Best cross training shoes?
Discussion
Hello all, need to bite the bullet and buy some new trainers for the gym.
Now I don't do as much running as i used to, but do a lot of weight training and skipping etc, and no not bloody CROSSFIT!
Anyway, what cross training shoes do you recommend (preferably without a bloody Crossfit name on them!).
Lee
Now I don't do as much running as i used to, but do a lot of weight training and skipping etc, and no not bloody CROSSFIT!
Anyway, what cross training shoes do you recommend (preferably without a bloody Crossfit name on them!).
Lee
Pvapour said:
what's wrong with crossfit? not being provocative, genuinely interested.
My thoughts on its are that its to broad, your basically trying to do everything, use every piece of equipment in the gym, when their is really no need. Jack of all, master of non. Really you should master a few key exercises. That's why the likes of spinning/5x5/running etc are so revered, because they are simple and easy to master.
But each to their own.
I've always liked Adidas cross trainers. They are great for running and most sports (I do stuff like sprinting, tennis and dodgeball, indoors and outdoors so you want grip and to be able to change direction quickly). The problem is that like any training shoe that's made for sports, it's not great for lifting. I use indoor court shoes for strength stuff as they're grippy and have a really firm base.
Make sure that the sole is designed for more than running. You can see that running shoes have a very specific style compared to cross trainers.
Make sure that the sole is designed for more than running. You can see that running shoes have a very specific style compared to cross trainers.
Foliage said:
My thoughts on its are that its to broad, your basically trying to do everything, use every piece of equipment in the gym, when their is really no need. Jack of all, master of non. Really you should master a few key exercises.
I think people underestimate crossfit, and put it down based on a handful of internet meme's/vids- if you stick at it you become pretty good at it, and the movements involved with it. Things may be rushed on occasion, but regular crossfitters are pretty good at Olympic lifting and conditioning stuff- probably more so than a 'regular' gym goer. Also, it's not very often you see a regular gym goer who's mastered anything, so they're less proficient at even being a 'jack of all' than the crossfitters. The Cross fitters at the gym/box by mine all look in good shape- and they train hard- I think it looks fun.LordGrover said:
Shoes suitable for weight training aren't likely to be much cop for running/skipping - one or both will be compromised.
If you can justify it, get some olympic shoes for lifting and use regular trainers for cardio.
Either that or some good old converse shoes.
Well, indeed. But Converses will be sIf you can justify it, get some olympic shoes for lifting and use regular trainers for cardio.
Either that or some good old converse shoes.
t for sports.If your just going to the gym and doing standard exercises, occasional running on the treadmill then I think any trainer will be fine from your local sports shop.
If your doing alot of squats/weight lifting then invest in lifting shoes.
If you going to be hitting the streets and rack up miles running then invest in proper running trainers.
If your doing alot of squats/weight lifting then invest in lifting shoes.
If you going to be hitting the streets and rack up miles running then invest in proper running trainers.
didelydoo said:
Foliage said:
My thoughts on its are that its to broad, your basically trying to do everything, use every piece of equipment in the gym, when their is really no need. Jack of all, master of non. Really you should master a few key exercises.
I think people underestimate crossfit, and put it down based on a handful of internet meme's/vids- if you stick at it you become pretty good at it, and the movements involved with it. Things may be rushed on occasion, but regular crossfitters are pretty good at Olympic lifting and conditioning stuff- probably more so than a 'regular' gym goer. Also, it's not very often you see a regular gym goer who's mastered anything, so they're less proficient at even being a 'jack of all' than the crossfitters. The Cross fitters at the gym/box by mine all look in good shape- and they train hard- I think it looks fun.like Didely i've been training a very long time, mainly bodybuilding but more CV as I've gotten older, concentrating on closing the gap on runners and cyclers now while retaining the mass, CrossFit is where its at for me in these later years.
although past my prime now I shall be aiming for this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5079382/
99% of people on this forum won't be anywhere near these guys, some of us may look as good, some of us have the fitness, some have the strength but all of it? highly doubtful.
I've always believed in not knocking something until you've tried it, after that you're in a 'credible' position to critic.
