smiley.Alucidnation said:
As to your question, no i would not have my legs cut off due to knee problems, as more often than not, the bone/joint will repair itself (with some expert help) and make a good recovery, however, it is well known fact that once a tooth has begun to cause problems, it will nearly always cause problems in the future, be it near or distant as they are not 'repairable'.
Lot's of sweeping statements and generalisation here, none of which is useful in getting to the facts. "More often than not, bone/joint will heal itself" and "it's a well known fact" and "teeth are not repairable". Where exactly are you getting this information from, a friend of a friend? And what is the clinical context of these comments, what kind of problems are you talking about, pathological? auto-immune? trauma induced? iatrogenic?
That last one is a particular classic and one I've not heard of before. Of course teeth are repairable. Repairs have a life span as with any repair and probable life span is taken into account when offering treatment choices. When a restoration reaches the end of its life it is replaced.
There are a multitude of situations where damaged teeth are easily and durably restored, returning the function and aesthetics of the tooth for many years. To extract such teeth in these circumstances would be barbaric and, arguably, assault, certainly negligent.
My father in law has had prosthetic knees placed. These will need to be replaced at some point but according to your logic he should simply have his legs cut off because the prosthetics won't last forever!
Alucidnation said:
I have over the years sat through many hours in various dentists chairs with none of them being successful in any repairs etc etc.
I have/am living a healthy lifestyle, have check ups every 6 months, brush 2 or 3 times a day but nearly every visit (since about my 30's) there has been work to do.
However difficult your personal experience has been, it is just that, personal experience. Thousands of dentists successfully treat thousands of patients every day. However it's a two way street and restored teeth have to be properly taken care of by the patient.I have/am living a healthy lifestyle, have check ups every 6 months, brush 2 or 3 times a day but nearly every visit (since about my 30's) there has been work to do.
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