Pvapour said:
are any top athletes?
does it really matter in terms of following a discipline? doesnt seem to stop people following any other sport.
Apparently the BOC (?) or whoever tests the pee of the olympic sprinters would suggest that theres alot of nattys running sub 10 seconds, so....does it really matter in terms of following a discipline? doesnt seem to stop people following any other sport.
No, i just meant your comment about 99% of us not being even close to froning, yet if your required to go non-natty, how many would want to get close if you know what i mean.
Anyway, cross training shoes, i still recommend inov8's
lemmingjames said:
Apparently the BOC (?) or whoever tests the pee of the olympic sprinters would suggest that theres alot of nattys running sub 10 seconds, so....
No, i just meant your comment about 99% of us not being even close to froning, yet if your required to go non-natty, how many would want to get close if you know what i mean.
Anyway, cross training shoes, i still recommend inov8's
don't believe the pee for a second No, i just meant your comment about 99% of us not being even close to froning, yet if your required to go non-natty, how many would want to get close if you know what i mean.
Anyway, cross training shoes, i still recommend inov8's
see what you mean but he's just a target in the same way the head of any chosen sport is, i know i'll never be as good but i'll get as close as i can with my natural abilities, pretty much the same as BB has been for me for the last 30 years, the fact that ALL top BBs aren't natty hasn't stopped me achieving some great results so what not apply it to another discipline?
tbh though, even if you removed 10% of his performance I still doubt most on here would get even close, some of their stats are incredible, can compete in a triathlon but can still 'press jerk' 100+ KG, pretty impressive to me.
for me i'm just interested in how the body will react to the demands of stamina when already carrying the muscle, i doubt I'll compete tbh (unless there an over 45's category.)
The issue I have with the activities you've mentioned is that they're all too "abstract". Running for the sake of running or lifting for the sake of lifting. It can get a bit nerdy and somewhat tedious. Oh, so you can deadlift 85 tonnes while running 5000 miles in 10 minutes? So what.
Hoofy said:
The issue I have with the activities you've mentioned is that they're all too "abstract". Running for the sake of running or lifting for the sake of lifting. It can get a bit nerdy and somewhat tedious. Oh, so you can deadlift 85 tonnes while running 5000 miles in 10 minutes? So what.
Bit like playing tennis and trying to keep pace with the young'uns. No one cares, but people like the challenge. Everything's abstract if it's not your cup of tea 
didelydoo said:
Hoofy said:
The issue I have with the activities you've mentioned is that they're all too "abstract". Running for the sake of running or lifting for the sake of lifting. It can get a bit nerdy and somewhat tedious. Oh, so you can deadlift 85 tonnes while running 5000 miles in 10 minutes? So what.
Bit like playing tennis and trying to keep pace with the young'uns. No one cares, but people like the challenge. Everything's abstract if it's not your cup of tea Don't get me wrong, though, I spend about 4-5 hours a week doing abstract exercise.
Edit:
I wonder if "abstract" is the wrong word, given your reply. I mean, I don't play tennis against people half my age for the challenge. I just play because I enjoy it, I enjoy learning to improve my technique and because it genuinely puts a smile on my face to play. Sprinting for that impossible ball and returning it pleases me (proving that my fitness level is decent) and being able to run back and forth for a rally without gasping for breath these days also tells me that my fitness levels are good.
People talk about needing discipline:
In this regard, my discipline is on the floor. I don't do it even though I don't want to do it. I do it because I enjoy it.
On the other hand, I don't really enjoy weight work like I do playing sports (not just tennis) and it's 100% discipline that I haven't missed a planned session in about 4 years.
Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 13th October 18:05
Pvapour said:
does it really matter in terms of following a discipline? .
Crossfit itself is not a discipline. It's a mashup of cardiovascular and resistance training. It's a kind of exercise, if you like. Very, very hard to be good at both but Froning has the genetics. Crossfit's appeal is also it's downfall some might say: You're never going to lift your best doing all the cardio and you'll never be your fastest doing all the lifts, but for some training both simultaneously is attractive I guess.Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff